new Star Trek Movie!

[jazzbo]

Saw the new movie last night again, this time with my gal. She's the perfect movie companion, she jumps and is shocked exactly when the diretor wants her to be. And she's a lot of fun in other ways. . . we're like teens together.

She really liked it. A lot. It was fun for me to see second time around. Still had my same "problem" with the story line/direction. We'll see what they do with this next. Do you think Abrams plans . . . a tv show?

[BruceH]

Red matter is detailed in "Star Trek: Countdown" I believe.

"Star Trek" was often scientifically unbelievable, so good

science is probably not what one should expect when watching this.

"Star Trek: Countdown"? And that is what now?

Believe me, I don't expect "good" science from ANY SF movie! But something that has some sort of "fictional" logic, at least with an evocative name, or that makes a dime's worth of sense in that particular universe. I don't think that's asking too much.

The Star Trek movie looks like Shakespeare compared to the new Terminator flick.

You got that right!

Edited May 22, 2009 by BruceH

[BruceH]

The Star Trek movie looks like Shakespeare compared to the new Terminator flick.

I guess that makes the original 1951 The Day the Earth Stood Still Chaucer, Cervantes, and Shakespeare all rolled into one!

[7/4]

My only ST joke

Uhura likes Spock cuz she can keep him in place by grabbing his ears

Lucky Freaking Vulcan

Oh yes...how do French Women hold their liquor?

[BruceH]

"Star Trek: Countdown"? And that is what now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_trek_countdown

Ah.

[fasstrack]

Not bad. I saw it and immediately forgot it. No impact. But that's me. It was more an excuse to get together with my friend, who makes anything enjoyable by showing up. She already had that in the works.

But it was OK and diverting, no more.

[Alexander]

"Star Trek: Countdown"? And that is what now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_trek_countdown

Ah.

I mentioned this on the first or second page of the thread. It's the comic book prequel which goes into Nero's motives. If you just see the movie, you're not getting the whole story...

[DukeCity]

I was so proud of my 8-year old daughter who turned to me and said - SPOLIER WARNING - that the guy in the red spacesuit was going to die. Yep, that's my girl!

SPOILER WARNING -

I LOVED the way the film included lots and lots of references to the show. The Red Shirt dying, "Dammit man, I'm a doctor not a physicist!", "I'm givin' 'er all I got!", "Fascinating!", Kirk making out with a green chick, Pine's little Shatner impression on the word "Bones" at the end of the film...

It was a Trekker's dream come true!

And speaking of daughters...

My nine year old recognized Karl Urban, the actor who played McCoy, from his role as Eomer in the Lord of the Rings films! I didn't even recognize him!

I enjoyed those TV references, too. Saw the movie yesterday afternoon, and liked it a lot!

[Cyril]

What Star Trek Race Are You?

My result is...

[Bright Moments]

Edited May 24, 2009 by Bright Moments

[Bright Moments]

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Better than these Kardashians:

o.k. this is not pc, but.....

is the one on the right a man?

[Dan Gould]

That's been my working theory all along.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

I finally got a chance to see this yesterday and while it was very enjoyable, the inconsistencies and incredible leaps of logic were tough to swallow. The whole sequence on the snow planet was just too contrived and too unbelievable - even for Star Trek.

It's great that this movie will start us down a path to more movies because I'm a die hard Trekkie.

Kevin

[Rooster_Ties]

Saw the movie just today, and hated it.

OK, I didn't really "hate" it... ...but I DID really find MOST of it pretty annoying (at best).

Forget all the leaps of logic, and physics that wouldn't work in a million years (SPOILER: parachuting to a planet from space???!!!!!!!!!!!! – gimme a fuckin’ break!!!) -- I thought there were some pretty gaping and basic continuity problems (SPOILER: when the HELL did Scotty go from essentially being a scallywag on some mining operation (or remote outpost, I forget which), to suddenly being chief of engineering???!!!! -- in the space of about 30 seconds of screen time??). And (SPOILER) Spock just gives up command?? -- without even the remotest concern for giving command to any specific person????!!!!!!!!!

Purely as an "action" movie, it was fine -- but speaking as a longtime Trek fan (especially of the better seasons of ST:NG and DS9), I found it all very deeply UNsatifying.

I doubt I’ll go see any sequels to THIS Star Trek franchise. Bah Humbug!!!

(Only paid $4 for my ticket, as it was the first (Noon) showing of the movie of the day -- and it was barely even worth $4, in my book -- THAT'S what I thought of it.)

Edited May 27, 2009 by Rooster_Ties

[Aggie87]

(SPOILER) Spock just gives up command?? -- without even the remotest concern for giving command to any specific person????!!!!!!!!!

Spock already knew that Kirk was acting 1st officer. Pike had designated/promoted him when they escorted him to the transport earlier.

Not sure about the Scotty thing or the parachuting though.

[Rooster_Ties]

(SPOILER) Spock just gives up command?? -- without even the remotest concern for giving command to any specific person????!!!!!!!!!

Spock already knew that Kirk was acting 1st officer. Pike had designated/promoted him when they escorted him to the transport earlier.

Yes, but Spock neither gave command to Kirk, nor did he even acknowledge that he was suddenly OK with Kirk suddenly having command. Terribly out of character for Spock (no matter which universe we're talking about).

[Aggie87]

(SPOILER) Spock just gives up command?? -- without even the remotest concern for giving command to any specific person????!!!!!!!!!

Spock already knew that Kirk was acting 1st officer. Pike had designated/promoted him when they escorted him to the transport earlier.

Yes, but Spock neither gave command to Kirk, nor did he even acknowledge that he was suddenly OK with Kirk suddenly having command. Terribly out of character for Spock (no matter which universe we're talking about).

But Spock didn't have to specifically designate Kirk as the commanding officer. Spock knew that Kirk was 1st officer, and would assume command by right/responsibility, once he stepped down. That is what a 1st officer does if the captain cannot perform his/her duties.

[Alexander]

(SPOILER) Spock just gives up command?? -- without even the remotest concern for giving command to any specific person????!!!!!!!!!

Spock already knew that Kirk was acting 1st officer. Pike had designated/promoted him when they escorted him to the transport earlier.

Yes, but Spock neither gave command to Kirk, nor did he even acknowledge that he was suddenly OK with Kirk suddenly having command. Terribly out of character for Spock (no matter which universe we're talking about).

But Spock didn't have to specifically designate Kirk as the commanding officer. Spock knew that Kirk was 1st officer, and would assume command by right/responsibility, once he stepped down. That is what a 1st officer does if the captain cannot perform his/her duties.

Which is why the old Spock told Kirk what he had to do in order to make young Spock unfit for command. He knew that once young Spock had recused himself, he would respect the chain of command and accept Kirk as Captain without question.

As for Scotty, my assumption was that Kirk had become thoroughly convinced of Scotty's engineering ability during their brief meeting, and that he had simply appointed Scotty Chief of Engineering once he assumed command (which he could do once he was captain). Since Scotty proved his worth in the crisis, he remained in charge of Engineering thereafter.

As for the parachuting thing, once again, my assumption was that the ship was in close orbit and that they were within the planet's atmosphere when they jumped.

So none of these things bugged me at all.

[mikelz777]

I really enjoyed the movie but what was the deal between Uhura and Spock? That didn't ring true for me at all and where the heck did that come from? I didn't see it built up or developed as a story thread and unless I'm mistaken, there was no precedent or mention of a relationship or "thing" between the characters from the original series. Was this whole deal a creation of the writers, perhaps to show Spock succumbing to his human side? I can't say that I'd blame him but this little twist didn't work for me.

[RDK]

They also didn't release the chutes until they reached atmosphere. Prior to that they free-falled (which may be implausible anyway, but they were wearing special suits and it is the future after all). I agree, though, that there were a number of head-scratching plot points. Didn't interfere with my enjoyment of it though.

[Alexander]

I really enjoyed the movie but what was the deal between Uhura and Spock? That didn't ring true for me at all and where the heck did that come from? I didn't see it built up or developed as a story thread and unless I'm mistaken, there was no precedent or mention of a relationship or "thing" between the characters from the original series. Was this whole deal a creation of the writers, perhaps to show Spock succumbing to his human side? I can't say that I'd blame him but this little twist didn't work for me.

I think it served two purposes: One, yes it showed Spock struggling between his Vulcan and Human sides. The "older" Spock of the original series had his hormones a bit more under control (except when it was time for Pon Faar). Two, it upset audience expectations that Kirk was going to be the one getting all the female action in this movie (actually, he only gets one girl). It also served to give Kirk a little ego-slapdown when it came to the whole Uhura thing: No, he really wasn't going to get anywhere with her. She's taken.

[Free For All]

[ejp626]

If I'm reading it correctly, Red Shirt says Because Tomorrow May Never Come, which is certainly better than what I was thinking Red Shirt: May Smell Like Death.

Does anyone remember Galaxy Quest, when one of the extras who gets swept along for the ride, spends the whole picture worrying about being "red shirted"? Classic.

[jazzbo]

I really enjoyed the movie but what was the deal between Uhura and Spock? That didn't ring true for me at all and where the heck did that come from? I didn't see it built up or developed as a story thread and unless I'm mistaken, there was no precedent or mention of a relationship or "thing" between the characters from the original series. Was this whole deal a creation of the writers, perhaps to show Spock succumbing to his human side? I can't say that I'd blame him but this little twist didn't work for me.

If you watch the first season of Star Trek, there are several interactions between Spock and Uhuru which may have inspired this plot element. One where Uhuru is sort of flirting with Spock out of boredom, or rather trying to get him to flirt with her, another where he plays "space lute" or whatever to accompany her singing and there's friendly affection between them. . . . .

I like that they included this, very much. One of the highligts of the film for me.

[Shawn]

I think everyone is taking this a little too seriously. It's STAR TREK for goodness sake, it's not supposed to be "great science"...it's just supposed to be escapist entertainment with good characters. It succeeds on both levels.