Late Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Other fans of this album? I'll list the personnel just for fun: Kenny Dorham: trumpet Henry Coker: trombone Sahib Shihab: alto saxophone Joe Alexander: tenor saxophone Cecil Payne: baritone saxophone Tadd Dameron: piano John Simmons: bass Shadow Wilson: drums recorded March 9, 1956 My only gripe — the album's too short! I wish it could go on for at least twice as long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Add me to the list of fans of this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Great album, and one of the few with tenor saxophonist Joe Alexander. Recommended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 ... and Alexander really shines on his solo spots. I can't say that I know of anything he's done outside of this one album. Was he on any other Prestige sessions? Though Mating Call seems to get the most attention of Dameron's mid-50's work, this is the album of his that I return to most often. Something almost "haunting" about it, even on the more uptemo pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 ... and Alexander really shines on his solo spots. I can't say that I know of anything he's done outside of this one album. Was he on any other Prestige sessions? Alexander made one album as a leader: Blue Jubilee - Jazzland JLP-23 Recorded in NYC on June 20, 1960 Personnel: Johnny Hunt - trumpet, fluegelhorn Joe Alexander (leader) - tenor saxophone Bobby Timmons - piano Sam Jones - bass Al Heath - drums Tracks: Blue Jubilee Weird Beard Brown's Town I'll Close My Eyes Terri's Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Dorham is lovely/crucial in the ensemble, esp. on the title work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinuta Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 A great record, everything by Tadd Dameron is essential listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) beautiful album - and speaking of Mating Call, I have a theory that Coltrane got the idea for the melody of Giant Steps from the opening phrase of the melody "On a Misty Night" - check it out - Edited April 9, 2006 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Interesting theory, Allen. I do hear a parallel. Now — does anyone think Concord will release that Alexander album? Hmm? This is going to sound like a strange comparison ... but the way Tadd Dameron stikes the keys — sometimes reminds me of Ran Blake. (Or maybe vise versa.) Am I crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Another fan here - this is some of the most beautiful jazz I have heard! Well, I'm a Dameron nut, sharing his birthday ..... great soloing all around. Re the piano attack: Dameron always talked about himself playing only arranger's piano, but due to this I think one hears the stark quality that makes one think of Ran Blake and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Count me as a fan. And it's got Shadow Wilson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaro Vega Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 This one, The Magic Touch and the Clifford Brown Memorial Album put Dameron's sound in ideal perspective. Sort of combining the small band with the big. Allen, guitarist Gene Bertoncini recorded in a medley "On A Misty Night/Giant Steps" and I heard him do it in concert several times. Interesting insight..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 interesting - the first time I heard that Dameron CD it occured to me - Coltrane blows those notes and wham, I thought Giant Steps - I have a feeling it was, when he wrote it, unconscious - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Trane held on to his music from the "Mating Call" session. The pages were in the big Christie's jazz auction a few months back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 A wonderful session. Tadd was a marvelous writer. Kenny Dorham on trumpet is a big plus as he is on almost every recording on which he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Listening to Tadd on Clifford Brown's Prestige Memorial at the moment — I think it's Dameron's use of dynamics that reminds me of Blake. (Though "stark" is certainly a good word for both pianists.) Not to derail the thread too much, but what would your "dream" Dameron band be? Or, to put it another way, who would you most like to hear play Dameron's compositions and arrangements? For fun, let's say it's the mid-50's. I'd go with: ~ for brass: Clifford Brown: trumpet Julius Watkins: French horn Frank Rosolino: trombone Bill Barber: tuba ~ for reeds: Charlie Mariano: alto saxophone Bill Perkins: tenor saxophone Danny Bank: baritone saxophone ~ with: Tadd Dameron: piano Wilbur Ware: bass Philly Joe Jones: drums Candido: conga Not a very likely conglomeration, but I'd love to hear how these guys would tackle Tadd's charts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 It's not a Dameron dream band without Fats Navarro. Mine has Johnny Hodges and Harry Carney. Gotta dream big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 I don't see any reason to do without Sahib Shihab and Cecil Payne -- both in vintage shape of course. Their timbres, in particular, seem to me to be what Dameron was hearing in his head. On tenor, the Dexter of the Capitol sides would be a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Sahib Shihab (on baritone especially) and Cecil Payne of course would be great — two of my favorite under-remarked saxophonists. I was just having fun mixing so-called "Coasts". (A person can't knock Henry Coker on trombone for his contributions to Dameron recordings, either. Great sound.) Actually, on drums, I'd like to hear Roy Haynes with Dameron. Yes, Fats with Tadd has that extra sprinkle of magic ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'd love to see Uptown reissue Dameronia CDs. I know Chuck talked about it awhile ago but also told us not to hold our breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaro Vega Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Which begs the question: what did everyone think of Joe Lovano's Tadd Dameron tributes on recent recordings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 I actually don't spin Lovano too often, but 52nd St. Themes is my favorite record of his — by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I actually don't spin Lovano too often, but 52nd St. Themes is my favorite record of his — by a lot. I agree, nice record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makpjazz57 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 A great record, everything by Tadd Dameron is essential listening. Agree with this statement 100 percent. Certainly one of the most unique/identifiable of arrangers/composers. I do think Lovano did a very loving tribute to Dameron with 52nd Street Themes. Yeah, the two Uptown Dameronia recordings are on my wish list for CD release and no, I'm not holding my breath! There was also a wonderful concert (I was in attendance) at Alice Tully Hall in 1988 and it was a tribute to Dameron. Walter Davis Jr., Kenny Washington, Charlie Rouse, Tommy Flanagan - all the guys individually and as "Dameronia" - played beautifully. Probably one of the most memorable jazz concerts I ever attended. Marla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Yeah, the two Uptown Dameronia recordings are on my wish list for CD release and no, I'm not holding my breath! Marla If all goes as planned, the 2nd Dameronia on Uptown "Look Stop and Listen" will be out later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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