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For the recommendations of things pertinent to this thread, here's a start: Chicagoans: Roscoe Mitchell: LRG/The Maze/SII Examples (Nessa) Roscoe Mitchell: Nonaah (Nessa) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: The Paris Sessions (Pathe) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: A Jackson in Your House/Message to Our Folks (Charly/Actuel) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: Certain Blacks (America) The Art Ensemble of Chicago: 1967-1968 (Nessa), for historical context Muhal Richard Abrams: Young At Heart/Wise in Time (Delmark) Muhal Richard Abrams: LifeA BlineC (Novus) Wadada Leo Smith: The Kabell Years (Tzadik) Marion Brown/Leo Smith: Creative Improvisation Ensemble (Freedom) Anthony Braxton: For Alto (Delmark) Anthony Braxton: New York, Fall 1974 (Arista) Anthony Braxton: Creative Orchestra Music 1976 (Arista) Anthony Braxton: Creative Contstruction Company 1 & 2 (Muse) St. Louis: Julius Hemphill: Dogon A.D. (Mbari) Black Artists' Group: In Paris, Aires 1973 (BAG) Ofamfa: Children of the Sun (Universal Justice) Post-AACM integrationists: Revolutionary Ensemble: Vietnam 1 & 2 (ESP-Disk') Revolutionary Ensemble: The Psyche (Re: Records/Mutable) Sirone: Artistry (Of the Cosmos) Michael Gregory Jackson: Clarity (Bija) incl. L. Smith, O. Lake and D. Murray Barry Altschul: You Can't Name Your Own Tune (Muse) NY Loft Jazz: Frank Lowe: The Flam (Black Saint) w/ L. Smith, J. Bowie, C. Shaw Rashied Ali/Frank Lowe: Duo Exchange (Survival) Rashied Ali: Quintet (Survival), w/ Blood Ulmer, Earl Cross, etc. Noah Howard: Live at the Village Vanguard 1972 (Freedom) Charles Tyler: Voyage From Jericho (Ak-Ba/Bleu Regard) Charles Tyler: Saga of the Outlaws (Nessa) Clifford Thornton: The Gardens of Harlem (JCOA) I skimp a little on St. Louis, as I've not followed the BAG scene as closely as some others here have. There's a lot of Braxton from the '80s on that I haven't heard, but most of the work from the '60s thru the '70s is pertinent to this discussion, and I included a bit of that here. I err on the side of early AEC, for it is my preference. The earlier Delmark AACM titles I mostly left out, as that may be more of a precedent than anything else. There should be more stuff in the recommendations thread.

Hmm. I never really got the feeling that Dolphy came close to his potential as a composer. As a soloist and instrumentalist, well, that is a different story. But then again, I wasn't "there"... just like nobody on this board was "there" for the Great War, I guess.

Assume this is the same UNI label that put out the Big Black/Black Harold duo LP? That one's a MOTHER!

Only about 150 titles to go...

RIP. Have only heard the Riverside, but he seems like an interesting character.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm really enjoying her singing on this tune...

My last girl did the same thing... that is not how I met her, however. And there was no apartment/house across the street.

I'm with you.

I have a German International Polydor of it, with a different cover image. Good record, for $20 or any price.

As long as I don't have to hear David Keenan play saxophones... Tiny Meat Trio, or whatever it is.

OK, so it's a Japanese pressing, but if nobody buys this, I'll eat my hat. Jym Young

I had a Chuck Nessa dream recently. I preferred my Halle Berry dream of last night, though.

I understood that it was "live" in the studio, in front of Fontana people and a few select invitees.

Just pretend you didn't see that extra "zero" and it'll be okay...

Two words: Keith Monks.

Big picture = bad, vs. Big picture = good. Small picture = bad, vs. Small picture = good. Depends on who's painting, and where they dip their brushes. Byron Allen is "pretty good," but I'm glad he was there... Explain, though, E, what you mean by the most crucial innovations of the AACM being intellectual/stylistic/idiomatic. I'm not sure yet whether I'd agree with that as not being equally limiting.

"Academic" or no, Roscoe's a complex guy, and his music demands attention and careful consideration. I make no bones that I'm anywhere even near being in his craw, but I enjoy and respect his music immensely. Even though my experience with the Parker/ECM New Series has been kinda lukewarm - or, rather, my perception of it has - I would like to hear this.

Thanks, Chuck. That's helpful. I have the laminated cover with the drawing, but a white ESPM-1006 disc.

Isn't that what Judd is about? Well, that's for another thread...

Yoshi Wada - Off the Wall - (SAJ orig) Damn fine minimal LP... burning it and trading it to a friend. Kinda sad to see it go, but I am getting hooked up, I hope!

A buddy of mine has some Chris McGregor and Sun Ra 8-tracks, which I think is pretty cool. Also, a few cassettes on America!

Allan, that's hardcore.

I like Mengelberg's tune, "Hypochristmutrefuzz," a lot. It was apparently written to trip up Dolphy, because he wasn't a real circular-breathing type of player.

Was just listening the other day to Positions 3-6-9. Thanks for putting that one out!