JSngry Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJWPs69ZJn4 Quote
sidewinder Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 Yeah, great stuff. I think this particular concert has been 'up' on dime in the past. Quote
Guy Berger Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 I'll throw it out there - this was Miles's best working group, and the best playing of Wayne Shorter's career. Guy Quote
BruceH Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 Sounded rushed. Did they have a train to catch? Quote
Dave James Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 I'll throw it out there - this was Miles's best working group, and the best playing of Wayne Shorter's career. Guy Wow! Better than Miles, Coltrane, Kelly, Chambers and Cobb? Not sure I can go along with that. My favorite Shorter is with Art Blakey, but that's probably a function of the type of music The Messengers played, as I'm much more partial to that style. Up over and out. Quote
bertrand Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Still waiting for an official release on DVD of some of this stuff... And whatever happened to the 2-CD set from Juan-Les-Pins in 1969? This stuff would sell if marketed properly. Bertrand. Quote
JSngry Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Posted August 2, 2009 I'll throw it out there - this was Miles's best working group, and the best playing of Wayne Shorter's career. Guy Don't know if I can get with that type metric, but...I know what you're saying, and what I will say is that where that band started and where it ended up is one of the most rapid, thorough, and irrevocable evolutions in the history of known music. It was a band that pretty much left nothing unfinished, and that goes for Wayne as well. When everybody involved "moved on", it was basically because they had to, either that or else just quit. That's a very rare thing to find, never mind just in music, but in life. Quote
mikeweil Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 I'll throw it out there - this was Miles's best working group, and the best playing of Wayne Shorter's career. I see your point. Shorter would have been a great candidate for leading the free or semi-free camp, with his sense of form (which is lacking, for my ears, in most so-called free playing) - the tension comes from the ever ongoing conflict with musical boundaries, so you better not give them up completely. As far as Corea is concerned, he was tinkling too much, for my taste - very occupied with his own stuff, and not as rhythmically communicative as e.g. Herbie. But that music wasn't meant to be perfect ... Quote
AllenLowe Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 I don't know....reminds me of a tired modern painting - Quote
7/4 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 But that music wasn't meant to be perfect ... yet, it really does sound perfect. . Quote
jeffcrom Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 I'll throw it out there - this was Miles's best working group, and the best playing of Wayne Shorter's career. Guy I'm with you on the second part of your statement - this is my favorite period for Wayne Shorter. And while individually this quintet was as talented as any Miles had, I don't think it was the best band Miles had. They didn't have the unity of the 1964-68 quintet - they were going in so many directions that it sometimes affected the totality of the music. But it was a very exciting band, and one I love to listen to. For a short period, you could hear stuff from Miles' 50's repertoire, stuff from the mid-60's quintet, and his new electric tunes all in one set - "Round Midnight" to "Footprints" to "Bitches Brew." Quote
rockefeller center Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 I'd like to read couw's comments on this one. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 Sorry to say that the only Wayne on soprano that I particularly like is his playing with Miles circa '68-'70. (Which I think are exclusively live documents, IIRC). I'm sure I'm somewhat in the minority on this, but I'm just not all that enamored with soprano in general (Wayne, or otherwise). Quote
7/4 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 I'd like to read couw's comments on this one. I remember he doesn't even like Miles. ... Quote
AndrewHill Posted August 5, 2009 Report Posted August 5, 2009 Yeah, great stuff. Indeed. Thanks for posting. Quote
Enterprise Server Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 Thanks for the link! Love Miles and the Bitches Brew composition. I remember when I first I heard it I wasn't ready. Took me a while to get with it. When I did, I was hooked for life. And I love the awesome Mati Klarwein art work. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted August 11, 2009 Report Posted August 11, 2009 there are v. few bands/artists where I'd want to hear every gig for a year even once, much less repeatedly, but this is it...a hundred years from now music students will still be writing about what happened in this band that year. Quote
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