brownie Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 John Coltrane and his quartet played several times at the Village Gate. Only one track has appeared so far on an authorised recording: the outstanding version of 'Nature Boy' that was issued on the New Wave of Jazz (Impulse 90) album, one of the five sides recorded on March 28, 1965 at the concert for the benefit of the Black Arts Repertory Theatre/School. The other sides on the album were performed by the groups of Albert Ayler, Grachan Moncur/Bobby Hutcherson, Archie Shepp and Charles Tolliver/James Spaulding. In the liner notes to the Xanadu album 'Thelonious Monk Live at the Village Gate' (the album was withdrawn shortly after its release in 1985), Mark Gardner states that engineer and jazz fan Richard Alderson who recorded the November 1963 Monk/Village Gate tapes also recorded Rollins and Coltrane at the club. Anybody knows if these tapes still exist? Might be worth having Impulse and the Coltrane estate check them. Would love to have them out for everybody to enjoy! And if there is more Coltrane from the Black Arts benefit, they would be more than welcome too! Quote
king ubu Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 That's what I found: John Coltrane Sextet John Coltrane (ss, ts) Eric Dolphy (as, bcl) McCoy Tyner (p) Art Davis, Reggie Workman (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Village Gate'', NYC, August 8-September 3, 1961 unknown titles rejected John Coltrane Quartet John Coltrane (ss, ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Showboat'', Philadelphia, PA or ``Village Gate'', NYC, April 16, 1964 2 unknown titles private tape John Coltrane Quartet John Coltrane (ss, ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Showboat'', Philadelphia, PA or ``Village Gate'', NYC, July, 1964 My Favorite Things private tape 2 unknown titles - John Coltrane Quartet John Coltrane (ts) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Elvin Jones (d) ``Village Gate'', NYC, March 28, 1965 90374 Nature Boy Impulse A 90 Bass Solo unissued One Down, One Up - * The New Wave in Jazz / various artists (Impulse A 90) John Coltrane Octet John Coltrane (ss, ts, bcl, per, bagpipes) Carlos Ward (as) Pharoah Sanders, Archie Shepp (ts, per) McCoy Tyner (p) Jimmy Garrison (B) Rashied Ali, Elvin Jones (d) ``Village Gate'', NYC, September, 1965 Afro Blue rejected Out of This World - ******** Would "rejected" indicate these recordings were made by Impulse? ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 (edited) Ubu, what is your source for this? "Rejected" only makes sense if the recordings were done by or at the order of Impulse. Edited August 30, 2003 by mikeweil Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted August 30, 2003 Report Posted August 30, 2003 (edited) Bagpipes????????????????? Anybody know if he was also wearing a kilt on the gig that night???? Edited August 31, 2003 by Rooster_Ties Quote
brownie Posted August 31, 2003 Author Report Posted August 31, 2003 Thanks to all the bagpipers on the board! The Richard Alderson Village Gate tapes were made at the Village Gate in New York. And from what I understand his Dan Benedetti job dates from the year 1963. Now let's also try and get those Coltrane bagpipes contributions! Quote
mikeweil Posted August 31, 2003 Report Posted August 31, 2003 Maybe Rufus Harley auditioned for the band and ended up borrowing the pipes for a few nights? Quote
king ubu Posted August 31, 2003 Report Posted August 31, 2003 HOly cow! I didn't see that bagpipe thing! Should stop posting a minute before going to sleep! However, that session sure looks interesting! ubu The source: http://www.jazzdisco.org/trane-dis/ Quote
John L Posted September 2, 2003 Report Posted September 2, 2003 As far as I know, the Coltrane performance of "One Down, One Up" from the March 28, 1965 Village Gate concert remains unissued. I wonder why? Quote
Steve Gray Posted June 1, 2023 Report Posted June 1, 2023 On 9/2/2003 at 9:06 PM, John L said: As far as I know, the Coltrane performance of "One Down, One Up" from the March 28, 1965 Village Gate concert remains unissued. I wonder why? Twenty years on, here it is. It was issued years ago but I have only just discovered it. Available on streaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkEIBgayng Quote
bertrand Posted June 1, 2023 Report Posted June 1, 2023 And 20 years later, the Alderson tapes were found and are being released. A Bob Dylan scholar found them apparently at NYPL? Quote
John L Posted June 1, 2023 Report Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Gray said: Twenty years on, here it is. It was issued years ago but I have only just discovered it. Available on streaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkEIBgayng Thank you! Quote
romualdo Posted June 2, 2023 Report Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, bertrand said: And 20 years later, the Alderson tapes were found and are being released. A Bob Dylan scholar found them apparently at NYPL? https://jazz.centerstagestore.com/pages/john-coltrane wanna buy a tee, tote bag or mug ? also https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179098682/john-coltrane-eric-dolphy-village-gate-1961-lost-album? Edited June 2, 2023 by romualdo Quote
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