jlhoots Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hmmmm, now I'm interested in getting it, thanks. Get it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Let it be IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 It's avant-garde-y-ish...lots of no doubt well-intentioned and sincere effects that in the end are still effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 It's avant-garde-y-ish...lots of no doubt well-intentioned and sincere effects that in the end are still effects. One of those albums you buy, play once, and put away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 It's avant-garde-y-ish...lots of no doubt well-intentioned and sincere effects that in the end are still effects. One of those albums you buy, play once, and put away. I guess like everyone had to do a Bossa Nova album later on, in the early 60s, everyone had to do a New Thing album -- but Bob James of all people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 It's avant-garde-y-ish...lots of no doubt well-intentioned and sincere effects that in the end are still effects. One of those albums you buy, play once, and put away. I guess like everyone had to do a Bossa Nova album later on, in the early 60s, everyone had to do a New Thing album -- but Bob James of all people? This was his musical personality before he went light. He didn't just out of the blue try to do something trendy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) His first album was a trio side on Mercury, probably from when he was Sarah Vaughan's MD. Very mainstream stuff. I give him credit for being curious and checking stuff out. There's plenty who aren't and who don't. And I think that quality shows up in his later, overtly "commercial" work as well. It's a guy making calculated choices, sure, but he's making informed choices, not just giving his artistic booty up to the Robot Probe while reading the Enquirer in the checkout line. Those type guys are a pox on humanity. The Bob James types are just people having fun making a good living. I'll not convict for that. Edited June 16, 2012 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Let it be IMO. Mine too. One listen was plenty for me. And I like ESP-disk stuff fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 His first album was a trio side on Mercury, probably from when he was Sarah Vaughan's MD. Very mainstream stuff. I dunno, the Bob James on Mercury is pretty weird - electronics, inside the piano stuff, alongside real odd versions of standards. Reminds me a bit of the Don Friedman stuff from the period, albeit with a narrower vocabulary. The trio won a single-LP deal on Mercury as a prize for an Ann Arbor Jazz Festival competition in '63. This is what I recall from my conversations with the drummer, Cleve Pozar, anyway. It's a fine LP in my opinion, but then again, I like the ESP quite a bit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 You may well be right. I have only a faint memory of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterintoronto Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Can anyone comment on the sound quality of the 2008 digipack reissue of Paul Bley's 'Barrage'? The German XYZ is very muffled and most certainly a needle-drop. Is the 2008 reissue indeed sound like it mastered from the original tapes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Well Bob James really does his jazz thing on that Montreux Summit from 1977, where he´s together with George Duke. IMHO , Bob James, when playing "jazz", sounds a bit more abstract, maybe a litte into the Tristano thing, I don´t know how to describe it, but though I´m not too familiar with all his big hits from the 70´s , I think he´s someone who really knows all the stuff and could or would play everything from straight ahead to far out to "Nightcrawler" and stuff......, great musician no question...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin V Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Well Bob James really does his jazz thing on that Montreux Summit from 1977, where he´s together with George Duke. IMHO , Bob James, when playing "jazz", sounds a bit more abstract, maybe a litte into the Tristano thing, I don´t know how to describe it, but though I´m not too familiar with all his big hits from the 70´s , I think he´s someone who really knows all the stuff and could or would play everything from straight ahead to far out to "Nightcrawler" and stuff......, great musician no question...... I like his Straight Up disc with Christian McBride and Brian Blade. I haven't heard any of his more commercial work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 As to the Bob James ESP - I had it, listened to it twice, don't have it any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Expanded issue of More Giuseppi Logan is either out or imminent. Real nice date in my opinion, with ten minutes of unheard music from the Town Hall set. Hope Giuseppi is seeing some money for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Expanded issue of More Giuseppi Logan is either out or imminent. Real nice date in my opinion, with ten minutes of unheard music from the Town Hall set. Hope Giuseppi is seeing some money for this. I used to have that. As I recall, one side was only about 9 minutes long. Needed expansion. Wonder why the 10 min track was left off? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Well that's another story - the first run of stereo pressings accidentally left off the last track, which was fixed in the early '70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Well that's another story - the first run of stereo pressings accidentally left off the last track, which was fixed in the early '70s. I'm as sure as I can be that I had a mono one. I bought it in July '67 and didn't start buying stereo LPs until '68. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Ah, really? I was under the impression that the monos were correct. I know all four tracks were present on green-label stereo issues from the early '70s. This is good information, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 My LP copy of More Giuseppi Logan - not marked, but sounds like mono - was purchased when it was released and contains four tracks: "Mantu', "Shebar", "Curve Eleven", and Wretched Saturday". Hope this adds to the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 My LP copy of More Giuseppi Logan - not marked, but sounds like mono - was purchased when it was released and contains four tracks: "Mantu', "Shebar", "Curve Eleven", and Wretched Saturday". Hope this adds to the confusion. Certainly does. Perhaps a pre-release batch was sent to Britain? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW! Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Even nicer is the fact that Mr Logan is still alive and his fifth album has just been published: http://www.improvising-beings.com/#ib16. Sorry for being out of topic, I would just find it saddening that another re-re-re-re-reissue of ESP stuff overshadows what's happening in the here and now of our heroes' difficult lives... Edited June 25, 2013 by HW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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