clifford_thornton

Apparently, according to the Bill Dixon book. Reference is made to all Cellar concerts, including groups of Bley with Pharaoh in '64.

Thanks for posting these, Mark. I always find myself cranking up the bass on Henry's old ESP's - that thrum is monstrous! Still, I understand Clem's point and also have my own battery of opinions on the whole thing. I'm saving them for the right thread.

The easier way to get it... I go from a different medium, sorry! Speaking of intense Lacy, there's a super-firey Lacy-Potts lineup on Esthilacos (Guilda da Musica, 1971) which I believe is Potts' first recording with the group. Lacy's screaming like a banshee on this one - more slabs than snips, I'd say...

If I had Olio, I would put it with Teddy Charles LPs (I keep Collaboration West in that area, for example). My jazz LPs are organized contextually, for the most part. That can be who's played with whom; by country; by instrumental approach - whatever. Mingus and his regular companions are grouped together. Cecil, Sunny, Lyons and Silva are together. New Haven musicians (and Leo Smith) are together. Paul Flaherty and Louis Armfield are together. European records are by country (as with my ethnic albums), and that's fairly geographically accurate: French --> Swiss --> German --> Belgian --> Dutch , etc. Within country, they're grouped contextually. The rock records are alphabetical by artist and chronological by album, mostly because I don't collect rock or give much of a shit. Same with the few classical records I have.

Barrage is a pretty unique one in his discography, but I think it's a fun jam... Too bad Bley's groups with Giuseppi Logan or Pharoah Sanders weren't recorded!

Kaoru Abe/Sabu Toyozumi - Overhang Party - (Alm-Uranoia original)

He's on other Lacy recordings from the '74-'75 period, including "Flakes," "Dreams" and "Scraps." He's quite good!

have no idea why this kind of trash is allowed on this board or why this pig of a person is allowed to continue posting his filthy rantings. To quote Nessa: "I like Clem. "

Have you heard Nick Hennies or Sandy Ewan's solo material? Worth looking into; definitely more in the "free improv" vein. Tide's in. http://puzzle.suchfun.net/nicholas_hennies/ http://www.surefiredistribution.com/cgi-bi...mp;location=usa Yep, got the Solo Percussion disc and also the Spiderwebs on Jyrk (Ewen-Tom Carter duo). Not so into the comp material, even hers.

I'd like to see this Maupin nugget issued: Ric Colbeck � Unissued Session Unissued Pixie recorded November 23, 1966: Hunter College, New York, NY (possibly October 4, 1966) Colbeck, Ric (tr), Freedman, Joel (cell), Jones, Norris Sirone (ab), Lancaster, Byard (as bcl fl), Maupin, Bennie (ts), Murray, Sunny (drm), Sharrock, Sonny (eg) Bennie told me it was Sunny's band, but who knows... I haven't even seen a bootleg of that circulating, which is surprising considering what IS on the web. Maupin said it was "definitely" recorded, but whether it survived is anybody's guess.

Ond of the first things I thought of, actually. But I don't thiink that it would be weizen's thing... Me too!! Also, College Tour has some nice +trio work with Burton, as well as a duo with Ran and some +quartet with Dave Burrell and Giuseppi Logan.

Marion spoke a lot about her when I talked to him. It seems they were very close. She introduced him to Sonny Rollins, strangely enough (or he forgot meeting Sonny in '65).

Shit, I'd like one of those for MY birthday! Lucky bastid...

Shorter complete takes, I would guess, rather than edited ones.

Just got this one: White Whale - WWI (Merge) And I really like it. Not just because three of the dudes I've known for years, but because they create nuanced, uplifting music with hints of Desert Rock, T-Rex glam and dusky, vicarious storytelling (and some actually great piano playing). Band members are culled from the ranks of Boys' Life, Butterglory, the Get Up Kids and the Higher Burning Fire. It didn't leave my car for four days after Saturday, when I got the disc and saw their gig, on their first tour together. A hip scene, indeed.

I've been curious about that dude as well. Must seek out!

Awesome... Thanks, guys!

Thanks for the clarification. It's an interesting historical document, but not fleshed out enough to be "great" or even that "good." It is of value, though.

I've never seen/heard of anything on "Sue." Strange...

Dixon and Shorter have a completely different aesthetic, IMO. Cherry was at heart a bebopper, a Fats Navarro-styled player and spewer of brittle shards for the "free" generation. Dixon and Shorter were more Miles-esque, Shorter with the lesser chops but a wealth of ideas. Their music moves not at all like Cherry's. Dixon was inspired greatly by contemporary dance, and rhythmically his music operates in a unique area that doesn't appear to be occupied by many others. Dixon was also hugely influential on trumpeters like Joe McPhee and Marc Levin in sound, and their compositional debt to him is huge as well.

Was spinning it last night, and had forgotten how almost funky it gets on side two... now somebody just needs to talk Milford and Cyrille into reissuing the IPS catalog. Those are wonderful dates!

That's why I drink Odwalla instead of Naked! I actually don't know the specific details of the connection - they sponsored some concerts, right? Or was it just the commercial, as Lazaro states?

AK, I'm not sure I'm with ya on this one - I get more promos than I know what to do with (less now that I write less), and only some of these are reviewed at sites like AAJ/Paris Transatlantic/Bagatellen/etc. Most of these are advance, though it's not always the case. The Organissimo board is pretty much the main newsgroup for jazz of all stripes, and it does make some sense to have a few people trumpeting new releases or upcoming ones here. As long as that person is a legitimate member of the newsgroup, it's not really spamming. For me, I think it's been pretty helpful to have this kind of "heads up." And hey, I'm not even that into Andrew Hill OR Nels Cline...

Side 1 is with Burrell and Kapp; Side 2 is with Cowell and Harris. Yeah, Cowell swings on that record, as well as on Why Not?.

So then the Polydor appears to be the way to go. I passed it by at $40 but maybe should nab it next time... not that it's a common variant!