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Wilson was always my favorite, both solo and accompanist. There's one young guy who seems to have spent all his musicians formative years listening to him--Mark Shane. If you haven't heard him, you should. Particularly how well he plays accompanying others. Cheers.

I'll gladly take the first one---Louis Town Hall concert-unissued part. Confirm how much I should send via PayPal please! I'll send it immediately.

If you want to hear the difference in tonal quality listen to Warren Vache who plays a cornet and someone like Irwin Stokes or Nicholas Payton who play trumpet. Ii can only describe it verbally as the cornet having a less bright, softer sound than trumpet.

Back to BM's meatloaf----I too am a fan. Only thing I can contribute, since I get their meatloaf from a frozen foods section at the local supermarket is that they've just shrunk the size of the meatloaf---used to be 2 meatloafs in a package, now there's just one about one and a half times as thick as either of the two meatloafs. I didn't notice at the time whether there had been a price change, but I'll wager that I'm paying more for less. Tastes the same tho. Has the company fallen into bad economics or is there a new CEO or are they just greedy????Anybody?

I have one recommendation which a lot of younger folks won't be aware of. But then again, the people here frequently surprise me. Try Claude Thornehill. Arrengements by Gil Evans. Very early big band featuring bop influence. Records are available from Amazon,Worlds and lots of others. Cheers.

You're right again--Bogue-Kabibble was a member of the band---trombonist I think.

Here he comes, ape assing along.

That guy is two bubbles away from plumb.

I've been driving a 70 Saab Model 99 for the last 2 years and have just gotten a new mini Cooper. Anyone interested in the Saab??? runs fine, new Kenwood am-fm Cd player. NY area/

One further comment about Bob Wilber's tone on soprano. You guys who hate the soprano should really give Wilber a listen. His tone is completely unlike the nasal quality that some people get into the instrument. ( I say this as someone who gave up playing because of my lousy tone)

Before you guys decide on who has the loveliest tone on soprano, give a listen to Bob Wilber. Then decide.

It's a big band recording, but anyway ----The Sauter Finegan Orchestra used a recorder prominently in one of their numbers: "Azure Te" and a lovely recording it is.

I'm a bit of a troglytite here in that I did more or less pre bop stuff, but not exclusively. I've been lurking about for about a year now, I guess, and I'm puzzled by the almost complete absence of one of bop's pioneers, Diz. There's much praise and veneration of Bird and Coltrane and company, but where is Diz in all this???? do I misread you guys????

COUW----Isn't that guy in your post the famous Le Petomain????

I'm with Shawn here, but I hate that ad more than i can say.Tacky, disgusting, and cheap. As for somebody dubbing Reynolds voice, its a pretty small voice to have been dubbed.She sang in other lesser MGM musicals and it sounded the same to me. But who cares amyway. I do care about their profaning a great movie and a great entertainer with their commercial crap. Try this on for size anyway, VW--I just bought a mini Cooper. Now I'm glad I did. How's them apples.

At the beginning of "Singin in the Rain" there is a hostess introducing the stars attending a movie opening.She introduces one couple with what is some sort of a semi=inside joke. I've been trying to hear it well enough to figure it out for over 50 years. The last great movie musical as far as I'm concerned. The money men at MGM in their infinite wisdom threw away this art.

Could some of you Allen Mavens remind me of the movie in which the following scene occurs?? 5 or 6 guys are carrying another one on a cross horrizontally along a street filled with parked cars. They pass a parking spot and begin to back into it, Another group carrying a different guy on a cross noses into the spot ahead of the backing up group.They drop the guys on the crosses and fight. The product of a weird and inscrutable mind. I don't know what it means, but I love it.

As an old geezer, I too heard Goodman,Dorsey,Shaw,Barnet and the rest of them during the 40's and there was nothing more thrilling in the NY theatres when the band rose with the stage playing their theme. But the greatest performances I remember went to Boyd Raeberns band and Herman's herds. And although the least jazzlike band that was a thrilling musical moment was the Sauter Finegan orchestra. The greatest band moment of real jazz went to an evening in Milwaukee at a dancehall when, on an evening when there was a huge snowstorm and Billy Mays' big band was present. There were maybe 50 or so dancers in a hall big enough for hundreds. The band started the evening playing their book and after a first set,, they gave it up, and played one chorus of a swing number and then we realized that Mays had thrown away the book and the musicians took multi-chorus solos, one after the other. They just jammed without stop and without more than a first and last chorus from their book. The rest of the numbers were all improvisation and the 50 of us there stopped dancing and just stood at the bandstand listening to them all evening long. The musicians really dug just playing jazz and so did we. A memorable evening, not repeated in my lifetime.

books and dust, together and separately

In rereading this thread from the beginning I'm puzzed by a comment of Chuck Ness way back in summer of last year. If you're around, could you please tell me what you find to be racist about Woody Herman's vocals.I'm completely puzzled.

retired Physics Prof. but the sorrow of my life is that I'm a lousy reed man.

Attention FYGGES.MOULDY OR OTHERWISE!! I just got delivery of a passel of cd's burnt from a defunct record company, Fat Cat. The quality is pretty good, but here and there are some scratches, most likely from the original lp's Fr the most part though, the quality is pretty good, and the musicians are superb: Billy Butterfield, PeeWee Erwin, McGarity,Don Ewell, Wild Bill, Ben Webster,Wellstood, Hackett, and more. He also has some live recordings of the Manassas Jazz Fest in the 70's but I haven't yet played them. I got a list from him of the stuff that's available that he's selling for $7.50 a cd plus shipping. You can get it from his email address at cslate3@earthlink.net The cd's are, as I said, mainly in good shape, and I find that he has been most responsible but a bit slow in delivery. Take a look for yourself. I just ordered another batch including one with Butterfield and Warrem Vache that I've been hunting for years.

Attention FYGGES,BOTH MOULDY AND OTHERWISE! I just found a source for jazz artists of the 70's not otherwise available, either OOP or from transcriptions of live concerts. Hackett,Butterfield, Wild Bill, McGarity, Wellstood,Don Ewell and some Manassas Jazz Fest concerts, as well as some Fat Cat Records I've been hunting for years. I got my first shipment of cd's apparently burned from the vinyls. My appraisal of the quality is that they're pretty good in the main, judging by what I've heard of them so far, with occasional scratches depending, I guess, on the state of the original vinyls.But some of the music is terrific, particularly one cd of Don Ewell and Jack Mayheu that has rapidly become one of my favorites. He charges 7.50 Per cd plus shipping. He has a list available on the net and his website is www.cslate3@earthlink.net I've found him to be quite reliable although a bit slow in shipping.

Right on about Chris==he's a valuable member of this site.

I tried chasing that goldwave technique for dowloading and making cd's off internet but it seems to be only for Windows. Anybody know a method of doing the same on a Mac??