Free For All Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I just ordered this from Amazon. I'm not sure if it has been discussed here already, but I thought it looked interesting. Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Looks very interesting; added to my half.com want-list. On a side note, I just realized I hadn't seen the cover to "E.S.P." in eons, such that I'd completely forgotten what it looked like. (My 'go-to' recordings of this material is the 65-68 box, and I guess I hadn't paged through it (or at least where the album-cover repros are) in eons.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Here's the author. He wants to know why you would even have any doubts. Seriously, let us know how it is. Sounds like the guy has a solid background to be doing musical analysis: http://music.colorado.edu/faculty/keith-waters/ but I want to have it confirmed before I spend my money on anotehr book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 $98 for the hardcover!!??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Does the hardcover have anything the paperback doesn't, other than a hard cover? That's quite a price differential. I heard a rumor he accidentally forgot the Water Babies album. Bummer. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Probably not. I'm guessing this is an academic pressing and there are often huge differences in pricing between the hardcover and softcover, both being quite expensive. In addition, it looks like the softcover is being remaindered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I just ordered I'll wait for your review before buying one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I ordered. But... All I want to get is accurate/relevant technical musical analysis, the more technical the better, but only if it's accurate and relevant to the music being played. It can be a damnably horrible book otherwise and I won't care. But if I don't get what I came for, I will be pissed and never forgive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I ordered from amazon.ca for $15.29. Probably won't read it until my summer vacation, but figured for that price, I might as well go for it. They only had one in stock and the re-stock likely won't be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Amazon UK have it for about £11 so I think I'll add it to my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I ordered. But... All I want to get is accurate/relevant technical musical analysis, the more technical the better, but only if it's accurate and relevant to the music being played. It can be a damnably horrible book otherwise and I won't care. But if I don't get what I came for, I will be pissed and never forgive. I think it's what you're looking for, Jim. I just got mine and can't vouch for accuracy, but a quick look-through reveals that the musical analysis is very detailed and technical. Probably way over my head for the most part, but I'll give it a go. Obviously has to be read with recordings at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Keith is a serious musicologist. I knew he was working on this for a while. I'm sure it is a quality work. Bill Kirchner praised it elsewhere. I will definitely be picking it up - the paperback Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Another book to add to the wish list ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Definitely, this will be very cool to check out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 why such a difference in price between hardcover and paperback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattes Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 From the same series.... Louis Armstrong's Hot Five and Hot Seven Recordings (Oxford Studies in Recorded Jazz) http://www.amazon.com/Armstrongs-Recordings-Oxford-Studies-Recorded/dp/0195388402/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1301008884&sr=1-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Picked it up today. He nicely thanks me for showing him the Shorter copyrights at LC. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Anybody gotten into this yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted April 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) I'm going to dive in after the semester's done, but I've been skimming and it looks pretty interesting to me. I can see I'm going to have to listen to the recordings while reading the analysis of the tunes (I've always thought it interesting that "analysis" starts with a-n-a-l). Edited April 22, 2011 by Free For All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattes Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 The Birth of the Cool of Miles Davis and His Associates http://www.amazon.com/Birth-Miles-Associates-Sourcebooks-American/dp/1576471284/ref=sr_1_6/191-7177925-8198569?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1303515799&sr=1-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnik Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I just realized I hadn't seen the cover to "E.S.P." in eons. with his wife, or i don't know if she was already his wife. so his soon to be or ex-wife (miles being miles!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Just picked up the Kindle edition. Looking forward to reading this, hope it won't be completely over my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I really liked this book. A lot of it DID go over my head, but large chunks of it didn't and it definitely increased my appreciation and understanding of the music. In particular, his discussion of how the quintet tackled form was extremely insightful to me. I also really liked the discussion of the 1968 recordings - these seem to get short shrift in the bios I've read, aside from their importance as transitions between post-bop and jazz-rock. It's too bad he didn't continue the book into 1969 because a lot of interesting analysis could have been done on that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 why such a difference in price between hardcover and paperback? Academic sales for school libraries. They know it's a solid book and know folks will pay top dollar for this important book. I read the first chapter last night and it is the real deal, top notch musicology. I'll be digging into it more later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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