Tom 1960 Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I just borrowed this recording from a friend and have to say I'm REALLY enjoying this one. The first 5 tracks are especially killer with a heavy latin feel and fine playing by all musicians. Carlos "Potato" Valdes on conga is terrific. Anyone else want to praise this recording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Clugston Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I love this album. "Afrodisia" is a cracking opener and the five tracks with Valdes are great. But the second half of the album has some greata things too, particularly "K.D.'s Motion." One of my favourite Dorham albums and an excellent showcase of his writing skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 (edited) This really is kind of a Jazz Messengers records with guests: Jay Jay, Cecil Payne (love him here!), and Patato. This is the best playing of Patato with Jazz musicians that I have heard. I prefer to listen to the two sessions separately - this was intended for two 10" LPs. Edited August 29, 2007 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Another good reaosn to listen to Afro-Cuban is Horace Silver's playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 This album was a surprise to me, as I kind of expected to not like it a hell of a lot. But I love it! Great playing all around, and a wonderful chemistry going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dorham, JJ, Hank, Silver, Blakey etc. You can't go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 This title could use the domestic RVG treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructible! Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 This title could use the domestic RVG treatment. It's coming out this month as an RVG! Cheers, Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Kenny Dorham is the king! (Uncrowned, perhaps, but still the king.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 1960 Posted September 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 In the past I've always preferred Lee and Freddie among others. Kenny was further back in the pack at least for me. My opinion has changed recently with a few acquisitions from his catalogue and especially after listening to this fantastic recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 I love this album. "Afrodisia" is a cracking opener and the five tracks with Valdes are great. But the second half of the album has some greata things too, particularly "K.D.'s Motion." One of my favourite Dorham albums and an excellent showcase of his writing skills. Also, "Minor's Holiday" (though the version from the Cafe Bohemia is better). Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Kenny Dorham is the king! (Uncrowned, perhaps, but still the king.) I thought Bob Scobey was the uncrowned king? Just joking, though I have to tell you I've been listening to his recordings lately and man I like his playing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Kenny Dorham is the king! (Uncrowned, perhaps, but still the king.) Amen to that! I have been sort of on a Kenny Dorham roll the last half year of so. I always liked Dorham, but my appreciation has really deepened only recently. His combination of extraordinary musicality, control of the instrument, bop fluency, and lyricism is hard to beat: very satisfying for almost any mood. Kenny has become one of my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 I love this album. "Afrodisia" is a cracking opener and the five tracks with Valdes are great. But the second half of the album has some greata things too, particularly "K.D.'s Motion." One of my favourite Dorham albums and an excellent showcase of his writing skills. Also, "Minor's Holiday" (though the version from the Cafe Bohemia is better). Guy I prefer the "Minor's Holiday" version from AFRO-CUBAN, especially for the participation of Blakey, Valdes and wonderul soloing by Mobley. But that quibble aside, what really makes KD an unsung giant IMO, particularly when compared with other, technically renowned trumpet players who appeared often on Blue Note dates, is his superior compositional ability. Sometime ago I made a CD-R for myself of various KD compositions, e.g., "Tahitian Suite", "La Villa", "Sao Paulo", "Lotus Blossum" (aka "Asiatic Raes"), "Sunrise in Mexico", "El Matador", "Escapade", "Speculate", "The Prophet", "Short Story", "Horn Salute", "Windmill", "Scandia Skies", as well as the aforementioned "Minot's Holiday". Great stuff! With the appearance in recent years of albums by today's players who celebrate the music of past jazz masters, I'd love to see one that pays tribute to KD's wonderful material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 With the appearance in recent years of albums by today's players who celebrate the music of past jazz masters, I'd love to see one that pays tribute to KD's wonderful material. Here's one worth seeking out Don Sickler - The Music of Kenny Dorham (Reservoir) rec. 1983 Don Sickler (tp), JImmy Heath (ts), Cedar Walton (p), Ron Carter (b), Billy Higgins (d) Spring Cannon / Escapade / Windmill / Phily Twist / La Mesha / The Fox / Blue Lament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Thanks for reminding me of that album. Have meant to get it, but it slipped my mind. I really like Sickler's Elmo Hope tribute CD, Hope is in the Air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyhersom Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Just wish he hadn't showed up for Cecil Taylor's Hard Driving Jazz date. Good player, 100% wrong context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Just wish he hadn't showed up for Cecil Taylor's Hard Driving Jazz date. Good player, 100% wrong context. Not to mention that Ted Curson, a more sympathetic choice for Cecil, was originally chosen for the date and that KD was not at all sympatico with Cecil's approach to the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkogre Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Just wish he hadn't showed up for Cecil Taylor's Hard Driving Jazz date. Good player, 100% wrong context. Listening to the crap Cecil plays over KD's composition and solos, I bet KD wished he hadn't shown up either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Just wish he hadn't showed up for Cecil Taylor's Hard Driving Jazz date. Good player, 100% wrong context. Listening to the crap Cecil plays over KD's composition and solos, I bet KD wished he hadn't shown up either. I think the producer (Tom Wilson?) wanted to present Cecil in a more mainstream context, and hired the players. Of course, Cecil was having none of it, and the session just doesn't jell. Cecil and the others seem to be having a tug of war, and nobody wins. To further complicate matters, the session has since been issued as a Coltrane-led date, which makes Cecil the odd man out, even though it was originally his date! A noble experiment that failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Just wish he hadn't showed up for Cecil Taylor's Hard Driving Jazz date. Good player, 100% wrong context. Listening to the crap Cecil plays over KD's composition and solos, I bet KD wished he hadn't shown up either. I think the producer (Tom Wilson?) wanted to present Cecil in a more mainstream context, and hired the players. Of course, Cecil was having none of it, and the session just doesn't jell. Cecil and the others seem to be having a tug of war, and nobody wins. To further complicate matters, the session has since been issued as a Coltrane-led date, which makes Cecil the odd man out, even though it was originally his date! A noble experiment that failed. An experiment - I'm not sure how noble it was. One thing's for sure - Cecil will play his music, his way, without concern for whatever "concepts" record producers may have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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