Teasing the Korean Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 In the 1990s, I picked up the vinyl OJC reissue of Mongo Santamaria's Yambu, which has one of the greatest album covers of all time. It doesn't appear that this was reissued on CD. (Correct me if I am wrong.) This has me wondering: Were there significant numbers of OJC LP reissues that did not make it to CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Definitely not significant, no. Actually this may be the first instance of this I've seen. In a back of the envelope sense, there were a few hundred or less OJC LPs and many hundreds, if not thousands, of OJC CDs, plus the many later twofer/compilation CDs that cleaned up a lot of the remainder of the Prestige, Fantasy, and Riverside catalogs in particular (there are 2 or 3 of these covering Mongo Santamaria). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Wide Open Spaces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 In my experience, there were very few OJC LPs that failed to make it to CD. As Colin mentioned, some only showed up on a 2 LPs on 1 CD compilation, but most all of them came out one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 One tune omitted: https://www.discogs.com/release/4091980-Mongo-Santamaria-Afro-Roots The files seem available online as MP3 on amazon, on last.fm etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, jazzbo said: One tune omitted: https://www.discogs.com/release/4091980-Mongo-Santamaria-Afro-Roots The files seem available online as MP3 on amazon, on last.fm etc. Well now I feel especially like an idiot, one because I said this doesn't exist and two because I .... have .. it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, jazzbo said: One tune omitted... Has "Lover" been restored to circulation somehow? Or is this still its only issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JSngry said: Has "Lover" been restored to circulation somehow? Or is this still its only issue? It seems that "Lover" was added to that Prestige LP version from the original Swingville track list of 5 and this possibly has not been reconstructed as an official OJC or Concord release since. Fresh Sound included it with the Swingville material on this 2 cd reissue: https://www.discogs.com/release/10550435-Coleman-Hawkins-Tommy-Flanagan-Coleman-Hawkins-Tommy-Flanagan Edited April 19, 2022 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 I'll not consider Fresh Sounds official, although it certainly does exist in some realm. But bad on whoever did the OJC of that one. That was a pretty unnecessary fuckup imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) Definitely a missed opportunity, when they did not add "Lover" to the OJC CD. It's not the only CD where they loused up. Seems like the Fresh Sound CD is the only CD reissue of the complete session. Edited April 19, 2022 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, JSngry said: I'll not consider Fresh Sounds official. Nor did or would I. These sort of questions are easily answered on Discogs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, jazzbo said: One tune omitted: https://www.discogs.com/release/4091980-Mongo-Santamaria-Afro-Roots The files seem available online as MP3 on amazon, on last.fm etc. Ah, I have been forgetting about 70s twofers that got reissued as CDs. This was a missed opportunity. The cover art of Yambu is at least half of the attraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Mongo Santamaria's Yambu ... which has one of the greatest album covers of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 hours ago, JSngry said: Wide Open Spaces Very late in the game for OJC's (2002), but it did finally make it. https://www.discogs.com/release/7767755-James-Clay-David-Fathead-Newman-The-Sound-Of-The-Wide-Open-Spaces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Late said: This was framed and displayed in our first tiki room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 20, 2022 Report Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 hours ago, felser said: Very late in the game for OJC's (2002), but it did finally make it. https://www.discogs.com/release/7767755-James-Clay-David-Fathead-Newman-The-Sound-Of-The-Wide-Open-Spaces Thank god! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Thanks all. So it appears that virtually all of the OJC LP reissues made it to CD in some form or other, although certain tracks here or there needed to be deleted to fit two albums on one CD, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) That seems to be the case. Fantasy made the same mistake with other compilations CDs, just to save a few bucks in royalties and avoid two CD sets. One of the biggest disasters is the Jaki Byard Prestige compilation Solo/With Strings!, which intermingles tracks from the two separate LPs, ruining the listening experience, plus dropping "Hello, Young Lovers" from the Solo LP. Edited April 21, 2022 by Ken Dryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I think there are a few that didn't make it to CD. Didn't we used to have a list of them somewhere around here? I don't think this Red Rodney LP was ever issued on CD... even in Japan: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, bresna said: I think there are a few that didn't make it to CD. Didn't we used to have a list of them somewhere around here? I don't think this Red Rodney LP was ever issued on CD... even in Japan: That one, yeah. also, I don't think that this one made even OJC LP, much less CD: nor this one: nor this either: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 The Red Rodney LP on Fantasy did make it to CD. See below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 For those not opposed to the Fresh Sound label, thi is an outstanding set. Contains McBrowne/Four Souls debut, na "Eastern Lights", and the Gloria Smythe album, so 3LPs on 2 CD's.: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I wonder if Cannonball Adderley got some of those "A Cannonball Adderley Production" Riverside tapes like he did a few of his own dates? Maybe that's why OJC hasn't reissued them? Capitol won't issue them, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I've never ever heard this one: and what about the 2nd by this band: Never made it to OJC LP or CD, correct? But I think that Jorgie Hoglowls has put them out in some issue. So, there are still gaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, JSngry said: I've never ever heard this one: Never made it to OJC LP or CD, correct? But I think that Jorgie Hoglowls has put them out in some issue. So, there are still gaps. Yep. Concord should let him run their reissues. He knows what he's doing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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