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Buddy Rich - Swingin' New Big Band - Pacific Jazz, MONO!!!

Stereo Jack's dollar sticker still in place!

The mono pressings of Pacific Jazz records are nowhere near as shrill as the stereo, similar to United Artists LPs from this period.

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10 hours ago, optatio said:

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Liner Notes by Dr.rer.pol. Dietrich Schulz-Köhn (“Dr.Jazz”) - “a Kenton Fan”. In 1939 he received his PhD from the University of Königsberg (today Kaliningrad). Topic of his dissertation: “Die Schallplatte auf dem Weltmarkt / The record on the world market”, Reher-Verlag: Berlin 1940. He wrote a book about Stan Kenton (Jazz-Bücherei. Pegasus Verlag, Wetzlar 1961).

I met “Dr.Jazz” as pupil in the mid fifties in my home town. He toured with a portable gramophone and shellacs. I remember his recommandation of Glen Gray and the Casa Loma Orchestra. I had already bought a Charlie Parker EP though - see my cover photo!

Interesting comp. Have all that material on Stans own label Creative World. When he started his "Neophonic Thing" he lost me. He sounded best with the Bill Holman arrangements.

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20 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said:

Buddy Rich - Swingin' New Big Band - Pacific Jazz, MONO!!!

Stereo Jack's dollar sticker still in place!

The mono pressings of Pacific Jazz records are nowhere near as shrill as the stereo, similar to United Artists LPs from this period.

That's curious, I just had the opposite impression the other day. I listened to both mono and stereo versions of "Bud Shank & the Sax Section" and found the mono version hotter and more in-your-face. It was easier to hear the voicings of the sax section in stereo - which was a plus on this particular album - but I also found the stereo version softer and overall more pleasant-sounding.

But on this topic, I've found that some Pacific Jazz albums do sound shrill, while others are more balanced. Clare Fischer was usually awarded with good sound.

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9 hours ago, optatio said:

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This album was issued / reissued  on various labels with different  record titles & track compilations.  Soundquality is somewhat inferior

Have these version:

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and

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29 minutes ago, jazzcorner said:

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This album was issued / reissued  on various labels with different  record titles & track compilations.  Soundquality is somewhat inferior

Have these version:

42571091wp.jpg

and

42576279aj.jpg

42576281dw.jpg

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2 hours ago, optatio said:

I regret, no ...

Re Shorty Rogers "July 11, 1953"

Could you pl.  explain that a bit.  ---> 'what means no'  in that matter?

The tracks and dates are the same on your and mine  ('Jam Session') copy ---> see below:

From Lord's discography Shorty Rogers
[R5166-15]
Jazz Superstars: Shorty Rogers And His Big Band: 
Shorty Rogers, Conrad Gozzo, Maynard Ferguson, Don Dennis, Ruben McFall (tp) Bob Enevoldsen (v-tb) Bob Edmondson, Herbie Harper (tb) unknown (tu) Herb Geller (as) Jack Montrose, Bill Perkins (ts) Bill Holman (ts,bar) Lorraine Geller (p) John Simmons (b) Chuck Flores (d) 
Live "Rendezvous Ballroom", Balboa Beach, CA, July 11, 1953
    Sometimes I'm happy    Jam Session JS100, Time Is T19804 [CD]
    How high the moon               -              -
    Short snort [Short stop] (*)               -              -
    Take the "A" train               -
    C jam blues               -              -
    The great lie               -
    Buzzy (*)    
          -              -

Note: "Short snort" as "Short stop" on Scarecrow SC-801, Time Is T19804 [CD], Giant Steps GIST010 [CD].
Jam Session JS100 as by the Jazz Superstars.
Time Is T19804 [CD] titled "Big Band Volume 1".
(*) These 3 titles also on Giant Steps GIST010 [CD].
All titles from Jam Session JS100 also on Straight Ahead Jazz SAJ-1002 (titled "Short Snort"), Scarecrow SC-801, Solid Sender SC-801.
L.A. Jazz Society LAJI004 [CD] titled "An Expression From Rogers:  The Rare And Unissued Shorty Rogers". (members CD's only)

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17 hours ago, Daniel A said:

 

That's curious, I just had the opposite impression the other day. I listened to both mono and stereo versions of "Bud Shank & the Sax Section" and found the mono version hotter and more in-your-face. It was easier to hear the voicings of the sax section in stereo - which was a plus on this particular album - but I also found the stereo version softer and overall more pleasant-sounding.

But on this topic, I've found that some Pacific Jazz albums do sound shrill, while others are more balanced. Clare Fischer was usually awarded with good sound.

I'm sure there are exceptions to what I've encountered - especially if different mastering was used between pressings.  But in my experience, a lot of mid- to late-60s US stereo albums on UA, Pacific Jazz, and a few other labels sound harsh to my ears, shrill highs and not much lower end.  Their mono counterparts - when I have found them - tend to have a fuller sound with more rounded highs and more bass.

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