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I'm sure it is excellent.
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According to his son it is true. Posted in the Artists section.
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According to his son, Raheem DeVaughn, the great cellist Abdul Wadud passed on August 10 at 75. I tried to learn his tune "Camille" on the cello many years ago, should've worked harder at it. May he Rest in Peace.
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Can't wait !
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People like modern art; why not modern music?
clifford_thornton replied to gvopedz's topic in Classical Discussion
The idea that you can experience a piece of visual art again and again similarly is pretty untrue in my estimation. Most works of art are seen by very few people in an ideal habitat; for conservation and preservation purposes, being under bright light for years on end, sometimes in less than ideal conditions, is not good for most pieces. More often than not, a viewer only gets one shot at seeing something, much like a piece of music whether it was precomposed or not. I don't really think that looking at a painting or sculpture is a frequently repeatable experience, even if you have unfettered access to a work. There are too many variables at play (and I say this as someone who owns several small pieces of modern or contemporary art and has worked in art museums/arts institutions for over 20 years). -
People like modern art; why not modern music?
clifford_thornton replied to gvopedz's topic in Classical Discussion
I never really thought of visual art as static. It all depends on how you experience it, I guess. -
People like modern art; why not modern music?
clifford_thornton replied to gvopedz's topic in Classical Discussion
depends on the art. Blue chip and well-hyped modern art gets people in the door, but the more difficult and left-field work or that which is difficult to categorize is tougher. Same as the music. -
People like modern art; why not modern music?
clifford_thornton replied to gvopedz's topic in Classical Discussion
Yes, Lacy was. He was close with many postwar artists and writers. When I was in grad school for art history, very few of my fellow grad students had any interest in or appreciation for improvised music (which I was writing about as a component of a true art history). Similarly, a number of creative musicians I've met (especially American) have had zero interest in abstract art. The contemporary composers' world seems a bit more keyed into abstract visual art, and abstract performance art. Boulez is certainly played at massive concert halls in Europe, though he's far less well-known here. Most of the western classical/modern composition situations I attend are pretty left-field, and those people are very knowledgable. If one is attending a pops concert or whatever, I don't think one should expect much modern music to be played, just like I wouldn't expect to see the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra play Tri-Centric Music. Finally, the visual art world is very much a way to move money around and it's a lot harder to funnel cash through weird music. -
yeah, the things Creel Pone reissues generally won't see a proper reissue otherwise. I applaud KFW for doing what he does.
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What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
love that alternate cover. -
Blakey's Groups/Records or Roach's Group/Records
clifford_thornton replied to Rabshakeh's topic in Miscellaneous Music
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Maybe Saudrais as a pinch hitter?
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Cecil Taylor Warsaw 1968 presumably unissued
clifford_thornton replied to cliffpeterson's topic in New Releases
It's excellent. -
Yeah, it's coming out next year as noted above. I know he wanted it reissued and doesn't own a copy himself! I can't imagine paying 500GBP for Orange Fish Tears -- lucked out in a shop bin many years ago -- it's a great record but people are charging too much/paying too much.
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Nice! Pulled an original from the bins in a long-gone East Village record store over 20 years ago and was floored by it. Great record deserving of wider hearing. The Abdul-Hannan is cool but is unlikely to see a proper reissue (it's been tried). I would imagine that the Carroll will get the Soufflé Continu treatment as part of the Palm catalog.
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True, true. As Juma Sultan said to me once, "if I tell you everything then I won't be able to write my own book."
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Nice! Yeah, apparently an hour and a half exists but it's not on YouTube. For what it's worth Tchicai, Thilo, Warren and Favre had a working quartet at that time.
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Location is excellent; the only other Stratas I've been able to find as originals are Sphere and the Bert Myrick, but they're both good.
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Yeah, too short. But good. I have it somewhere (possibly still in storage).
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Rashied Ali (drummer) did play trumpet and in fact studied with Bill Dixon, though I've never heard what he sounded like on that instrument. I do not know if it is the same person on this recording or somebody else.
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Earlier Bley is a different animal -- post-Bud/Hampton Hawes into an Ornette/Cherry-inspired knotty turnaround thing with shades of romanticism and occasional archness, eventually becoming more spare and gnarled but with a crystalline depth as you're hearing on that Hat Hut.
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I really like Dewey but am not a completist -- have the Fontana, BYG, Impulses, Old & New Dreams, Blackwell duo/trio, Dane Belany, ,Galaxy LPs and of course everything with Ornette, JCOA/Liberation Music... that's enough for the time being. agree about Jarrett being a more consistent bandleader but some of those bands are really too consistent for my taste. I recognize his influence & what influenced him but that doesn't mean it interests me to listen to him either.
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as much as I think Cacophonic is a cool label, I wouldn't mind some archival Tusques with Sam Records pressing quality.
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