wesbed Posted June 15, 2004 Report Posted June 15, 2004 (edited) In consideration of the recent couple of weekends with no Organissimo forum and a comment from Mike Ricci (at All About Jazz) saying that b3-er needs better technology to keep the Organissimo board afloat, I wonder what the 'better technology' would be? A faster server? A different host? How much money might it cost? If you look at this bulletin board, http://forums.techguy.org/index-.html, there is a Donate! link in the upper-right corner of the screen. I wonder what it does? I wonder how it works? I'd be willing to donate a few dollars, now and again, to the Organissimo board, if it would help with some 'new technology.' I mean, if I could just press a Donate! link, enter my credit card number, and donate $15 or $20, I would do it. Any ideas? Comments? Edited June 15, 2004 by wesbed Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted June 15, 2004 Report Posted June 15, 2004 Not a bad idea. Look at it this way: instead of purchasing a cd, you donated the money to Organissimo... I would be willing to participate even though I don't have much time to "chat" on this board any more. Paul Quote
RainyDay Posted June 15, 2004 Report Posted June 15, 2004 Isn't b3-er in the process of upgrading the board? I believe the subject of donations has come up before. I would donate. I give to jazz radio. Same thing. Quote
JSngry Posted June 15, 2004 Report Posted June 15, 2004 If Jim wants to take the money, I'll give it. But if he doesn't want to take it, that's cool too. Quote
PHILLYQ Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 For all the pleasure and knowledge I get from this board I'd be happy to donate- just tell me where to send it and it's on the way! Quote
paul secor Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 For all the pleasure and knowledge I get from this board I'd be happy to donate- just tell me where to send it and it's on the way! Well said. As soon as the word is given, my donation is there too. I guess we just have to wait and find out where b-3er stands on this. Quote
Peter Johnson Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 Count me in! I love this place, and it's worth it! Quote
chris olivarez Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 Ricci lives in a glass house so he should definitely not be throwing stones but if Jim could use help all he has to do is say so and I'll help however I can. Quote
JSngry Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 In fairness to Mr. Ricci, his comment was made several outages ago. Since then, he has been nothing but gracious in allowing Organissimo-ites to communicate on his board. Quote
Leeway Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 The last outage made me realize (again) how much I appreciate having this Board, and how much a part of daily life it has become (is that healthy? anyway...). So, donations towards it health and well-being are certainly merited; count me in. Quote
Brad Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 All Jim has to do is say the word and I'm willing to give a couple of C notes. Quote
chris olivarez Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 In fairness to Mr. Ricci, his comment was made several outages ago. Since then, he has been nothing but gracious in allowing Organissimo-ites to communicate on his board. Thanks for the info Jim. Quote
JSngry Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 Hey - fair's fair, and Mr. Ricci has been totally cool ever since that big misunderstanding we had. He's due some props for that, I think. Not sure that Dan would agree, though. Quote
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 I'd be happy to donate too. I wonder if Jim would accept any donations, though - it would make it nearly impossible for him to ban anyone who has donated, wouldn't it... Quote
RDK Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 I'd be more than happy to donate, too, but wasn't the last big outtage due to a storm that affected servers across the entire midwest? I love this site but I ain't donating that much! Quote
wesbed Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Posted June 16, 2004 (edited) Ricci lives in a glass house so he should definitely not be throwing stones but if Jim could use help all he has to do is say so and I'll help however I can. chris olivarez, this post is meant as nothing negative toward you nor anything negative toward Mike Ricci. In defense of my post and my use of Mr. Ricci's name, however -- what Mr. Ricci wrote, in my opinion, was meant only as a positive toward b3-er and the Organissmo board. I used Mike Ricci's name solely because he runs his own site, has had his share of problems, and probably knows better than any of us, due to his experience, what technology is required to run an active website. Maybe Mike Ricci would be an infromative contact to advise as to what kind of technology is needed to make the Organissimo board more stable as it continues to be active and add members? I don't believe it's us against them. Rather, it's us against the world in our attempt to keep the enjoyment of jazz discussion and unrestricted discussion, in general, alive. I've spent many-an-evening browsing and posting at the Organissimo site. How many other 'good' jazz discussion boards are there? The answer: not many. I know, from viewing other internet bulletin boards, that sites such as Tech Support Guy and Free Republic are taking donations from members to invest back into the necessary technology. I missed the hell out of the Organissimo board while it was down. I don't know how the donation thing works but I'm willing to donate X amount of dollars, as my willingness permits, to keep Organissimo functioning efficiently. I don't know how it's done. If Mike Ricci says there is better technology available, then I believe him. I know his internet knowledge is greater than mine. I'm thinking that Mosaic Records might want to donate some funds to this board. The Organissimo board has sold enough of Mosaic's product. Mosaic could donate some funds and b3-er could add a Mosaic logo and link to his front page. Edited June 16, 2004 by wesbed Quote
EKE BBB Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 If Jim acceps a donation, I´ll be there! Quote
tjobbe Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 a donation should not be a problem... money -> fine, some spare HArddisk B) -> I have some Depends on you Jim ! Cheers, Tjobbe Quote
mikeweil Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 I could need some donation myself , but for Organissimo, I'd give some bucks anytime! Quote
wesbed Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Posted June 16, 2004 I'd be happy to donate too.I wonder if Jim would accept any donations, though - it would make it nearly impossible for him to ban anyone who has donated, wouldn't it... Any donation would be completely voluntary. If person, voluntarily, makes a donation then, voluntarily, acts like an asshole, the board administrator would have the same ability, as now, to ban regardless of the voluntary donation of the given user. It could be argued that, in an extreme case, a given user could be donating enough money to the board so as to influence the board administrator's decision to ban. If this happened, it would still be at the complete discretion of the board administrator to ban the given user. Is that user's monetary contribution a fair trade for the user's actions that could, potentially, wreck the board? On the other hand and more realistically, in my opinion, any member who has voluntarily donated funds, whether said funds be large or small, is donating the funds in trade for a service. It makes no sense that a donor would choose to pay his money in hopes of learning that the service has become unavailable to him or that the service has become damaged as a result of his actions. Quote
EKE BBB Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 Your post makes a lot of sense to me, wesbed. The administrator will have the ultimate decission to ban any asshole causing trouble. Quote
Use3D Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 We have a nice server and a nice administrator who fixes our problems reletively quickly. These kind of issues don't happen often enough for us to consider moving the board. At least b3-er and I haven't discussed that. Quote
Dan Gould Posted June 16, 2004 Report Posted June 16, 2004 Considering that Ricci had a near-catastrophic failure and massive loss of data due to a failed backup system, it takes some chutzpah to talk about our supposed technological shortcomings. As Use says, they've got nice servers and a responsive tech guy. What else is needed? We were down for a time due to an act of God-the Michigan storms, and now again with a SQL error. BFD. If crashes become a common occurence, then I'd be all for a financial donation to upgrade. But it hardly seems necessary now. Quote
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