Roundsound Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 My favs of the sets: 1. Gil Evans 2. 2d Quintet starting with ESP 3. Interim group (George Coleman etc) 4. Coltrane set 5. Prestige set 6. Blackhawk live 7. In a Silent Way 8. Jack Johnson 9. Bitches Brew I know I prefer the acoustic stuff but how do you feel about the Electric set order of preference. By the way, I love them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md655321 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 (edited) 1. Second Quintet 2. Coltrane 3. Prestige (dont have the box, just the material) 4. Plugged Nickel 5. BB 6. Jack Johnson 7. IASW 8. Gil Evans (no box, but the single cds w/ alternates) 9. Seven Steps 10. Blackhawk (just not in the same league) hard to rank though. The Jack Johnson album from the box is enough to put it 2nd or third, but the box as a whole isnt as great. When cellar door is released, itll probably number 5 or 6. Looking at that, seven steps seems way to low. But again, as a whole its not amazing. But the set with sam rivers is fantastic. Edited September 15, 2005 by md655321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 depends on my mood, or the day. I like them all pretty much equally, probably listen to the Gil Evans one the least, but I still like it a lot, I just dont have that much time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I only have two of the boxes, Plugged Nickel and IaSW -- otherwise I've gone for individual albums. As far as the music, I have a heavy bias toward the 2nd quintet material live and solo. The Gil Evans collaborations, along with the '50-'53 recordings for Prestige and other labels, are my least favorite Miles. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Looking at that, seven steps seems way to low. But again, as a whole its not amazing. But the set with sam rivers is fantastic. ← The "MD in Europe" and "Four & More" sets AREN'T amazing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md655321 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 No, they are fantastic as well. But the studio Seven Steps stuff is just ok (in relative terms of course) and the Berlin stuff doesnt quite blow me away. Maybe I just knew what was to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Cellar Door! or maybe Gil Evans! or the Second Quintet! or the Coltrane! Those are at least the top four for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Second Quintet takes the top spot for me by far. The greatest jazz I've ever heard! This is followed by the Miles/Trane & Plugged Nickel. All of em are great, really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 All I know is that I've never really liked or gotten into Plugged Nickel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I've only got three of the box sets, but have most of the others on individual discs. Of the three sets, I rank Plugged Nickel as my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Jack Johnson is my least favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I've thought long and hard about this question and I've decided it's... Whichever one I'm listening to! -_- Push comes to shove, the Sixties quintet box probably wins for sheer listenability... I can put on one disc after the other and never tire of hearing that music. But all of them have given me countless hours of good listening. Although (as I've said before on another thread) I felt the Bitches Brew box was a little botched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdogus Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 (edited) Of the actual boxes I have, considering the aggregate of music, programming, and packaging, ... 1. Quintet 65-68 2. Seven Steps 3. Plugged Nickel 4. Blackhawk Friday and Saturday 5. Bitches Brew Love the Prestige material, which I own as individual albums. I'd like to own the other Columbia boxes (esp. the Coltrane and Gil Evans) if I could get the metal spine versions - and if I felt I could afford them. In a Silent Way, yeah...I'm lukewarm on the Jack Johnson matrial, to be honest... Anyone know if yourmusic.com is still shipping the metal spine versions of these? Edited September 16, 2005 by gdogus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Difficult but I suppose I must, when Push comes to shove, say the second quintet, followed by Nickel, and 7 steps. They are all wonderful of course (only have the Prestige as individual albums, but I seem to play them more and more frquently as I get older, and Bitches doesnt leave the shelf as often as it did...) Really looking forward however to the Celler Door not to mention the Antibes material!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 As most of the others I don't have an absolute favorite. 7 steps is the one I listen a lot lately. I'm allowed to listen to Gil/Miles and Silent way when my wife is around - the electric period is not permitted at all! So, it's more a question of mood, ... and trouble! -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob C Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I'd probably have to go with: In a Silent Way 2d Quintet 65-68 Plugged Nickel Jack Johnson Miles/Gil Seven Steps Bitches Brew I just got Seven Steps a couple of weeks ago and am enjoying it quite a bit more than I expected, so it may move up in the rankings. Jack Johnson is another one that I like a lot more than I thought I would--I was worried it would seem too repeptitive, but there's so much great music on there that the repetition doesn't bother me (and I guess the same can be said of the Plugged Nickel and Seven Steps boxes, for that matter). I don't have the Coltrane box but I do have most of the original records--it would probably fall somewhere in the middle, if I owned it. CANNOT WAIT for the Cellar Door box. Based on how much I love Live/Evil, it will probably come in somewhere near the top! Whatever the rankings, if I could never listen to any music other than these boxes again, I would still be a pretty happy man. Overall, this body of work is my favorite in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little High People Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 1. Cellar Door (just cuz it's "the great white whale!") 2. Silent Way 3. Jack Johnson 4. Miles & Trane 5. Bitches Brew 6. 60's Quintet 7. Miles & Gil (still need to listen to this one more!) 8. Blackhawk (ditto) 9. Plugged Nickel (ditto) 10. 7 Steps (ditto) Jeezis, there's 10 of them? don't think i'd realized that ... i've only heard the first three discs of the montreux box. that 73 show is killin'! and the sound is excellent ... much better than in concert or dark magus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 ... and the Berlin stuff doesnt quite blow me away. Maybe I just knew what was to come. ← Now that's just *plain* wrong, Sir! (sorry! ) That Berlin set is terrific, in my opinion! Beautiful acoustics, Miles in top form, the quintet in a rather quiet and explorative mood... and again: the sound: you could hear a feather drop on the floor on that recording! How I would rank the boxes I don't know. I think the acoustic ones would be on top, not because I dislike the electric stuff, but... then the JJ was a huge surprise, and I loved it, much because of its simplicity and clean-ness (as opposed to the collages and soundscapes of IaSW and BB). I love the Gil Evans box, the second quintet, the Plugged Nickel... the Coltrane of course (but I knew that stuff well before the box was out, so somehow I still don't really consider that great music part of the box... rather I think in particular sessions and albums). The 7 Steps I have but haven't made my way all through yet. True, the opening studio dates are not up to what was to come, but hey... Victor Feldman (and his tunes) I always like to listen to! And I like Coleman a lot, and loved the 1964 concert and the Antibes set long before I had the box. As for the Berlin concert, see above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Berlin is *the shit*!! Great stuff for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 (edited) Let see: THE PLUGGED NICKEL THE SECOND QUARTET (1965-68) MILES DAVIS & JOHN COLTRANE IN SILENT WAY BITCHES BREW JACK JOHNSON Don't like DAVIS & EVANS (just my taste). And I've not feel the urge to buy SEVEN STEPS. The studio material stinks and I've all the live, minus few bonus tracks. Have yet to hear the CELLAR DOOR. Edited October 3, 2005 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 And I've not feel the urge to buy SEVEN STEPS. The studio material stinks and I've all the live, minus few bonus tracks. ← anyone care to comment on the mosaic vinyl version of this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 tough call ... I probably like the Silent Way stuff the least, but I will admit I don't know it as well Love the Jack Johnson Most of the rest of it was etched on my brain over the course of the last 25 years ... so it is just a matter of mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 I don't have all of these sets but of those that I have my faves are Coltrane Set Blackhawk Prestige Seven Steps Evans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm rating these not by how great the material is, but by how necessary the box is. I love the material on the 2nd quintet box, but you could get that from all the albums anyway, and for me that set just doesn't really stand out. Same goes for Gil Evans. So with that in mind: 1. Plugged Nickel 2. Jack Johnson 3. Live at the Blackhawk 4. Seven Steps 5. In a Silent Way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm rating these not by how great the material is, but by how necessary the box is. I love the material on the 2nd quintet box, but you could get that from all the albums anyway, and for me that set just doesn't really stand out. Same goes for Gil Evans. So with that in mind: 1. Plugged Nickel 2. Jack Johnson 3. Live at the Blackhawk 4. Seven Steps 5. In a Silent Way ← Not to be disagreeable, but I think both the Evans and 2nd Quintet boxes have material that appears nowhere else, and not just alt takes...someone here must have this info close to hand, it's in the other part of the house and I'm lokking after my 3 yr old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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