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On 11/02/2021 at 4:09 PM, HutchFan said:

NP:

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Al Grey / Jimmy Forrest - O.D. (Out 'Dere) (Greyforrest, 1980)
with Don Patterson on organ

The Magnificent Goldberg hipped me to this LP.  It was on one of his lists of Soul Jazz favorites.

 

My copy is signed by Al !

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1 hour ago, jlhoots said:

Is this vinyl only, no CD??

Download available, no CD.  It's worth getting

On 15/02/2021 at 1:32 AM, HutchFan said:

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What did you make of it?

I remember buying and being very excited, not least as it was difficult to get over here at the time and it was a dream line-up for me in my earlier Jazz listening years..  I listened to it again a few months ago for the first time in years and thought it sounded of its time but good of its time

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43 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

What did you make of it?

I remember buying and being very excited, not least as it was difficult to get over here at the time and it was a dream line-up for me in my earlier Jazz listening years..  I listened to it again a few months ago for the first time in years and thought it sounded of its time but good of its time

I like Audio Visualscapes very much.  It is, as you say, "of its time but good of its time." 

Also, I like that DeJohnette was trying to stretch boundaries.  It seems like a lot of jazz -- especially jazz from the 1980s -- observes an unwritten rule that its got to be "acoustic" to be legit.  Perhaps during the 80s this stance was in reaction to the widely-held perception that jazz in the 70s was dominated electric instruments & unswinging fusion. 

Of course, I don't buy that narrative (on many levels) -- and it appears that DeJohnette didn't either.  ;) 

 

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52 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

I like Audio Visualscapes very much.  It is, as you say, "of its time but good of its time." 

Also, I like that DeJohnette was trying to stretch boundaries.  It seems like a lot of jazz -- especially jazz from the 1980s -- observes an unwritten rule that its got to be "acoustic" to be legit.  Perhaps during the 80s this stance was in reaction to the widely-held perception that jazz in the 70s was dominated electric instruments & unswinging fusion. 

Of course, I don't buy that narrative (on many levels) -- and it appears that DeJohnette didn't either.  ;) 

 

Saw the group live about the time that album came out; real good.

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1 hour ago, HutchFan said:

I like Audio Visualscapes very much.  It is, as you say, "of its time but good of its time." 

Also, I like that DeJohnette was trying to stretch boundaries.  It seems like a lot of jazz -- especially jazz from the 1980s -- observes an unwritten rule that its got to be "acoustic" to be legit.  Perhaps during the 80s this stance was in reaction to the widely-held perception that jazz in the 70s was dominated electric instruments & unswinging fusion. 

Of course, I don't buy that narrative (on many levels) -- and it appears that DeJohnette didn't either.  ;) 

 

Just curious... 'Harmolodics" did not make the '70s list. Would "M-Base"   make the '80s list at all?

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Just now, JSngry said:

Just curious... 'Harmolodics" did not make the '70s list. Would "M-Base"   make the '80s list at all?

M-base will definitely be on my 80s list.

Of course, there's a relationship between Harmolodics and M-Base -- but they're also different.  To my ears, M-base seems like an 80s version of Soul Jazz.  It's jazz-meets-popular Black American music of the day.  By the 1980s, that meant Rap and a new sort of angular funk -- but it still seems like M-Base had deep roots in James Brown (just like Rap did and does). 

I've never felt that with Ornette's music -- Dancing in Your Head or Virgin Beauty.  I just don't "get" that stuff.  Not that there isn't something there.  It just doesn't register with me.

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5 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Did you skip Body Meta?

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No, I like that OK.  And I sorta like the Prime Time cuts on In All Languages.  I was just listening to that the other day. 

But it isn't a natural affinity.  I'm missing out on a groove that others can hear.

On the other hand, the M-Base stuff is practically home cookin' in comparison -- even at its most angular and math-nerdy.

 

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Coleman (Steve) worked with Doug Hammond a bunch and I wonder how Doug and that whole scene fit into M-Base. Never really got into the latter for various reasons but the Doug Hammond albums on Idibib (and Tribe) are super. 

10 hours ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

well this just shows you how destoryed an acetate can get this if from 1982 mine is 6 years earlier but look at this one, this is what can happen if not protected, oh man

 

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ooh Lasha acetate, nice! Had many phone conversations with him over the years, and he was/is an amazing person. 

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