Rooster_Ties Posted August 2, 2018 Report Posted August 2, 2018 Two good examples I can think of are "Nardis" (Miles Davis), and "The Rumproller" (Andrew Hill). Best known in recordings by Bill Evans (dozens!), and the later for Lee Morgan. But this extensive article about "Nardis" (that someone posted recently to /r/jazz on Reddit), claims one other tune that Miles wrote but never recorded... https://believermag.com/broken-time/ Specifically, and supposedly: "Miles never recorded the tune ["Nardis"] himself—the fate suffered by another of his originals, “Mimosa,” recorded once by Herbie Hancock [on Inventions and Dimensions for BN in 1963] and never heard from again." Thing is, I can't seem to find any(?) other references on-line to Miles having written "Mimosa" (for Herbie). Is there anything to this?? But then rather than start a topic just about that one tune in question, I thought I'd broaden it a bit -- to any more of these sorts of instances, particularly musicians of any sort of real renown (who recorded a lot), but who 'gave' tunes to others. Quote
bertrand Posted August 2, 2018 Report Posted August 2, 2018 Four by Wayne off the top of my head: Running Brook, Fire, Venus di Mildew, Edda. One more: Utopia, recently recorded by Wallace Toney. Oh, and Wayne wrote two pieces for Lovano/Douglas. Booker Little: Tray of Silver Joe Henderson: Soulin' Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 3, 2018 Report Posted August 3, 2018 Here's a list of Harold Ousley tunes that others have recorded. He made hardly any albums as a leader, so MOST of what he wrote was recorded by others. 1. And that I am so in love – Horace Parlan, Bennie Green 2. Haitian lady – Montego Joe, Jack Mcduff, Grassella Oliphant, Willie Bobo 3. Return of the Prodigal Son – Freddie Hubbard, Stanley Turrentine, George Benson, Ray Bryant, lots more 4. Win lose or draw – Willis Jackson, Lou Donaldson 5. The latter days – Grassella Oliphant 6. One for the masses – Grassella Oliphant 7. The descendant – Grassella Oliphant 8. Uptown hours – Grassella Oliphant 9. Mrs O – Grassella Oliphant 10. Son of man – Houston Person 11. Pretty please – Houston Person 12. Hope I can love again – Houston Person 13. Sassie lassie – Lou Donaldson 14. The kid - Lou Donaldson 15. Dapper Dan - Lou Donaldson 16. The people’s choice – Gene Ammons/Sonny Stitt, Ellery Eskelin 17. Pleasant moments – Jack McDuff 18. The regulars – Red Holloway 19. Minor truth – George Benson 20. Thunder walk – George Benson 21. Elation – Willie Bobo, Bobby Shew 22. Minor revelation –Bennie Green 23. Summer melody – Bernard Purdie 24. That’s when we thought of love - Jack McDuff 25 So never leave my love - Clarence Wheeler MG Quote
mikeweil Posted August 4, 2018 Report Posted August 4, 2018 There's a tune by Joe Henderson, "Soulin'", on Duke Pearson's Atlantic LP "Prairie Dog", that Joe himself never recorded. And Jobete, the Motown publisher, is named! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 11, 2018 Report Posted August 11, 2018 Did Monk ever record his set break theme? Quote
mikeweil Posted August 11, 2018 Report Posted August 11, 2018 Another one: "Hey Ho", on Herbie Mann's Atlantic LP "The Beat Goes On", written by one Herbie ............. Hancock! Very simple tune, from his early attempts at trying to be "funky", I guess. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 11, 2018 Report Posted August 11, 2018 Benny Golson's 'Prelude', not recorded by him, was recorded by Jack McDuff, but Golson arranged and directed it. Does that count? MG If so, ditto for 'From the bottom up', also recorded by McDuff. OK, here's another. The name Henry Glover is not one to conjure with as a jazz musician, but he played in bands led by Don Redman, Lucky Millinder and Buddy Johnson in the forties, Sonny Thompson & others in the fifties, and was on a Sonny Stitt session in the sixties. He's MUCH better known as a producer for King Records. And he wrote 'Drown in my own tears', but never recorded it, though he probably produced recordings of it. OK, it started off as a blues, but there are numerous jazz recordings of it. MG Quote
JSngry Posted August 11, 2018 Report Posted August 11, 2018 Thinking back to high school stage band days, we did this Benny Golson tune that I think he wrote just for stage band sales. And really, as small town high-schooly as we were, I think we played it better than these guys (whoever they are). If you really want to dig into history (and I don't), I think you might find some more of these type things, charts written for the market but never really performed outside of that market. Don Sebesky had a deal with Alfred Music and had all kinds of titles, but maybe all of them had been recorded, no matter how obscurely, like Meet A Cheeta, finding this was a toall "wh knew" for be, becuase we found it corny even back then, neer figured it was a "real" chart, but there it was.. Oh yeah, we played on by John LaPorta called "Diggin' ", can't find a trace of it on the internets, at least not quickly. Published through Berklee, iirc. Quote
miles65 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 To the best of my knowlege James P. Johnson never recorded 'Charleston' Quote
medjuck Posted August 12, 2018 Report Posted August 12, 2018 3 hours ago, miles65 said: To the best of my knowlege James P. Johnson never recorded 'Charleston' Ahhh.... that explains why I've never seen his recording of it. Quote
Gheorghe Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 On 11.08.2018 at 4:19 PM, Teasing the Korean said: Did Monk ever record his set break theme? You are thinking about 52´nd Street Theme ? Yes really, I always wondered if it was composed by Monk. It often happens that it´s hard to check out who originally composed those bop tunes. It´s possible that 52`nd Street Theme originally was at a slower pace. Usually it´s played very fast, like "Salt Peanuts" or "Dizzy Atmosphere".....at a speed that wouldn´t have fitted to Monk..... Quote
JSngry Posted August 20, 2018 Report Posted August 20, 2018 Monk used "Epistrophy" as his own break tune? Quote
Gheorghe Posted August 21, 2018 Report Posted August 21, 2018 I´ve forgotten about Monk´s Epistrophy, since I think it was recorded, first with Milt Jackson in 1948 and later on serveral live recordings . That´s why I thought about 52´nd Street Theme since it was a set break tune used by many other musicians (we used it too for some time) but at least as I know , no recording evidence with Monk. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 21, 2018 Report Posted August 21, 2018 Not a name to conjure with but Khalid (Kenneth) Moss - who played organ on a couple of Rusty Bryant albums - wrote two tunes that Groove Holmes recorded. They were 'Dancing in the sun' and 'Highway of life', both of which were on the 'Dancing in the sun' LP on Versatile. MG Quote
sgcim Posted October 6, 2018 Report Posted October 6, 2018 I've never been able to find a recording of Rene's Theme played by its composer, Rene Thomas. Larry Coryell and John MacLaughlin played an acoustic guitar duo version of it on Coyell's 'Spaces', but I've got all of Thomas' recordings as a leader, and most of his sideman things with Getz, Jaspar , Rollins, and Chet Baker, but RT never turned up. Quote
Shrdlu Posted January 1, 2019 Report Posted January 1, 2019 I feel that John's first recording of "Tin Tin Deo" should have been with that big band that recorded "Ow!", "Oop Pop A Daa" etc. Oscar recorded an electric version of that on those "Exclusively For My Friends" sessions in the 60s. Quote
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