Mosaic JATP 1950s Box

[miles65]

After only 3 weeks my set left customs. Who knows I might get it next week. It's a whole 59 Km from The Hague to Haarlem.

[miles65]

Yes it arrived.

[miles65]

Just spinning the first disc.

About the foto on page 3 of the book. The woman is Pia Beck the Dutch boogie pianist/singer/entertainer. The man talking to Norman Granz  I am 99% certain is Lou van Rees the dutch impresario. Het got a lot of greats to the Netherlands like Marlene Dietrich and Frank Sinatra.

[tranemonk]

On 3/18/2023 at 11:21 AM, sidewinder said:

Review of the set on the London Jazz News site..

https://londonjazznews.com/2023/03/18/classic-jazz-at-the-philharmonic-jam-sessions-1950-1957/

Still waiting..🙁

Very nice.

[sidewinder]

On 3/20/2023 at 7:23 PM, sidewinder said:

My shipment now declared officially ‘MIA’ and Mosaic have shipped out a replacement. Looking forward !

Several weeks hence my set is now tracking and at the USPS distribution centre so who knows, I might even get it..🙄

[sidewinder]

On 4/6/2023 at 4:17 PM, sidewinder said:

Several weeks hence my set is now tracking and at the USPS distribution centre so who knows, I might even get it..🙄

Now finally landed in the UK. What a saga !

[king ubu]

Finally checked all art again, sent a mail a few days ago and received replacement tray cards and booklets 👍

[JSngry]

What's the consensus on this one? Essential or just fun?

I'm on the fence, and already have had a lot of fun in my life?

Or more to the point, how much Hawk is there, and how much Pres?

[street singer]

Not much discussion about this one since its release. Hardly any at all, actually...

Now that it's on Last Chance, I'm trying to decide if it's something I need. Any thoughts from those who have the set? 

(It's also on sale right now, for those who are wanting to pick it up before it's gone...)

[jazzbo]

I suppose that most of my comments are on posts in the listening thread as I was listening. I really like this set. The mastering is excellent. I'm a big fan of this period of jazz and there are great performances.

[JSngry]

31 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

I suppose that most of my comments are on posts in the listening thread as I was listening. I really like this set. The mastering is excellent. I'm a big fan of this period of jazz and there are great performances.

How much Hawk? how much Pres? And How much Roy?

[jazzbo]

The answers are here:

https://www.mosaicrecords.com/product/classic-jazz-at-the-philharmonic-jam-sessions-1950-1957-mosaic-records/

(A) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Harry Edison (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Hank Jones (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
Carnegie Hall, NYC, September 16, 1950
JC-1 Norgran Blues Norgran MG JC #1 – Side I
JC-1 Lady Be Good –
JC-1-Side-2 I Don’t Stand A Ghost
Of A Chance With You -1 Norgran MG JC #1 – Side II
JC-1-Side-2 Indiana –

-1 omit Phillips.

Note: The original tape log indicates that these were initially recorded on acetate discs with transfers onto tape dubbed on June 24, 1954. Norgran Blues made up sides 1 & 2; Lady Be Good on sides 3 & 4; I Don’t Stand A Ghost Of A Chance With You on sides 5 & 6; and Indiana on sides 7 & 8.
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(B) THE COLEMAN HAWKINS SET: Coleman Hawkins (ts), Hank Jones (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (A).
JC-1-Side-4 Yesterdays Norgran MG JC #1 – Side IV
JC-1-Side-4 Hawk’s Tune (Disorder At The Border) –
JC-1-Side-4 Stuffy –

Note: According to the Verve LP re-issue of this material, Bob Porter notes that three other titles might have been recorded but they no longer exist.
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(C) THE BUDDY RICH TRIO: Hank Jones (p), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (A).
JC-1-Side-4 Carnegie Blues (Air Mail Special) Norgran MG JC #1 – Side IV
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(D) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Benny Carter (as), Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Barney Kessel (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
Carnegie Hall, NYC, September 13, 1952
MGC 1064 1F Jam Session Blues Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. I
MGC 1065 1F The Trumpet Battle Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. II
MGC 1065 1F The Ballad Medley:
I Can’t Get Started (LY)
Summertime (CS)
Sweet Lorraine (FP)
It’s The Talk Of The Town (RE)
Cocktails For Two (BC) –
MGC 1066 1F Cotton Tail Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. III
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(E) THE GENE KRUPA TRIO: Willie Smith (as), Hank Jones (p), Gene Krupa (d).
same concert as (D).
MGC 1068 1F Idaho Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. V
MGC 1068 1F Sophisticated Lady –
MGC 1068 1F Flyin’ Home –
MGC 1069 1F Drum Boogie Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. VI
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(F) THE DRUM BATTLE: Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (D).
MGC 1069 1F The Drum Battle Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. VI
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(G) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Benny Carter (as), Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Barney Kessel (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa (d), Ella Fitzgerald (vcl).
same concert as (D).
MGC 1069 1F Perdido (EF-vcl) Clef / Mer MG Vol. 15 – Pt. VI

Note: The original release of Clef Vol. 15 had edited Ella Fitzgerald’s vocal on Perdido since she was still under contract to Decca at the time. The complete performance was issued for the first time in 1999 on The Drum Battle released on Verve 314-559-810-2 (CD).
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(H) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Benny Carter, Willie Smith (as), Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts), Oscar Peterson (p, org), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Gene Krupa (d).
Bushnell Memorial Auditorium,
Hartford, Ct., prob. September 11, 1953
Talk and National Anthem previously unissued
Vol-16-PT-7 Concert Blues (Pt. I) Clef MG Vol. 16 (10”)
Vol-16-PT-8 Concert Blues (Pt. II) –

Note: This 10” LP was a “bonus” LP within the Vol. 16 boxed set. The on-stage chatter and instructions with Norman Granz and various musicians plus the playing of the National Anthem, as noted, are previously unreleased and are heard at the end of Disc II.
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(I) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Benny Carter, Willie Smith (as), Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), J.C. Heard (d).
Carnegie Hall, NYC, September 19, 1953
Vol-16-Side-1 Cool Blues Clef MG Vol. 16 – Pt. I
Vol-16-Side-2 Ballad Medley: Clef MG Vol. 16 – Pt. II
September Song (BH)
Someone To Watch Over Me (BW)
Flamingo (BC)
I Can’t Get Started (RE)
Makin’ Whoopee (FP)
Young Man With A Horn (WS)
Embraceable You (CS)

Note: Some discographies list Imagination as one of the ballad numbers but this has not surfaced on tape and is suspect to have even been performed.
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(J) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), J.C. Heard (d).
same concert as (I).
Vol-16-Side-3 The Challenges (Cotton Tail) Clef MG Vol. 16 – Pt. III

Note: Although listed as a separate title on the label, The Drum Solo is basically J.C. Heard’s drum solo from The Challenges and not a new track. Some discographies list The Drum Solo as The Drum Battle.
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(K) LESTER YOUNG QUINTET: Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), J.C. Heard (d).
same concert as (I).
Vol-16-Side-5 Lester’s Blues (Up N’ Adam) Clef MG Vol. 16 – Part V
Vol-16-Side-5 I Cover The Waterfront –
Vol-16-Side-5 Lester Gambols (Lester Leaps In) –
________________________________________________________________________ (L) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Benny Carter, Willie Smith (as), Flip Phillips, Ben Webster, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), J.C. Heard (d).
same concert as (I).
Vol-16-Side-5 One O’ Clock Jump Clef MG Vol. 16 – Part V

Note: Some discographies add Gene Krupa to One O’Clock Jump.

At about 0:10 into this track, there is a rough edit and what sounds like Ella Ftizgerald’s voice. It is very possible that this is another one of the edits Norman Granz had to perform since Fitzgerald still was under a contractual obligation to Decca Records.
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(M) GENE KRUPA TRIO: Benny Carter (as), Oscar Peterson (p), Gene Krupa (d).
same concert as (I).
Vol-16-Side-6 Indiana Clef MG Vol. 16 – Part VI
Vol-16-Side-6 Somebody Loves Me –
Vol-16-Side-6 Laura –
Vol-16-Side-6 Stompin’ At The Savoy –
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(N) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Charlie Shavers (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Benny Carter, Willie Smith (as), Flip Phillips, Ben Webster, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Gene Krupa, J.C. Heard (d).
same concert as (I).
Vol-16-Side-6 Flying Home Clef MG Vol. 16 – Part VI

Note: Listed in discographies is a performance titled The Blues (with Eldridge, Webster, Peterson, Ellis, Brown and Krupa) that was issued on Vol. 16. However, it is not on the original Clef set.
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(O) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp), Bill Harris (tb), Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Louie Bellson (d).
Bushnell Memorial Auditorium,
Hartford, Ct., September 17, 1954
Vol-17-PT 1 Jazz Concert Blues Clef MG Vol. 17 – Side 1
Vol-17-2 The Challenges Clef MG Vol. 17 – Side 2
Vol-17-2 Ballad Medley:
The Man I Love (RE)
Tenderly (BW)
Imagination (BH)
I’ll Never Be The Same (FP)
Star Dust (DG) –
Vol-17-PT 3 Drum Solo -1 Clef MG Vol. 17 – Side 3

-1 Louis Bellson’s drum solo is preceded by Dizzy Gillespie’s composition Ow although it is not noted on the original Clef LP.
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(P) THE JATP QUINTET: Buddy DeFranco (cl), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (O).
Vol-17-P 4 It’s Only A Paper Moon Clef MG Vol. 17 – Side 4
Vol-17-Pt. 4 Easy Living –
Vol-17-Pt. 5 I’ll Remember April Clef MG Vol. 17 – Side 5
Vol-17-Pt. 5 Autumn Leaves –
Vol-17-Pt. 5 Now’s The Time –
Vol-17-Pt. 5 Air Mail Special –
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(Q) THE JATP SEXTET: Buddy DeFranco (cl), Lionel Hampton (vib, d), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (O).
Vol-17-Pt. 6 How High The Moon Clef MG Vol. 17 – Side 6
Vol-17-Pt. 6 Body And Soul –
Vol-17-Pt. 6 Flying Home –
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(R) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp), Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
Opera House, Chicago, October 2, 1955
11,646 The Blues Clef MG Vol. 11 – Side 1

Note: For the entire Chicago Opera House concert, discographies list Clef MG Vol. 18 as the initial release. However, this set was never issued.
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(S) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Dizzy Gillespie (tp), Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (R)
11,646 The Modern Set Clef MG Vol. 11 – Side 1
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(T) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge (tp), Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (R)
11,647 The Swing Set Clef MG Vol. 11 – Side 2
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(U) NORMAN GRANZ’ JAZZ AT THE PHILHARMONIC: Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp), Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
same concert as (R).
11,647 Ballad Medley:
I Didn’t Know What Time It Was (LY)
All Of Me (FP)
Tenderly (IJ)
I Can’t Get Started (RE)
My Old Flame (DG) Clef MG Vol. 11 – Side 2
11,647 Buddy Rich’s Explosion -1 –

-1 The riff that starts off Buddy Rich’s Explosion is Count Basie’s The King.
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(V) JAM SESSION: Roy Eldridge, Harry “Sweets” Edison (tp), Flip Phillips, Illinois Jacquet (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Buddy Rich (d).
Hollywood Bowl, LA, August 15, 1956
50,384 Honeysuckle Rose Verve MG V-8231-2 – Side 1
50,384 The Ballad Medley: –
I Can’t Get Started (RE)
If I Had You (HE)
I’ve Got The World On A String (FP)
50,385 Jumpin’ At The Woodside Verve MG V-8231-2 – Side 2
50,385 Drum Solo –
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(W) JATP ALL STARS: Sonny Stitt (as), Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Jo Jones (d).
Civic Opera House, Chicago, September 29, 1957
The Slow Blues previously unissued
Merry-Go-Round –
SR 1284 Ballad Medley:
Robbins Nest (IJ)
Polka Dots And Moonbeams (LY)
Can’t We Be Friends (FP) Verve 825 101-1
Drum solo previously unissued

Note: Discographies list Verve MGVS-6029 (LP), a Stereo release of The JATP All Stars At The Opera House, as being released with the contents of the above. However, a copy of this LP has yet to be confirmed to exist and is suspect to have ever been released.

Verve 825 101-1 dates this as October 19, 1957.
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(X) COLEMAN HAWKINS-ROY ELDRIDGE: Roy Eldridge (tp), Coleman Hawkins (ts), John Lewis (p), Percy Heath (b), Connie Kay (d). same concert as (W).
Bean Stalkin’ Verve MGVS 6028
The Nearness Of You -1 –
Time On My Hands -2 –
The Walker –
Tea For Two Verve MGV 8266
Blue Moon -1 –
Cocktails For Two -2 –
Kerry –

-1 omit Hawkins
-2 omit Eldridge

Note: Although MGV 8266 was released in Mono, the original tapes are in Stereo.
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(Y) THE STAN GETZ AND J.J. JOHNSON SET: Stan Getz (ts), J.J. Johnson (tb), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Connie Kay (d).
same concert as (W).
Billie’s Bounce Verve MGVS 6027
My Funny Valentine –
Crazy Rhythm –
It Never Entered My Mind -1 –
Blues In The Closet –

-1 omit Johnson.
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(Z) JATP ALL STARS: Roy Eldridge (tp), J.J. Johnson (tb), Stan Getz, Coleman Hawkins (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Ray Brown (b), Connie Kay (d).
same concert as (W).
Stuffy previously unissued
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(AA) ELLA FITZGERALD: Roy Eldridge (tp), J. J. Johnson (tb), Sonny Stitt (as), Lester Young, Illinois Jacquet, Coleman Hawkins, Stan Getz, Flip Phillips (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Connie Kay (d), Ella Fitzgerald (vcl).
same concert as (W).
Stompin’ At The Savoy (EF-vcl) Verve MGVS 6026
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(BB) JATP ALL STARS: Sonny Stitt (as), Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips, Lester Young (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Ray Brown (b), Jo Jones (d).
Shrine Auditorium, LA, October 9, 1957
The Slow Blues Verve MGV 8267
Merry-Go-Round –
The Ballad Medley:
This Is Always (SS)
Robbins Nest (IJ)
Polka Dots And Moonbeams (LY)
Can’t We Be Friends (FP) –
Drum solo –

Note: Earliest editions of Verve MGV 8267 had The Slow Blues and Merry-Go-Round on Side-A and The Ballad Medley in addition to the Jo Jones drum solo on Side-B. The more commonly found release, also from 1958, coupled The Slow Blues and Merry-Go-Round on Side-A with Stuffy on Side-B.
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(CC) COLEMAN HAWKINS-ROY ELDRIDGE: Roy Eldridge (tp), Coleman Hawkins (ts), John Lewis (p), Percy Heath (b), Connie Kay (d).
same concert as (BB).
Bean Stalkin’ Verve MGV 8266
I Can’t Get Started -1 –
Time On My Hands -2 –
The Walker –

-1 omit Hawkins
-2 omit Eldridge
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(DD) THE STAN GETZ AND J.J. JOHNSON SET: Stan Getz (ts), J.J. Johnson (tb), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (el-g), Percy Heath (b), Connie Kay (d).
same concert as (BB).
Billie’s Bounce Verve MGV 8265
My Funny Valentine –
Crazy Rhythm –
Yesterdays -1 –
It Never Entered My Mind -2 –
Blues In The Closet –

-1 omit Getz
-2 omit Johnson
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(EE) JATP ALL STARS: Roy Eldridge (tp), J.J. Johnson (tb), Stan Getz, Coleman Hawkins (ts), John Lewis (p), Percy Heath (b), Jo Jones (d).
Same concert as (BB).
Stuffy Verve MGV 8267
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(FF) ELLA FITZGERALD: Roy Eldridge (tp), J. J. Johnson (tb), Sonny Stitt (as), Lester Young, Illinois Jacquet, Coleman Hawkins, Stan Getz, Flip Phillips (ts), Oscar Peterson (p), Herb Ellis (g), Ray Brown (b), Jo Jones (d), Ella Fitzgerald (vcl).
same concert as (BB).
Stompin’ At The Savoy (EF-vcl) Verve MGV 8264
Oh, Lady Be Good (EF-vcl) –

Edited 8 hours ago by jazzbo

[JSngry]

Hmmm....

[kh1958]

So that's 32 different groups: Hawk is in six of them; Pres is in twelve; Roy is in fourteen.

As a bonus, Ben Webster is in six and Diz is in three.

Not to mention, Benny Carter, Illinois Jacquet and Stan Getz.

 

[JSngry]

And LOTS of Oscar Peterson...