chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 do you know the story about this, how did trane end up with cecil taylor on piano for this (coltrane time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 The date was CT's. Coltrane was his guest. The album originally came out as 'Hard Driving Jazz' It later was reissued as Coltrane's date after Trane's name became more well known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 CT talks about this date in A. B. Spellman's book Four Lives in the Bebop Business. The producer, Tom Wilson, chose the sidemen. Cecil was fine with Coltrane, but wanted Ted Curson instead of Kenny Dorham, who was apparently pretty hostile during the session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 tom wilson, isnt that the guy who produced zappa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 tom wilson, isnt that the guy who produced zappa? yep, same person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wilson was black, but he mostly A&R'ed sessions by white artists like Dylan, Simon and Garfunkel—that alone made him stand out in the business. John Hammond was not too pleased when Wilson replaced him as Dylan's producer.He died while still in his forties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 That session was quite a train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wilson's work at Transition. . . da bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Wilson's work at Transition. . . da bomb. and Sun Ra/Walt Dickerson ('Impressions Of A Patch Of Blue') Edited February 5, 2012 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 That session was quite a train wreck. "Train wreck"? As in CRASH!!! BOOM!!! CRUNCH!!! NOBODY WALKS AWAY ALIVE? Not for me.... I hear it as a rather high-level study in friction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 That session was quite a train wreck. "Train wreck"? As in CRASH!!! BOOM!!! CRUNCH!!! NOBODY WALKS AWAY ALIVE? Not for me.... I hear it as a rather high-level study in friction. I like it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wilson also produced the rock group Cyrkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wilson also produced the rock group Cyrkle. of "Red Rubber Ball" fame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 i didnt know he was black, i heard that he was like the countercultural person in straight-Verve, and he was took lots of lsd and during the freak out recording sessions, he never left the orgy room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Wilson also produced the rock group Cyrkle. of "Red Rubber Ball" fame Also "Turn-Down Day"! Edited February 5, 2012 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wilson also produced the rock group Cyrkle. of "Red Rubber Ball" fame Also "Turn-Down Day"! You mean they actually recorded more than one song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Oh yeah! "Turn-Down Day", though, was produced by John Simon, not Tom Wilson, although Paul Simon co-wrote "Red-Rubber Ball". So either way, there's a Simon involved, but not a Wilson. Actually, I don't think there was a Wilson involved at all, Tom or otherwise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Wilson also produced the rock group Cyrkle. of "Red Rubber Ball" fame As kids in Canarsie we made up a parody: Red Rubber Rabbi. All the kids in hebrew school sang it as protest, we hated school so much. We also called the 'morah' (rabbi's wife) the 'moron'. As you might imagine my career as Yeshivaista was mercifully short-lived. Edited February 5, 2012 by fasstrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Oh yeah! "Turn-Down Day", though, was produced by John Simon, not Tom Wilson, although Paul Simon co-wrote "Red-Rubber Ball". So either way, there's a Simon involved, but not a Wilson. Actually, I don't think there was a Wilson involved at all, Tom or otherwise! Not to be a thread blender, but Cyrkle isn't a bad example of sunshine pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 i didnt know he was black, i heard that he was like the countercultural person in straight-Verve, and he was took lots of lsd and during the freak out recording sessions, he never left the orgy room Tom Wilson is the guy in the front row on the far left: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Chewy: "i didnt know he was black, i heard that he was like the countercultural person in straight-Verve, and he was took lots of lsd and during the freak out recording sessions, he never left the orgy room." You need to stop reading old copies of The Reader's Digest. BTW, I vaguely recall hearing that he died from suicide. Does anyone else remember hearing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Oh yeah! "Turn-Down Day", though, was produced by John Simon, not Tom Wilson, although Paul Simon co-wrote "Red-Rubber Ball". So either way, there's a Simon involved, but not a Wilson. Actually, I don't think there was a Wilson involved at all, Tom or otherwise! Not to be a thread blender, but Cyrkle isn't a bad example of sunshine pop. Both Dawes and Danneman became professional jingle writers after The Cyrkle disbanded. Dawes later wrote the famous "plop plop fizz fizz" jingle for Alka-Seltzer. Danneman wrote jingles for Continental Airlines and Swanson Foods. He penned the original 7Up Uncola song. In 1977, Dawes produced Foghat. [source: Wikipedia] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 And let's not forget the Velvet Underground I think he produced the first three LP's, including the "Banana" cover, even though that's been credited to Andy Warhol (he had very little to do with the production) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 actually, I was confusing Wilson with Simon. Sorry, but I always liked Cyrkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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