tranemonk Posted March 11, 2005 Report Posted March 11, 2005 I'm almost through Disc 1 and am thoroughly enjoying it... I will say that I think Ron Carter's bass playing is the key to the 1st set.... Holding it all together... I'm trying not to read too much on this thread to pre-dispose me... Quote
tranemonk Posted March 11, 2005 Report Posted March 11, 2005 okay I'm about halfway through disc 3... and I have to admit I did glance at some of the earlier posts... At first listen.... very UNEVEN!!!!!!!!! some tracks exquisitely composed/melodic and some ALL OVER THE PLACE.... I try not to be too pre-disposed to so called "free jazz" but I find the moments of "free jazz" in this set - very poor.... I must say I'm a bit disappointed... Kinda makes me understand why they initially released "the best material".... Very, very uneven.... Now I have to back and read you people's arguments.... Quote
sidewinder Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 (edited) I've just got through repeated spins of disk 1 and a spin of disk 2 and already the verdict is a big thumbs up. Release of the year so far, for me. Big impression of disk 1 is just how funky it is. Reminds me quite a bit of 'Grass Roots', same sort of groove. A bit ragged in spots but overall - excelent. Some very catchy tunes too, level of composition very high. Big suprise hearing Andrew on organ on CD 2. Immediate connections for me with the sound of Sun Ra but yes, definitely also a hint of Larry Young. The Kermit Moore string quartet material I knew from the vinyl double but 'Illusion' sounds absolutely beautiful. Malcolm Addey has done a great job with the mastering. Five Stars ! Edited April 3, 2005 by sidewinder Quote
John Tapscott Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 Just got my set on Friday and have listened to it all the way through. Sidewinder pretty much nails it. Great compositions & good sound. Beyond essential for Hill fans. 5 stars or close for Discs 1&2; I'm a little less impressed with Disc 3 on first listen, but it has its moments too, especially Woody Shaw and Hill's crazy organ sounds! Love that. But the "Chained" session from Disc 2 is my favorite from first impressions. Ron Carter was a monster in this days (on both Discs 1&2). Dig Teddy Robinson too, and Bennie Maupin. Very strong. Quote
sidewinder Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 I know its been said before but I find it incredible that material this strong was kept in the can for this long. Thank goodness this set was put out, with such great attention to detail, packaging/notes and sound. Quote
Jim Dye Posted June 14, 2005 Report Posted June 14, 2005 (edited) I did a search here, but couldn't find anything. Is Cascade from Passing Ships the same composition as Without Malice from the Mosaic Select? They have the same head. Cascade is a little slower, but they sound like the same tune to these ears. Edited June 14, 2005 by Jim Dye Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted June 14, 2005 Author Report Posted June 14, 2005 Is Cascade from Passing Ships the same composition as Without Malice from the Mosaic Select? They have the same head. Cascade is a little slower, but they sound like the same tune to these ears. ← Yup, same tune. Not sure that I was the first to notice, but I was the first to post about it --- HERE and HERE. Great tune!! Quote
Jim Dye Posted June 14, 2005 Report Posted June 14, 2005 I knew that I couldn't have been the first one to catch that! I guess my searching skills leave something to be desired. Thanks Tom! Quote
David Ayers Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 So remind me - did the other stuff from One to One make it on to CD outside the Mosaic? I admit, I've lost track. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted June 16, 2005 Report Posted June 16, 2005 The 1965 session first issued on One For One was in the "big" Mosaic box. The later parts of One For One came out on the Mosaic Select set. See the Andrew Hill discography on my website for full details. Mike Quote
Soul Stream Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Just got this in the mail today....only just put it on. But right off the bat...it's hot. Diddy Wah is just as funky in the most non-chiche' way as music could be. Hill's world is a speacial one that's always an ear and mind-opender. This is sure to be one of the all-time great Mosaics. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 I'm too lazy to goof around and figure this out - do I need this box if I have all the Hill BNs as they were available on LP? I've got all the 4000 series Hills, Dance With Death, the two-fers and Passing Ships. Thanks! Quote
bertrand Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Short answer: most of this material, save a few tracks, has never ever ever ever been issued in any shape or form before, be it LP, CD, SACD, cassette or 8-track. Bertrand. Quote
JSngry Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 All the material was issued in a set of Taiwanese-only 3 3/4 ips reel-to-reel albums between 1971 & 1973. So if you've got that series (and most serious collectors do), you're covered unless the improved sound quality of Space Age Digital Remastering is of any concern to you. I've also heard rumors of an Argentine-only 16 2/3 RPM box set from 1974, but rumors are all they are. Quote
David Ayers Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 The 1965 session first issued on One For One was in the "big" Mosaic box. The later parts of One For One came out on the Mosaic Select set. See the Andrew Hill discography on my website for full details. Mike ← Thanks Mike! All the material was issued in a set of Taiwanese-only 3 3/4 ips reel-to-reel albums between 1971 & 1973. So if you've got that series (and most serious collectors do), you're covered unless the improved sound quality of Space Age Digital Remastering is of any concern to you. I've also heard rumors of an Argentine-only 16 2/3 RPM box set from 1974, but rumors are all they are. ← Don't forget the Be Your Own Andrew Hill (BN period) kit issued by John Cage Productions. It included a self assembly piano stool and a cracked fish tank full of broken biscuits. It sounded great in quadrophonic sound but doesn't rechannel well into a 5.1 system (I realise not everyone has 5.1 but I don't want anyone to sink a bucket of $$$ on ebay to get this set and be disappointed with the sound...). Quote
Stefan Wood Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Fischer Price also had a VERY limited edition of the material listed in the Mosaic Select, for their short lived "My First Reel to Reel Player," decked out in candy red and yellow. Complaints from parents and lack of knowledge (and responsibility) of how to use the machine led it to being pulled from the shelves after a few months. These suckers run for 4 figures on ebay, and let's not even talk about the music issued for this format! Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 That's the machine that played that bubble gum "tape" right? Some of the kids I teach still have that stuff (1/2") but they are astonished to learn that it used to be used to record music. Mike Quote
Ron S Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Fischer Price also had a VERY limited edition of the material listed in the Mosaic Select, for their short lived "My First Reel to Reel Player," decked out in candy red and yellow. Complaints from parents and lack of knowledge (and responsibility) of how to use the machine led it to being pulled from the shelves after a few months. These suckers run for 4 figures on ebay, and let's not even talk about the music issued for this format! ← I'm lucky enough to have in my possession the original "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" issued in this format, along with the accompanying Iron Butterfly coloring book. Don't even THINK about making me an offer. Quote
jazzbo Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Man oh man, I bet that is the perfect way to listen to Slim Gaillard! Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Even better for the 1910 Fruitgum Company. Mike Quote
Ron S Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Even better for the 1910 Fruitgum Company. Especially the session they did with Black Sabbath. Quote
JSngry Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Yeah, everybody digs The 1910 Fruitgum Company & The Ohio Express, but anybody who knows anything about anything knows that the REAL action was with The Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus. Quote
rostasi Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Yeah, everybody digs The 1910 Fruitgum Company & The Ohio Express, but anybody who knows anything about anything knows that the REAL action was with The Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus. ← Wow! hadn't heard that name in ages! So, which version of Simon Says rates? 1910 or the K-K version? --- Now playing: Mahmoud Ahmed - Alémyé Quote
rostasi Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 If you have to ask... ← aaaaaaaahh, OK, yes! well, they were one and the same really! --- Now playing: Jackie McLean - Conversion Point Quote
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