ghost of miles Posted August 16, 2003 Report Posted August 16, 2003 Herb Pomeory--the Complete Transition/Roulette/United Artists Big Band Recordings. (If not a Complete, then how about a Select?) Quote
DrJ Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 Good idea, David. I'm not sure exactly how many discs that would end up being, but if it would fall a bit short of 3 CDs for a Select, how about adding in Pomeroy's work with Charlie Mariano on Charlie's early Imperial date (which also included Jaki Byard) from circa 1950? That's a fine session for all concerned, with Mariano very much in his early, heavily Bird-influenced bop bag. Quote
ghost of miles Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 (edited) Good suggestion, Tony, as the four titles listed by AMG probably wouldn't fill out 3 CDs. Probably much more of a Select possibility. Here's what they show for Pomeroy: 1955 Jazz in a Stable Transition 1957 Life is a Many Splendered Gig Fresh Sound (originally on Roulette, I believe) 1958 Band in Boston United Artists 1958 Detour Ahead United Artists I'm going to e-mail Mosaic and see what they say, and I'll include your idea regarding the Mariano. Edited August 17, 2003 by ghost of miles Quote
andersf Posted August 18, 2003 Report Posted August 18, 2003 I'm probably repeating much that already has been said, but I haven't really had the time to read through all contributions. Hopefully everything won't be a repeat of what has been said better before. Blue Note sets; I am a big fan of Mosaic & also have several of their complete Blue Notes; one question is how long that ore can be mined with (artistic) profit. Among the first Mosaics where Thelonious Monk, Sidney Bechet and Herbie Nichols; the latest was Lou Donaldson, a set which I have got, don't regret buying, in fact find very enjoyable, but not really on the same level as some earlier sets. Perhaps the stage will eventually be reached when performers are to uneven to justify the full Mosaic treatment. I suppose Mosaic Select can be regarded as the answer to this eventuality? But looking at Mosaic sets I have enjoyed, I can admit a preference for compilations; this weekend I have been listening through the Master Jazz Solo Piano Sessions. 4 CDs with the same artist can in some cases be too much. The Capitol Sessions are another instance of a set of mostly execllent performances of amazing variety. Becoming more definite. Why not a continuation of the Illinois Jacquett sessions by going over to the sessions recorded by him for Norman Granz, if not enough on their own, part of a set with a few other Verve artists, or also from the Verve catalogue, the series of studio jamsessions; the most wellknown being that with Parker, Hodges, etc, but there must be more than that, or a compilation of something from the 1930s, of performers (singers?) who only made a few sessions. or, like everyone else, it seems, the complete Key Note Sessions. The Coleman Hawkins sessions are very good, it is perhas too much to believe that the rest is as good, but it would still be very listenable. Quote
Alec Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 Lots of great suggestions, but I'll add one more ---Carmen Mcrae Complete Bethlehem/Decca/Kapp. (I wouldn't mind seeing it like the complete Mercury Sarah Vaughan/Dinah Washington) I know Verve was planning on a Complete Mcrae/Sammy Davis Jr. set, but I have seen no word on that for a loooong time. Quote
ghost of miles Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 Good suggestion, Tony, as the four titles listed by AMG probably wouldn't fill out 3 CDs. Probably much more of a Select possibility. Here's what they show for Pomeroy: 1955 Jazz in a Stable Transition 1957 Life is a Many Splendered Gig Fresh Sound (originally on Roulette, I believe) 1958 Band in Boston United Artists 1958 Detour Ahead United Artists I'm going to e-mail Mosaic and see what they say, and I'll include your idea regarding the Mariano. Hey, Tony! Here's the word from the Big Man himself re: our Pomeroy notion: A risky, but very tempting idea. There's also a nice Irene Kral/Pomeroy album on UA. MC So there's hope! Quote
P.D. Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 (edited) Glad MC would include the Kral with the Pomeroy.. if it materialises The Granz Jam Sessions on Verve resulted in 9 LPs, though some of these were short ( 15 min tsides) so would make a good select or regular Mosaic. Jam 1&2 were the three alto / Parker sets Jam 3 & 4 were under Basie's name with Getz and Wardell Gray among the players the rest got a bit haphazard but feature Diz and Roy, Hampton, DeFranco, Webster, Phillips, Jacquet with OP, Ellis, Brown and Rich as rhythm. Long been a on my Mosaic wish list, but MC better be quick. Ocium just isued 3&4 on a CD, less than $10.00 in the cyberstores.. the rest no doubt will follow as they rise above the 50 year dead line. I know....... evil pirates / bootleggers..... but this music has been hidden for too long in the vaults of one of the top gougers of all record labels. Edited August 20, 2003 by P.D. Quote
WD45 Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 How about a Tony Scott set? Maybe the Complete Brunswick and RCA Victor sides? 1953 Music After Midnight Brunswick 1954 Tony Scott Quartet Brunswick 1954 Jazz for GIs: Tony Scott and Mat Mathews Brunswick 1955 Tony Scott Victor 1955 Scott's Fling RCA 1956 Both Sides of Tony Scott Victor 1956 The Touch of Tony Scott Victor 1957 Tony Scott in Hi Fi Brunswick And throw in these as a bonus... 1958 52nd Street Scene Coral 1959 Free Blown Jazz Carlton 1957 In Concert [live] Sound 1957 The Modern Art of Jazz Seeco C'Mon Mosaic...five or six discs...pleeease... Quote
bary01 Posted August 20, 2003 Report Posted August 20, 2003 my dream!!! #the complete Cannonball Adderley Emarcy/mercury sessions #the complete Cannonball Adderley Riverside sessions #the complete Cannonball Adderley Capitol sessions gilles webmaster of the cannonball adderley RDV Quote
DrJ Posted August 21, 2003 Report Posted August 21, 2003 ghost of miles Posted: Aug 20 2003, 07:56 AM  QUOTE (ghost of miles @ Aug 17 2003, 01:08 PM) Good suggestion, Tony, as the four titles listed by AMG probably wouldn't fill out 3 CDs. Probably much more of a Select possibility. Here's what they show for Pomeroy: 1955 Jazz in a Stable Transition 1957 Life is a Many Splendered Gig Fresh Sound (originally on Roulette, I believe) 1958 Band in Boston United Artists 1958 Detour Ahead United Artists I'm going to e-mail Mosaic and see what they say, and I'll include your idea regarding the Mariano. Hey, Tony! Here's the word from the Big Man himself re: our Pomeroy notion: QUOTE A risky, but very tempting idea. There's also a nice Irene Kral/Pomeroy album on UA. MC So there's hope! Yes indeed - thanks for the update, sounds "temptingly" promising. Quote
BruceH Posted August 21, 2003 Report Posted August 21, 2003 Lots of great suggestions, but I'll add one more ---Carmen Mcrae Complete Bethlehem/Decca/Kapp. I'll drink to that! (And I'm not even a drinking man.) B) Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted August 28, 2003 Report Posted August 28, 2003 my dream!!! #the complete Cannonball Adderley Emarcy/mercury sessions #the complete Cannonball Adderley Riverside sessions #the complete Cannonball Adderley Capitol sessions gilles webmaster of the cannonball adderley RDV Thanks for posting here, gilles. I would love more Cannonball too! If more people listened to him, maybe we'd have more alto players around!! Quote
vibes Posted September 13, 2003 Author Report Posted September 13, 2003 Many of us have often wished for a Bobby Hutcherson Mosaic to be done. I emailed Mosaic today about the possibility of a set devoted to any vibes player, and here's the response I got: Nothing currently planned but we are thinking of doing Hutcherson's neglected '70s albums as a Mosaic Select. There is hope! While it would be nice to have some of the more difficult to find 60's albums (Happenings, Oblique, Total Eclipse, etc.) as a Mosaic, I'll take what I can get. Email them and tell them you're interested, if you are! Quote
mike casinghino Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 i was thinking about sending mosaic an e-mail about a late 60's/ 70's hutcherson mosaic/mosaic select box. now i will definitely send one. the list could include: now head on cirrus knucklebean inner glow the view from the inside waiting correct me if i am wrong, but none of these have ever been released on cd. that alone would make this a great addition to anyone's blue note collection imo. Quote
DrJ Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 That would be a real boon, that type of Hutcherson set! Having heard a lot of these on CD-R's, though, I have to say I'd still prefer a box focused on just the Hutch/Land material, including the earlier dates. On another topic - been listening to Slide Hampton's Atlantic recordings and AGAIN can't believe there hasn't been any action by Mosaic to get this stuff out...maybe as a Select? Quote
JSngry Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 What Hampton Atlantic is there that Collectables hasn't yet put out? Quote
king ubu Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 What Hampton Atlantic is there that Collectables hasn't yet put out? How good are those Collectables reissues (soundwise)? We get them here for abotu 25$ which is certainly far too much, and then I find them to have crappy annotation (I have seen some that don't give any personnel, and some that don't give no dates etc). Yet they have an interesting catalogue. And for Hampton: there's a very good one with a similar band in the Jazz in Paris series (called "Exodus"), featuring George Coleman and Richard Williams, among others. Cannonball: yes, I'd love that, too! A complete Emarcy would maybe bring the biggest surprise to the largest number of fans, while a Capitol thing would label-wise be the most probable (the late Capitol stuff, I'd say, because we got all safe one - which is surely just around the corner - from the Riverside/Jazzland/Capitol records). Then, it would be Fantasy's business to put out a box of the complete Riverside recordings. Yet, they don't usually include much unissued live material in their box-sets, and I'd LOVE to have some more from the San Francisco or the Japanese dates! ubu Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 My personal dream set from Mosaic would have everything by the Muscle Shoals/Memphis hybrid band Atlantic assembled for a few choice sessions in '66-68. Most famously for aretha's first few for the label but also for an album and a half for Wilson Pickett, King Curtis Plays Great Memphis Hits, and one from Solomon Burke. (I don't have the albums or a discography in front of me but the defining aspect would be the exquisite and unusual combination of drummer Roger Hawkins from Muscle Shoals and bassist/guitarist tommy Cogbill from the dusty in Memphis band.) Make a nice Mosaic select. Quote
mike casinghino Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 well, a hutcherson/land set would still include: now head on cirrus inner glow from my list, that would be alright, but i would still prefer all of the unissued titles. Quote
GA Russell Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 I second the Buddy Rich Pacific Jazz and the Bobby Hutcherson suggestions! I would also go for: 1) Joao Donato 2) Don Ellis 3) post-1972 Blood Sweat & Tears 4) Manfred Mann Chapter III Quote
DrJ Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 Mike, what about TOTAL ECLIPSE, SAN FRANCISCO, and the stuff issued on MEDINA? All that would be properly included on a Hutch/Land box. I already have it all, but many would be hearing it for the first time. Jim: Collectibles has probably issued all the Slide Hampton Atlantics, but I don't buy their stuff - most I've picked up have sounded like crap and the covers are CHEE-SY. So I tend to hold out - this gives me a much-needed rationale to avoid participating in at least ONE ongoing jazz reissue program, anyhow... -_- Quote
Noj Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 Man, I really dig the Collectibles reissues. I hope my ears don't realize any sound deficiencies any time soon... Quote
Joe Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 THE COMPLETE ROULETTE RECORDINGS OF JOHN HANDY THE COMPLETE ROULETTE / ROOST RECORDINGS OF EDDIE "LOCKJAW" DAVIS THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS OF PAUL KNOPF THE COMPLETE IMPULSE RECORDINGS OF SHIRLEY SCOTT AND STANLEY TURRENTINE THE COMPLETE STANLEY DANCE-PRODUCED FELSTED SESSIONS Quote
mike casinghino Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 DrJ, i also have total eclipse,san francisco, and medina. these titles would definitely be included in a hutcherson/land box. though the seven recordings may not fit into the 3 cd mosaic select format,it may have to be a standard mosaic box.and that said, i would still like to see as many unissued(on cd)sessions as possible, so i would rather have the titles that i first listed. let's just hope that they do some sort of a hutcherson box period. Quote
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