thomastreichler Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) I am currently listening to "Jordu", a compilation on Dreyfus Reference under the name of Max Roach & Clifford Brown. This is a compilation - in excellent sound by the way - with "Jordu", "I Can't Get Started", "I Get A Kick Out Of You" and "Parisian Thoroughfare", recorded live by the Clifford Brown - May Roach Quintet on August 30 1954; "Tenderly", "Sunset Eyes" , "Clifford's Axe" and "All God's Chillun Got Rhythm", recorded live in April 1954 by the Quintet (including Teddy Edwards, Carl Perkins, George Bledsoe and Max Roach); and "Joy Spring", "Delilah" and "Daahoud", studio recordings from August 2/6 1954. These are exciting recordings. Clifford Brown until now is - inexplicably and inexcusably - a neglected musician in my collection. I definitely want to change that. Where shall I go next? Is the Proper Box "Joy Spring" any good? What about "The Complete Blue Note And Pacific Jazz Recordings"? I also consider purchasing "Study In Brown" and "At Basin Street" as well as the Art Blakey Quintet at Birldland (1954), what are your opinions? Edited September 27, 2007 by Tommy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) Until a few years ago, the easy (and rather reasonably priced) way would have been to purchase the ten CD box 'The Complete EmArcy Recordings' which had all the great albums he recorded with Max Roach in the mid-fifties. Understand the box can now be purchased at rather astronomic prices! The BN/Pacific Jazz box is a musthave item in any collection. So are the two CDs from the Art Blakey at Birdland date. Edited September 27, 2007 by brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) Didn't realize that the Emarcy box is o/p. Most of it can be found on individual Emarcy/Verve CDs for about ten bucks each. You can safely go for any of the Max/Clifford sets and end up with some very good listening. The Clifford Brown with Strings set is a different deal, but fine listening also. The Clifford and vocalists (Helen Merrill, Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughan) CDs are good, but vocalists aren't my thing. Others may have a different view on those. The BN stuff has all been RVG'd - also recommended - especially the Messengers at Birdland sides. Live at the Beehive is another very fine set - mediocre (at best) sound, but great fiery music that overcomes any deficiencies in the sound. Unfortunately, it's currently available only from the Spanish pirates, so you'll have to decide whether you want to go there. Edited September 27, 2007 by paul secor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I keep coming back to the "Beginning and the End" recording, specifically for Clifford's great solos on Donna lee, Walkin' and Night in Tunisia. It's not his last recording, but it's pretty close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erhodes Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Interesting that you started with the live Brown/Roach material from '54. You've gotten the advice you need on the studio dates, though I would add the one under Rollins name. I think the original title was "Sonny Rollins plus 4", though it was reissued under the title "Three Giants". Philology had a series called "Brownie's Eyes" which ultimately ran to more than 30 volumes of live material and outtakes from various studio dates. The "Brownie's Eyes" disks are long OOP but it seems that some of the Brown/Roach material has been re-booted. Some of these titles have been mentioned on other recent Rollins threads but I would recommend you consider "More Live at the Bee Hive" (MSI), "Clifford Brown at the Cotton Club" (Lonehill), and "Clifford Brown/Max Roach, The Last Concert" (RLR). I can't speak for the sound quality because I have it all from Philology (which was generally fair to poor except for the "More Live at the Bee Hive" set, which was pretty good) but the performances are incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The ones on RVG are must haves. Get the two Birdland sides with Blakey, and Memorial Album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The BN/Pacific Jazz box is a musthave item in any collection. So are the two CDs from the Art Blakey at Birdland date. I couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I keep coming back to the "Beginning and the End" recording, specifically for Clifford's great solos on Donna lee, Walkin' and Night in Tunisia. It's not his last recording, but it's pretty close. Not that close really, since it was recorded on 31st May 1955, over a year before his death. Which takes nothing away from the music, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The ones on RVG are must haves. Get the two Birdland sides with Blakey, and Memorial Album. Thanks, glad to hear this. I already have the Birdland dates, 4 Emarcys, and Rollins + 4 (sold Sarah Vaughan w. CB as vocals aren't my thing). Memorial Album is currently at the head of my yourmusic queue, and I was wondering whether to leave it there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastreichler Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thank you all for your recommendations. Seems I have to spend some money ... I think I firts go for the Birdland session with Art Blakey and the Blue Notes / Pacifics, then some more Brown/Roach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I think "Study in Brown" is the best Brown/Roach album. It has it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The ones on RVG are must haves. Get the two Birdland sides with Blakey, and Memorial Album. Thanks, glad to hear this. I already have the Birdland dates, 4 Emarcys, and Rollins + 4 (sold Sarah Vaughan w. CB as vocals aren't my thing). Memorial Album is currently at the head of my yourmusic queue, and I was wondering whether to leave it there... Memorial Album has a track on it called "Brownie Speaks" that to me is some of the most exciting trumpet playing I've ever heard. I've listened to that track countless times and I'm just floored every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Don't forget the fabulous material recorded in Paris with Gigi Gryce (quintet) and a big band largely (and clandestinely) put together from the Hampton organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Don't forget the fabulous material recorded in Paris with Gigi Gryce (quintet) and a big band largely (and clandestinely) put together from the Hampton organisation. Is this material currently available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The BN/Pacific Jazz box is a musthave item in any collection. So are the two CDs from the Art Blakey at Birdland date. I couldn't agree more. To avoid duplication, the Birdland date is included in the BN/Pacific Jazz box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I keep coming back to the "Beginning and the End" recording, specifically for Clifford's great solos on Donna lee, Walkin' and Night in Tunisia. It's not his last recording, but it's pretty close. Not that close really, since it was recorded on 31st May 1955, over a year before his death. Which takes nothing away from the music, of course. Wow.....I was fairly sure the original date given on the recording's liner notes (June 25, 1956, the day before he died) was incorrect, but I didn't know the correct date was an entire year earlier! My recommendation still stands, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 As Free says, the liners specifically give the date as 6/25/56 - the day before he died. The drummer on the date is even quoted discussing the session and the blow upon hearing the news the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I heard that there was a dispute over the date of this recording. Has the dispute actually been resolved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 There certainly was a jam session just hours before Brownie's death, which the drummer could reminisce about. However, that is not the one on the Columbia album! Even the liner notes say that this session wasn't Clifford's first at Music City, and that usually a tape recorder would be in action, and indeed this recording must be an earlier one. The reason it can't be 25th June 1956 is that tenorist Billy Root, who is present on the recording, was on tour with Stan Kenton at the time of Clifford's death. It thus has to be an earlier occasion. According to my notes researcher Alan Hood reported the date to be 31st May 1955 in the November 1996 Jazz Journal International (p.18). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Billy Root was interviewed in Cadence sometime ago and stated that the session did not occur on the date stated in the liner notes. He didn't give a date, but said that it occurred well before Clifford Brown's passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 There certainly was a jam session just hours before Brownie's death, which the drummer could reminisce about. However, that is not the one on the Columbia album! Even the liner notes say that this session wasn't Clifford's first at Music City, and that usually a tape recorder would be in action, and indeed this recording must be an earlier one. The reason it can't be 25th June 1956 is that tenorist Billy Root, who is present on the recording, was on tour with Stan Kenton at the time of Clifford's death. It thus has to be an earlier occasion. According to my notes researcher Alan Hood reported the date to be 31st May 1955 in the November 1996 Jazz Journal International (p.18). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastreichler Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Just now I am listening to "A Night At Birdland" by the Art Blakey Quintet featuring Clifford Brown on Dreyfus Reference. This is timeless music, Clifford is absolutely great, Lou Donaldson is in fine from too and Art Blakey swings like mad; sound, as usual on Dreyfus Reference, is exceptional. The Dreyfus edition of the famous concert consists of the following tracks: 1. Split Kick 2. Once In A While 3. Quicksilver 4. A Night In Tunisia 5. Mayreh 6. Wee Dot 7. If I Had You 8. Now's The time 9. Confirmation This is not the complete set covered by the three volumes on Blue Note. Thanks to all of you who recommended this set, it is a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I got the Blue Note Memorial Album last month (yourmusic queue), and really like it. Thanks to those who recommended it. Would have bought it sooner had I known about the session with Elmo Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 My advice? Buy everything (legit) with Clifford's name on it, without hestitation. Some are better than others (and they've been covered here) but you'll find some rewarding music on them all. Considering how little time the man had to make music, it's not that difficult. The EmArcy box is starting to show its age in the remastering department; are the individual issues better sonically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 The EmArcy box is starting to show its age in the remastering department how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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