keberobeats88 Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 (edited) Why the hell is it so good?!?!? The album flows like a river. The expression coming from every musician on here is almost too much to comprehend. I get these images of just absolute no-holds-barrededness, where every little whim and thought is forced out of an instrument into this giant, pulsating mass. Elvin Jones' brilliant comping on Part 1 alone takes the entire song to a whole new level. It is what jazz drumming should ideally be, in my mind; the big, engulfing, and accenting backbeat to more than just the song but the entire atmosphere and message. McCoy Tyner also gets 3 big thumbs up. The way he holds on to everything and is totally in there with every little thing that Trane did on his solos, you can just hear how he progressed throughout the whole album, getting into the right mindset, and settling in. Anyway I thought I'd make a topic to blow a load or two about it. Feel free to hate! EDIT: I totally meant to put this in "Artists." Edited July 24, 2005 by keberobeats88 Quote
jazzbo Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 But you left out mentioning Garrison, who actually is (I feel) the ANCHOR to it all. . . . It's an amazing work, a milestone, a landmark, a definitive document of Coltrane's intentions and musical hopes at that time. It seems created with little concern for commercialism and it turns out to be one of the most commercially successful jazz albums ever. If only that were something happening with frequency! Quote
sheldonm Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 Feel free to hate! ...you probably won't find too many folks here who hate this recording! m- Quote
Guy Berger Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 Anybody want to take up the "A Love Supreme is overrated" claim? Guy Quote
JSngry Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 Overrated, no? But its deserved cannonization has blocked out some equally profound work by the same band from general public awareness, work which I return to more than ALS. not the least of which is Crescent. Quote
vibes Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 But its...cannonization has blocked out some equally profound work by the same band from general public awareness, work which I return to more than ALS. not the least of which is Crescent. ← I feel it is a little overrated, but I totally agree with the second statement. I listen to this band's other albums way more than ALS. That's not to say, however, that ALS isn't very enjoyable. Quote
GregK Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 Not overrated at all. I never get tired of it. Perfect length suite for Coltrane's statement. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 (edited) Overrated is something that is getting more recognition than it deserves right? Well, for jazz fans, this album does get the recognition it deserves. As for the general audience, I'd be suprised if any of them knew what ALS was. Edited July 24, 2005 by Jazz Kat Quote
SEK Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 As for the general audience, I'd be suprised if any of them knew what ALS was. Lou Gehrigs disease? Seriously, I don't think that "A Love Supreme" is overrated, but, as Jim Sangrey implied, 'tis a pity when its well-deserved status keeps folks from appreciating other valuable works by that quartet. I think that "First Impressions"and "Crescent", for example, rank right up there. Quote
7/4 Posted July 24, 2005 Report Posted July 24, 2005 As for the general audience, I'd be suprised if any of them knew what ALS was. Lou Gehrigs disease? Seriously, I don't think that "A Love Supreme" is overrated, but, as Jim Sangrey implied, 'tis a pity when its well-deserved status keeps folks from appreciating other valuable works by that quartet. I think that "First Impressions"and "Crescent", for example, rank right up there. ← Are you thinking of First Meditations? I love all that late period Coltrane. ALS is the gateway drug. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 I'm afraid of the "masterpiece" label given to a number of recordings. ALS and KOB are great records praised beyond their siblings in comparison with a bunch of stuff "nobody" knows. It is the news/promotion game and we may like some of it but it is still "fluff". Can't wait to discover the next book by Ashley to discover what to bow down to next. Can't wait 'til he decides on the Cecil Taylor recording to exploit. Quote
Noj Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 (edited) I listen to ALS very rarely, and like other Coltrane albums much more. On the rare occasion that I actually listen to ALS, I do enjoy it. It just isn't my favorite. KOB is fantastic, and is definitely one of my favorite Miles Davis albums. Edited July 25, 2005 by Noj Quote
Jazz Kat Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 I think the last time I listened to KOB was about 10 years ago. Quote
Noj Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 Damn, I can't remember what I listened to at 6 years old. It certainly wasn't jazz, consider yourself lucky! Maybe I'll give ALS a spin this evening, it's been a while. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 I think the last time I listened to KOB was about 10 years ago. ← Don't think you did much more than wet yourself 10 years ago. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 Can't wait 'til he decides on the Cecil Taylor recording to exploit. Sorry, you misheard - Creed Taylor, not Cecil. Mike Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 After the KOB book I received a call from Ashley Kahn telling me he was doing the "Love Supreme" book and he had a couple of questions for me (since I'd actually heard Coltrane in person ). I said "Of course you are". Months later when I had the opportunity to shake his hand, he hesitated and went away. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 I think the last time I listened to KOB was about 10 years ago. ← Don't think you did much more than wet yourself 10 years ago. ← Oh I did much more than that Chucky! I started friken playing piano from inside my mother. I guess you could say I was -6 weeks old when I started playing.. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 I think the last time I listened to KOB was about 10 years ago. ← Don't think you did much more than wet yourself 10 years ago. ← You goin' back on diapers yet? Quote
7/4 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Posted July 25, 2005 I think the last time I listened to KOB was about 10 years ago. ← Don't think you did much more than wet yourself 10 years ago. ← Oh I did much more than that Chucky! I started friken playing piano from inside my mother. I guess you could say I was -6 weeks old when I started playing.. ← I don't wanna know how you reached the keyboard. Quote
7/4 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Posted July 26, 2005 Musta been one weird-ass placenta... ← Maybe he has very long arms or... Quote
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