John L Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 So,,,,,,,,I guess this means I'll be getting MUCH more respect around here. That will happen when Bird and Diz and Town Hall finally sees the light of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 So,,,,,,,,I guess this means I'll be getting MUCH more respect around here. That will happen when Bird and Diz and Town Hall finally sees the light of day. oh yes, can you add this to my order? or shall I keep from ordering till you have that one out... seriously: I ordered the Marsh, better yesterday than today, but still better today than tomorrow, righty right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 CONGRATULATIONS CHUCK! A well deserved accolade for a great album ... and it sounds even better than the LP did! I am sending you a box of "Afternoon Tea" for you to use in your celebration .. it calms the nerves... Garth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 To think that we knew Chuck before the millions, the feted soirees in Manhattan, the lavish trips to Las Vegas, the fifteen-foot-high security fence, the third home on Mackinac Island, the multi-CD "concept" records, the Trump-ish hirings and firings, the governorship and the biopic, the decision to invade Wisconsin... Nah, we invade Ohio first (red state) so I can watch our friend Conn/Paul squirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 Good to hear--the disc deserves all the press it gets. It's actually the only disc I included in my "reissues" list for Cadence--everything else that would have gone in got excluded by the journal's strict criteria . Otherwise I certainly would have added Andrew Hill's Black Fire & probably some of the reissues on Hatology (notably the Giuffre concerts from Germany). Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this recognition results in enough sales to get us some more cd reissues in 2005. I'd love to be able to buy copies of Wadada Leo Smith's Spirit Catcher, Roscoe Mitchell's Nonaah and Charles Tyler's Saga of the Outlaws on cd. Edited December 21, 2004 by John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 So,,,,,,,,I guess this means I'll be getting MUCH more respect around here. I was afraid you might think this. Congrats to you and the late great Mr. Marsh for a wonderful recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz4u Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 That's awesome. Way to go dad, and way to go Chuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 So,,,,,,,,I guess this means I'll be getting MUCH more respect around here. I promise that we'll at least double the amount of respect we give you! But in all seriousness, congrats! That was a very nice release... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryan Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 That's great, Chuck. Thanks for putting stuff like that out. SNURDY... really opened my ears and so did ALL MUSIC. I need to get the Von Freeman discs. That'll be my after-XMAS gift to myself. Be prepared for another dreaded Canadian order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Good to hear--the disc deserves all the press it gets. It's actually the only disc I included in my "reissues" list for Cadence--everything else that would have gone in got excluded by the journal's strict criteria . Oh man, somebody please explain this in detail. It's been ages since I've subscribed to Cadence, and I don't remember what their voting limitations were/are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryan Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 RT - It has to do with when the disc was issued (dates, etc.). It's not really that "strict", but there are limitations. You should really subscribe again, it's a great little magazine. Far better than Downbeat or Jazztimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 The limitations for just plain old readers' participation in the polls aren't all that strict. But for reviewers submitting top-tens you're only allowed to list things reviewed in Cadence from December of the previous year to November of the present year. This becomes a real problem for reissues because, e.g., Cadence doesn't usually get review copies of reissues from RVG/Blue Note, Columbia or Verve, for starters. Because of the limitation to the reissues covered in the mag, basically one has the choice of the Chronological Classics, Fresh Sound, Mosaic, Hatology & a few other labels. Plus Nessa, fortunately! It's a quirky mag but, yes, it's far better than the glossies A good run of interviews lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Just getting around to posting after being on vacation for the past 10 days.....Congrats Chuck! I really enjoyed this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 That's awesome. Way to go dad, and way to go Chuck! I just noticed this. Is Warne Marsh your father? COOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz4u Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I'm the youngest of my father's two sons. My name's Jason, and thanks. Any questions? fire away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 this is one GREAT cd!! if you haven't got your copy yet call Mr. NESSA (uncle chuck) ASAP!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Wow, no one took up Jason's offer for any questions about Warne Marsh? I don't know enough yet to pose any interesting question, so.. Chuck, do you still have this for sale? (And what else do you have these days? I already have the Bird/Diz and Mingus on Uptown, but what's the current Nessa catalogue? Or shall I PM you?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Wow, no one took up Jason's offer for any questions about Warne Marsh? There was this thread Warne Marsh but it took a wrong turn and went off the road... By the way, I STILL WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE ARIC BACK HERE!!! Edited October 5, 2005 by brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 By the way, I STILL WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE ARIC BACK HERE!!! ← Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fent99 Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Got this from Chuck in the summer and its a fine session. Only one Award... Shoulda been a Grammy but I imagine that Chuck and his design team couldn't design naff enough packaging! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz4u Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 10 months later, Im still open to questions. BTW there is a new Lennie Tristano book out that dispells the myths about him. It's written by Peter Inn. Check out dad's sight for the info. www.warmemarsh.info Jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 10 months later, Im still open to questions. BTW there is a new Lennie Tristano book out that dispells the myths about him. It's written by Peter Inn. Check out dad's sight for the info. www.warmemarsh.info Jp ← The book was written by bass player/record label owner/etc. Peter Ind, not Inn. It's available from Amazon.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 10 months later, Im still open to questions. BTW there is a new Lennie Tristano book out that dispells the myths about him. It's written by Peter Inn. Check out dad's sight for the info. www.warmemarsh.info Jp ← The book was written by bass player/record label owner/etc. Peter Ind, not Inn. It's available from Amazon.com. ← Here's Peter Ind's website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Here's an e-mail I sent the other day to Eunmi Shim, whose Ph.D. on Tristano is in the procves of being published as a trade book by the U. of Michigan Press: Just read the Peter Ind book, which is very interesting, as you might expect, but marred IMO by intimations that Ind could be a bit hare-brained in some regards -- he was, as were some others in Tristano's circle, and still is a great admirer of Wilhelm Reich (he of the orgone box), and Ind cryptically states that like Reich (or so Reich claimed) he can (among other things) use Reichian principles or techniques to influence the weather with his mind (especially useful, I suppose, if one lives in Great Britain part of the time, as Ind does); Ind also is enamored of the crackpot theories of Immanuel Velikovsky (author of "When Worlds Collide"). I think you would find Ind's account of "Turkish Mambo" to be of particular interest; he says that the piece has "no orthodox time signature at all," that "the metronome beating quarter-note rhythm is merely the co-ordinator" and "you can choose according to what rhythm you hear as predominant and what kind of time signature you accept. If you regard the metronome as beating quarter notes, the other superimposed rhythms are all based on eighth notes. The rhythms are introduced one at a time, the first being a continuous phrase of seven eighth notes. Because these repeated phrases are set over the steady metronome beat of quarter notes, the do not convey a primary time signature of seven but only a subsidiary time rolling over the quarter note metronome beat. then a new rhythm is introduced, that of a 5/8 phrase. Once this is established, a third rhythm is added -- this is of a twelve eighth-note phrase. As jazzmen relate easiest to a 4/4 rhythm, it is usually heard by them as though the metronome is beating 4/4 time. But hearing it this way is arbitrary. What is not arbitrary are the eighth-note phrases set over or against a steady quarter-note metronome. But this still does not mandate a time signature, as we know it. The final addition of a bluesy-type right hand improvisation does give a final indication of 4/4 time, but this is just implied by the kind of phrases played by Lennie.... If we take the arbitrary 4/4 as a basic time signature, exact repetition of the interlocking phrases occurs only after 105 bars." My God. I wish the book had been dealt with by a decent editor and proofreader -- lots of nagging typos and some odd assertions. For instance, here's a two-for-one shot. Writing of Nesuhi Ertegun's (of Atlantic Records) relationship with Tristano, Ind writes: "By the late fifties Nesuhi's enthusiasm for Lennie's music had waned, and he was then involved with more commercial aspects of jazz, such as the music of Ray Charles, Chris Connors [sic], and Charles Mingus." Yeah -- Mingus, that old chart-topper. On the whole, though, it's a very worthwhile book for anyone who is interested in Tristano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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