Charles Mingus, Box Seats at Newport: Legit?

[Guy Berger]

A label called “Sounds of Yesteryear” has issued Mingus’s 1959/1971 Newport performances. Is this a legit label or not?

The title of this CD is appropriate as it does seem to give the listener their own box seat at two sessions of performances by the great jazz legend Charles Mingus and his sextet at the Newport Jazz Festival. Separated by twelve years (1959 and 1971) and with different lineups it will make interesting listening for the jazz enthusiast to follow the development of the two sextets. For the casual listener an audio treat. Tracks: 1. Freebody Park, Newport RI, July 4, 1959: Introduction by Willis Conover 2. lntroduction by Charles Mingus 3. Shuffle Stop Boogie 4. Box Seats At Newport 5. Diane 6. Gunslinging Bird 7. Festival Field, Newport RI July 3, 1971: Introduction by George Wein Father Norman O’ Connor and Charles Mingus 8. Peggy’s Blue Skylight 9. Pithecanthropus Erectus 10. Cocktails For Two 11. O. P.12. Sign Off by Father Norman O’Connor

[kh1958]

That seems highly doubtful.

[JSngry]

Shows have been circulating for a while now. Don't buy this crap. Do get it though.

[sonnymax]

From the Newport Jazz archive: Charles Mingus Live at Newport Jazz 1959

[mhatta]

Seems to be UK-based.

https://www.discogs.com/ja/label/599879-Sounds-Of-Yester-Year

BTW, "Gunslinging Bird" from 1959 and "Pithecanthropus Erectus" from 1971 Newport are the very best renditions of these tunes (better than studio recordings).  I hope someday they are released officially... 

[Ken Dryden]

Sounds of Yesteryear also sells CDRs, not CDs. A cheapskate operation like Acrobat.

[miles65]

It is very easy to find and download those Newport sets as one file. Don't know if it is a legal site so i won't post a link.

After all those Sony Miles Davis bootleg sets. To celebrate Mingus' 100 birthday they might consider 'The Charles Mingus Newport concerts'. Beside the 1956-1959-1971 concerts there were also concerts in 1955 and 1962.

 

[felser]

3 hours ago, Ken Dryden said:

Sounds of Yesteryear also sells CDRs, not CDs. A cheapskate operation like Acrobat.

What Acrobat does really well is curation (compilation and documentation).  Honest question - what is the actual downside of having a CDr rather than a CD?  Asked that before in a different thread, and never got an answer that seemed very compelling.

[T.D.]

22 minutes ago, felser said:

What Acrobat does really well is curation (compilation and documentation).  Honest question - what is the actual downside of having a CDr rather than a CD?  Asked that before in a different thread, and never got an answer that seemed very compelling.

Have wondered myself. ISTR the failure rate of CD-R being the main drawback.

I have owned one CD-R that became unreadable / unplayable after 5 or 6 years. Can't draw conclusions due to small sample size, I only regularly play a dozen or fewer CD-R.

[Ken Dryden]

Every technical article I’ve read says that CDRs lack a protective layer that manufactured CDs have. My experience has always been total failure when a CDR develops problems, I’ve never had that issue with a CD.

[T.D.]

Thanks. I never researched the issue (don't trust "audiophile" sources, which is where I expected most coverage), but it wasn't hard to find a Library of Congress link:

https://www.loc.gov/preservation/scientists/projects/cd-r_dvd-r_rw_longevity.html

[Gheorghe]

I´ve read somewhere that at Newport 1977 Mingus presented an augmented band that played "Cumbia", and it had bassoon and oboe like on the studio production, and there was also a duo set of Mingus with Neloms, where Mingus played a lot of bowed solos. THIS would be of interest, 

[Dub Modal]

I've got no problem with CD-Rs if it's advertised as such. I can make an informed decision at that point. Unfortunately most are marketed as CDs, and that's the problem from my POV.