marcello Posted August 22, 2008 Report Posted August 22, 2008 Here's a photo that I took of a unknown trombonist in Mercer Ellington's band. Appears to be a bass trombone. Chuck Connors, perhaps? No, it's not Chuck Connors. It's hard to tell from this dark photo. He was a ypung guy, like most of the people in the band, Here's another of him: Quote
marcello Posted August 22, 2008 Report Posted August 22, 2008 I'll just add one personal favorite: Jimmy Knepper in L.A. (Disco Mate) - For me, this captures the beauty of Jimmy Knepper's sound better than any other recording I've heard. Here's a couple of my Knepper photos for you: Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 Shame on all of you for no mention of Dickie Wells. Quote
Free For All Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) Shame on all of you for no mention of Dickie Wells. Mentioned in posts #29 and #32 by Mssrs. Sangrey and Tapscott, respectively. Most of the greats have been included already, but there are some (all greatly admired by yours truly) who haven't yet been mentioned: Jack Jenney (famous for his solo on Stardust w/Artie Shaw, acknowleged influence of JJ and Fontana) Vic Dickenson Trummy Young Willie Dennis Hal Crook Tommy Turk Eddie Bert Butter Burgess Britt Woodman Quentin Jackson .....and don't forget our esteemed board member Greg Waits! EDIT: Holy crap, I just realized no one's mentioned SLIDE HAMPTON yet! One of the greats for sure........ Edited August 23, 2008 by Free For All Quote
Free For All Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 I didn't want to be a thread hog. Oh yeah, and regarding your earlier comment......STFU! Quote
catesta Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 I didn't want to be a thread hog. Oh yeah, and regarding your earlier comment......STFU! Sheesh... That's exactly what I was talking about. Quote
Free For All Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 I didn't want to be a thread hog. Oh yeah, and regarding your earlier comment......STFU! Sheesh... That's exactly what I was talking about. "Well then, TAKE Manhattan and get the f*ck off my bus!" Quote
catesta Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 I prefer the chicks on Staten Island. Quote
montg Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 One of the glories of jazz is the tonal blend of trombone, trumpet, and tenor.... my favorite Messengers groups are the ones with Fuller, he fills out the ensemble in a way perfectly suited for that music. Vic Dickenson is GREAT...his Vanguard recordings shouldn't be missed Quote
Free For All Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 Can he play his way out of a closet? Cain't play no trambone in no closet. No room for the GD slide. Quote
Free For All Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 One of the glories of jazz is the tonal blend of trombone, trumpet, and tenor.... my favorite Messengers groups are the ones with Fuller, he fills out the ensemble in a way perfectly suited for that music. Trombone and tenor, trombone and bari, trombone and alto flute- three of my favorite combinations. Quote
sidewinder Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 Anyone mentioned Gianluca Petrella yet? One of the finest and most fluent 'bonists' on the current scene and a leading light of Italian jazz. Closer to home, Dennis Rollins has to be one of the most impressive (and big sounding) players on the UK scene. Quote
Free For All Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 Anyone mention Wayne Henderson? He had some chops back in the day ... I was (and still am) a big WH fan. He was one of the first guys I checked out, and I played in a group in high school that played a bunch of Crusaders tunes. Wayne was a big time disciple of JJ (as most trombonists are) and had that big, fat sound that drew me in. I still listen to the Crusaders now and then. WH is a soulful MF! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 So, no one 'cep me, is mentioning Bennie Green Don Drummond Rico Shame! Or Fred Wesley - the only trombonist to have a #1 R&B hit ever. MG Quote
sidewinder Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 Bennie Green I like his Mosaic Select. Real 'good-vibe' music. Quote
gmonahan Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 What any trombone player would find amazing about that is that Jack plays most of the solo in the first three postions, rarely using even fourth position. Though there are many tromboinsts I admire greatly, I have to say that Jack and J.J. are the fountainheads. It's also fascinating to compare the videos of Jack and Fontana. Their ease with the slide, and the fact that both play almost exclusively between first and fourth position is really striking. Two seamless masters at work. No one has mentioned two of the earlier pioneers: Jimmy Harrison, whose ideas coincided with those of Teagarden but who died too early in 1931, and the legendary Fred Beckett, who recorded with Harlan Leonard and was regarded by J.J. Johnson as the first "modern" trombonist. I don't know if any of the Leonard sides with Beckett are available on cd. I have him on an ancient LP in the old RCA Victor Vintage series. Greg Mo Quote
montg Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 One of the glories of jazz is the tonal blend of trombone, trumpet, and tenor.... my favorite Messengers groups are the ones with Fuller, he fills out the ensemble in a way perfectly suited for that music. Trombone and tenor, trombone and bari, trombone and alto flute- three of my favorite combinations. bari, trombone and alto flute.......interesting; I'm drawing a blank on examples of this, any clues? Dolphy recordings maybe? Others? Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 In the "free" arena, let's not forget Paul Rutherford. The issue of his 1975 Berlin concerts on Emanem is really nice stuff, too. Others of note: the "real" Clifford Thornton Albert Mangelsdorff Nick Evans Johannes Bauer Conny Bauer Malcolm Griffiths Willem Van Manen Daouud Haroom Charles Stephens On this tack - Gail Brand and Alan Tomlinson too! Quote
JohnS Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 I'm happy to say that over the years I've seen Alan Tomlinson, Paul Rutherford, Malcolm Griffiths, Conny Bauer and Nick Evans. Sadly not the others. Quote
BillF Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) I'm happy to say that over the years I've seen Alan Tomlinson, Paul Rutherford, Malcolm Griffiths, Conny Bauer and Nick Evans. Sadly not the others. Talking of "over the years", between 1957 and about 97, I saw all the following who made their way to these shores: Jack Teagarden Dickie Wells Britt Woodman Quentin Jackson Chuck Connors Lawrence Brown Benny Powell Henry Coker Al Grey Kai Winding Bill Watrous Slide Hampton Gary Valente Unfortunately, I never got to see my all-time favorites: J.J., Rosolino and Brookmeyer. Edited August 23, 2008 by BillF Quote
JohnS Posted August 23, 2008 Report Posted August 23, 2008 Hearing the trombone close up is awesome. I saw JJ and Kai years ago. I was in the front row and the sound really crackled with overtones. More recently I had the same experience with Robin Eubanks, front row seat again but when he moved off mike the sound as electric. All this was lost through amplification. I don't think I've noticed this phenomenon with any other brass/wind instrument. Quote
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