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Happy Birthday, Dan!!

Here's a related story that that was prompted by a friend, after he heard about this recording: Did I ever tell you my Wynton story ? ( not that it's much ) When Wynton went on the road with Art I was in high school. Of course, they would hit KK and I went every time, sometimes multiple nights. I played trumpet back then, and although I really was not any good at jazz ( because my teacher was pushing me to go pro legit horn ) , I think I had much more of an appreciation for jazz than most jazz players in high school. I think I "got" jazz from a really early age and I probably should have tried to learn to play seriously Anyways, one night we went with some guys from Berkeley High School who were good players and serious about the music. This was around the time of Craig Handy. A couple of the trumpet players brought their horns. So, we stayed till the end and these trumpet guys were trying to ask Wynton questions as he got off the stage. So a little later he came out and invited us to his hotel room ( he wasn't that much older than us actually, so maybe he felt like he could relate to us ). At the hotel he kind of gave a masters class with the harmon mute on. But here's the thing that struck me : I don't know if you know trumpet literature much, but probably the most famous trumpet studies book is Arbans. Arban was this celebrated cornet player in the mid 19th century who liked to write really tough exercises in the classical or fantasia or popular music style of the day. I still remember hurting my lip over a lot of them. Now, Arbans is great if you are giving a classical masters class, or maybe doing a brass concert in high school. I mean it's technical trumpet stuff, and it's from over a hundred years ago. But what Wynton was doing is he was taking patterns out of etudes and rearranging them a bit harmonically and rhythmically and playing them in his solos. Well I was totally blown away. I started realizing that a some of the really complex fast lines he played were actually out of that book. Man that blew me away. But the other guys there thought it was great, so I of course kept my mouth shut. Now when you're coming up there's nothing wrong with taking material from wherever so you can make it on the stage. But remember that at this time Wynton was being billed as the heir apparent on jazz trumpet. Even as Freddie and Woody were still in their prime. If you listen to Miles in the 40s he was playing technically very simple stuff, but it all had a musical purpose, and it all fit with what came before him, and it built and linked together and told a story. Dizzy, Clifford, Lee .. much more advanced technically at an early age, but still any prowess they amassed was fully steeped in jazz tradition and you could listen to their solos repetitively and amaze at the ideas, and construction, and connectedness, and context, and emotion, and style. But most importantly, these cats had *something to say* and they had to get it out - that was very clear ! And of course it applies equally to Freddie and Woody in the next generation. I don't think Wynton understood that. And I think a lot of players today -- even professional players who are the product of jazz pedagogy in the high schools and colleges across the country -- also don't get it. Anyways, I didn't sour on Wynton because of that, I was still a fan. but some years later when I realized what a charlatan he is, I remembered Arbans, and that's actually how I will always think of him ! Heh ...

This made the whole thread worth reading.

So, the publicist took a fee for only providing a list, with no follow up? He didn't even write the material? There's some value for ya!

In almost the same vein as Mainstream, how about Cameo (or Cameo/Parkway) for a couple of fine Maynard Ferguson albums... Were there other jazz releases on that label?

As a matter of fact, it is! It's a really great recording. Someday, I'll transfer it to cdr. Lew Soloff_trumpet Mike Stern_guitar Charnett Moffett_bass Elvin Jones_drums 1. Yesterdays (J.Kern, O.Harbach) 9:46 2. Barbara (H.Silver) 8:55 3. Beautiful Mimi (L. Soloff) 3:37 4. All Blues (M.Davis) 8:59 5. Thaddeus (L. Soloff) 6:28 6. Little Laura (L. Soloff) 6:00 7. Antigua (R.Prince) 7:21 Total time 51:28 Produced by David Matthews Musical Advisor: Gil Evans Executive Producer: Shigeyuki Kawashima Recording Engineer: Tom Jung; Editting Engineer: Hatsuro Takanami Recorded at Clinton Studio, N.Y., September 15 & 16, 1986

I have this one on Cassette, of all formats:

I believe that Dave Pike lives in the Bay Area.

Nope! But he played with Herbie Mann! Now I have it (I think). It's Dave Pike. By the way, earlier this year a fan of Joe Locke's, who is a senior VP of the company that owns the Empire State Building, to me, Joe, Clarence Penn and some of our families, way above the observation deck you see here. I mean right under the conning tower you see on top, with only a knee high wall separating us from flying off the building. Locke and I were scared shitless! Clarence and the others were fearless, including my daughter who kept leaning over that short wall to take photos!

Perhaps you could share the sites you have sleuthed and your reasoning that this is a case of mistaken identity? Unless the news reports are getting it very badly wrong, the Bill Barton we know was the one arrested in Washington, he was a registered offender, his alleged screen name is the same as the Youtube screen name of someone who likes some pretty niche jazz, and his disappearance matches the time of his arrest. And Chuck has apparently found his mugshot, so it doesn't seem likely that the "mistaken identity" could be on the part of anyone but the authorities. Given that there are over 700,000 registered sex offenders in the US I would think that "let's double-check and make sure we're arresting the right offender by this name" would be rather standard procedure for law enforcement. Is there some reason you have to doubt this beyond "it can't possibly be the Bill Barton we know because he was such a nice guy"? You're reading too much into my brief statement. I'm not saying Bill isn't the guy in the indictment. There's a data base, by State, for registered sex offenders. It's easy to look it up. Here's one of at least two guys named William Barton: Creep

I'm thinking this is a mix up with another William Barton from somewhere in the South. That's what I saw when I did a little internet sleuthing.

Hell, Sonny's off mike for half the recording! No ears.

Some info: January 26, 1972 (to be posted) ‘The Blue Note Show’ Guests: Keyboardist Horace Silver with vocalists Andy and Salome Bey, trumpeter Lee Morgan, flutist Bobbi Humphrey Host: Ellis Haizlip SOUL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB7eL5tXNUI

S. J. Perelman?

I don't know how I recognized Jean Shrimpton, so I looked her up to make sure, and I found this: Hell, I'm not as handsome as I was in my 20's either! This one is better:

I recently had the opportunity to see some photos in the Sony production files that look like the 1961 Miles Davis at Carnegie Hall concert/recording with the Gil Evans Orch and his current quintet of the time. Maybe those are coming out again with some new music and better sound.

I'm actually re-reading Dave Dexter's book "Playback" as of late.

Boy, there's some heavy lifting going on here! I, like others here, only had nice dealing with Bill, may he rest in peace.

Congratulations, Allen!!

Happy Birthday, Mark!!

#178 - Efrem Zimbalist, J?

Annie Ross?

Stevie Nicks

He, for a short while, used to run the gift shop at JALC (it's gone now, I believe). Those items that are signed by Wynton, hung on the walls of that space and are left over from then, hence the signatures. It is a little squirrelly, though.