Big Al Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 So I went to AMG after seeing Chuck Nessa's avatar of Von Freeman's Have No Fear, and of course there's no information. But there is information about Serenade and Blues at AMG. Are either of these in print and available anywhere? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wheel Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Both are well worth the cash. I believe you can still get both of these directly from Chuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Both are well worth the cash. I believe you can still get both of these directly from Chuck. Oh yeah...... (I could really use a "dunce-cap" smilie right now......) Chuck, any order form I need to fill out or anything? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 You can order from me with a MC or Visa. If you want more info and other sources contact me at cnessa@earthlink.net . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out2Lunch Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 I've been on a Von Freeman jones for the past few weeks and both of these cds are great listening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Goes w/o saying that Von is a BAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDD muthaphukker. Just picked up THE IMPROVISER and to say that I'm forever going to have to rethink "Blue Bossa" is quite the understatement. The Nessa sides are essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 JSngry...hmmm. There used to be a guy that posted here by that handle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 JSngry...hmmm. There used to be a guy that posted here by that handle... I got a few minutes free, finally. It's good to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Welcome back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 (edited) Can't be any good. Bunch of white guys nobody's ever heard of. That must be why I'm "pushing" it. AND pay no attention to the next recording I did with them. The addition of Charles Tyler was a crass commercial step by a desperate record producer. I'm sure it is just a coincidence ECM picked 'em up after me. Let me see... ECM records Bowie, AEC, Leo, Roscoe, Hal after I do - might there be a pattern here? Seriously, Hal's subsequent death was a big blow for lots of fans and friends. Edited May 7, 2003 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 You know I've not played any Freeman for years. I'm just about dust off Have No Fear. Some of these threads make me dig really deep into the collection. That has to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Does Chuck's change of avatar mean that we can now buy the Warne Marsh , Nessa session? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Not 'til late in the year. My daughter (art director) is working on the graphics so I put it up. As Chaney said in another thread, "a tease". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffpeterson Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 how about the von freeman live date recently released? sounds pretty good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 I spun Doin' It Right Now tonight, while my wife and I put up some early X-mas decorations. While not on Chuck's label, it's a fine slab of Von. The Koch reissue has unusally fine (HDCD) sound, and this adds to the already fine musicianship on exhibit. My wife actually got into the music, and asked me twice "Who is this?" I already liked this album, but with those unsolicited inquiries, I now have to give this one a hearty all over again. Yanow Says: This Koch CD reissues an Atlantic LP, tenor saxophonist Von Freeman's debut on record. Freeman, who was almost 50 at the time, was obscure because he lived in Chicago rather than New York and because he had an unusual tone that took a bit of time to get used to. However, he was well-known in Chicago, and Rahsaan Roland Kirk went out of his way to record Freeman, producing this album. Joined by pianist John Young, bassist Sam Jones, and drummer Jimmy Cobb, Freeman performs five originals, a haunting version of "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face," "Lost in a Fog," and "Sweet and Lovely." Von Freeman has since had higher visibility in jazz without compromising his sound or his ability to swing in his own fashion. Sound Sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Did you compare with the LP? My copy has the usual slightly muffled Atlantic LP sound of the 1970's - if the CD improved on this, I would upgrade. Heartily recommend the Nessas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Goes w/o saying that Von is a BAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDD muthaphukker. Just picked up THE IMPROVISER and to say that I'm forever going to have to rethink "Blue Bossa" is quite the understatement. The Nessa sides are essential. Yeah, that's an eye opener. I wasn't sure I even liked it the first 4-5 times that I listened to it. However, I couldn't turn it off! It has grown on me. Not bad for a guy who was puhing eighty at the time it was recorded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Mike, I don't have the vinyl, but the sound on the Koch reissue really is nice. When Koch first started reissuing Atlantic sessions (using high definition compatible digital, or HDCD, encoding), they seemed to hit a lot of home-runs. The Konitz/Marsh album sounds amazing, and so does Art Farmer's To Sweden With Love, to name just two. A disc encoded with HDCD will, of course, play on any player, and I'm not really sure that it matters all that much if your player does, or does not, have this capability for playback. Mine happens to, but I think I just like it when the little red light comes on! (Brubeck's Time Out, strangely, makes the HDCD red light come on, but there's no indication on the packaging that this encoding was used.) Mainly, as usual, it's best to just leave it at: this is a fine album. Will have to check out the Nessa release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 (edited) Trivia question: Who, right here (meaning someone on this very board), has recorded with Von Freeman?? (Also possibly the only guy on this board that's every played with him too, though I'm not 100% sure of that one.) B) PS: The guy who recorded with Von can't answer this question, so keep your mouth shut. (Boy, now wouldn't THAT be cheating!!! ) Edited December 2, 2003 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 The artist: The albums: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Mike, I don't have the vinyl, but the sound on the Koch reissue really is nice. When Koch first started reissuing Atlantic sessions (using high definition compatible digital, or HDCD, encoding), they seemed to hit a lot of home-runs. Thanks, late, sounds very insteresting. Never had any problems before with HDCDs, although my player has no little red light ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Any thoughts Paul, on playing with Von?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Any thoughts Paul, on playing with Von?? I got to hang with Vonski multiple times while I lived in Chicago through most of the 90s- sometimes down south at the "Apartment" jams, where Von held court. Those sessions were often full of long winded half-hour F blues; Von would start things off with a few choice choruses and then give way to the long line of participants- some could play, some couldn't but did anyway. Von welcomed them all with a big smile. For me, the better Von hangs were the occasions when he would venture north to the Green Mill and play with the quintet I was working with. That gig was the greatest- every Wednesday for SEVEN YEARS! An opportunity to play way-too-long solos and explore some territory beyond the known envelope. I sure miss that gig- I doubt I'll ever get to do something that hip again. Those Steeplechase sides were recorded with a couple mikes and a digital recorder. Pretty informal jam-type format, usually head-and-solos. I truly felt like I was in the presence of greatness- when Von would get rolling on a solo, you'd be treated to a stream-of-consciousness sermon combining bebop, hardbop, soul and free jazz, all within one solo. A history of jazz. He is one of those who can truly take his time and play a long solo that very gradually builds and roars and starts over, much like I would expect from Jug or Stitt at a live gig. When Vonski was "on", the results, to me, rivaled some of Rollins' greatest late 50s- 60s moments, and that is not a compliment I bestow very often. You know how sometimes you hear something so good and so right it just makes you laugh? This magic didn't happen every time he played, but I never heard him have a bad night. And he's a gem of a person- always made you feel good about yourself, very supportive. He always made me play better. And he do love the ladies! I was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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