BFT232

[tkeith]

Alrighty!  Traveling, so I'm going to apologize in advance if things are wonky -- I'll fix by the 4th (browsing on tiny screens is awful enough, but trying to deal with code is an absolute friggin' nightmare!).  

This month's test has no specific theme other than I did what several others did and chose stuff that crossed my radar or made an impression over the past year.  There are some gimmes, there are some that may be very difficult.  Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to lay your ears upon this collection and attempt to identify what you can.  What you cannot, feel free to provide your impressions.  Good luck, we're all counting on you.  

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[T.D.]

Really enjoying this so far. Have some vague ideas, but #8's got to be early Hank with Horace and Blakey, maybe Hank's Prank. I know I have a recording, but not sure of album/take.

[BillF]

Track 2: Dizzy.  Benny Green?

Track 3: Art Blakey? Lee Morgan. Wayne Shorter? Timmons? =Jazz Messengers in about 1961?

Edited July 1, 2023 by BillF

[BillF]

Track 9: Dizzy and Leo Wright, "Kush".

[JSngry]

Surely #1 is Ursula Rucker!!!! That's brilliant 

[Milestones]

Here are a few thoughts:

2) This sure sounds like Dizzy to me.  Familiar tune as well.  It’s quite enjoyable, but I can’t place it.  I will add this to my collection.

4) This is bopping big band number with trumpet that might Freddie Hubbard and Joe Henderson.  If that’s so, it must be a rather be a rather obscure record.

5) “No One Knows You When You’re Down and Out”

eight:  That must be Art Blakey and the tenor, I would think, is either Sonny Rollins or Hank Mobley.

9) This opens with some nice flute, then we have the entry of Dizzy.  I believe this is “Kush,” though not a version I have previously heard. 

11) This sounds like the great Freddie Hubbard piece “Red Clay.”  Certainly not the original, but quite good with the strong tenor sax and overall feel.   

12) I know this singer…I know her…but can’t name her.  

Edited July 1, 2023 by Milestones

[JSngry]

Ok, making amends for my participatory slovenliness in the last two BFTs, getting in early here.

TRACK ONE - Definitely Ursula Rucker, but with who? 4Hero? I don't recognize this as being from one of her own albums? This is really quite musical in every regard, like it a LOT. Ursula has a great cadence when the music hits a pocket that allows it, and this definitely does allow it. Fice Stars +, Leonard!

TRACK TWO - Don't recognize the tune, but definitely the texture. That's the Ellington album that Dizzy did with arrangements b Clare Fischer. Not a particularly visceral album, moreon the cough syrup tip, but if you're ready for that, then it's a great listen. Another winner, Leonard!

TRACK THREE - "Sleeping Dancer Sleep On", one of Wayne's most beguiling compositions, Blakey really allows it it's space, which is not necessarily what he always did. I love ho you can hear Lee working his way through the changes, knowing the patterns he's going to use, but also being able to work with them on the fly while he goes through the, We don't always think of Lee as a "thoughtful" player, but this is extremely thought full work on changes that are logical but not obvious. And Wayne wanting to get fl;own to the moon!!!!!! Like Someone In Love was maybe the first "vault" Messengers album by this band, but it might also be my favorite. You're batting 1.000 Leonard!!!

TRACK FOUR - Blu & Junior Cook on what seems like it could be a Jimmy Heat tune? The solos are all aces, but the center attraction he is the drumming, almost New Orleans in feel, interdependence of the limbs. I think I have this record? Ok, yes I do. It was my last BN Blue to get (not counting the two Monk Higgins ). It's a good'un all the way through. We have to assume that Duke Pearson is the arranger, right? You're on a hot streak, Leonard!

TRACK FIVE - This is a weird one....thought it was going to be some oddball Chet Baker Italian TV show, and then, obviously not. Totally professional band, but the singing is very show-biz in a way that I don't like. It could be a sad song, but here it turns into a "sad song", very superficially and manipulatively "bluesy". Not a fan here, Leonard, not really. Low and away, Ball One.

TRACK SIX - Unmistakably Arnett Cobb!!! One of the most real voices of the instrument, ever. All I do the whole day through is dream of a tone like that, one where the note and the tone are the same thing, speaking, You're back on track here, Leonard!

TRACK SEVEN - Oh my! I don't know this record at all, but that is Budd Johnson, for sure. One of the heroes of this music, imo. Budd Johnson was a baaaaaaaadddd motherfucker. Period. Badder than you, Leonard, badder than me, badder than all of us.

TRACK EIGHT - Hank. Avila & Tequila. There it is, Leonard, there it is.

TRACK NINE - "Kush", Dizzy. Don't know this version, but it's on point all the way. Ok, that's Leo Wright, I like the drumming is that Chali(e) Persip? And Lalo Schiffrin on piano? Did Dizzy ever do this one for big band? Seems like it could really work like that. This is good, maybe not great, but it's in the zone, so you get the call, Leonard.

TRACK TEN - Sounds like a Gerald Wilson sax section, but that is definitely not Gerald Wilson's writing. Whoever it is wrote a helluva good chart for a helluva damn good band. This why big bands matter (and so often don't!) Damn Leonard, you got your good stuff today!

TRACK ELEVEN - Not sure what else this is, but that sure sounds like George Coleman. Not really top-shelf George Coleman, imo, lots of devices and exercise type chord connecting. At his best, he still does that, but with a greater design than this has. That sounds like Tony on drums? Liking the pianist. Overally, this is not quite gelled enough for me to put it on the table for desert. Broke a little early and missed the zone,, sorry Leonard, can't give it to you, not this time.

TRACK TWELVE -  Azar & Jean Carne inviting us into some kind of glorious new age that, uh....never was really there. A lot of people tried, but it takes more than trying to change humanity. Apart from that...the playing is in there. This one has become a bit of a classic, and rightfully so, Azar was playing a lot of tenor back in those days, he meant it. And Woody Shaw!And that Woody Murray guy, whatever happened to him????  In the long haul, none of it came true, but keep think8ing good thoughts, Leonard, keep thinking good thoughts. The alternative is not a good place to go.

TRACK THIRTEEN - I think I have this record? It's a DJ/Nu-Jazz take on "Las Vegas Tango", but I don't know if the call it that. But i like it. There's enough there in terms fo recontextualizng the original source material that it takes on a shape and space. Not everything of this ilk does that, some of it just does the cutting and leaves it there, but the real musicians who work in this medium know that there's more to it than that. And this might not be working from a sample, which is kind of even more impressive, maybe. Either way, it's thoughtful engagement at all levels. Good to see your scouting department is serving you so well, Leonard!

TRACK FOURTEEN - Frank Lowe? Sounds like a Don Cherry piece from Complete Communion, but memory fails now as to which one. It sounds like Lowe in how he's just putting himself out there and in there, not worried about running shit, just playing the moment as he is living in it. No idea who this is, though. But whoever it is came to play, and playing they are. Can I be forgiven in thinking that it's the vibist's band, how the vibes are always playing.

Finishing strong Leonard, now go in and ice the elbow, you've earned it!

[felser]

BFT 232

1 – fascinating stuff music, likely of very recent (last 10 years) vintage?   I like the atmospherics (is that a word?) of the lyrics/vocal, though I am probably too old and culturally removed to grab onto the specifics.  I’m sure my daughter would go for them.  Worth a relisten in that regard.

2- Jones/Lewis?  Good trumpet.

3 – Good stuff. Surely this is one of the “gimme’s” but I’m not able to ID yet (it should come to me).  I’m sure I have it on the shelves.

4 – Exact same comments as on #3.  Son of “Sidewinder”.  It will come to me.

5 – Not my thing, much ado about nothing to me.  I’m sure it seemed better live. 

6 – Classic tenor player.   I like that Lou Donaldson conga drum effect.  Lockjaw on Prestige?  Another “gimme”?  Bet I have it.

7 – Son of “Moanin’.  Older, pre-Stanley Clarke style bass player (my preference).  Wilbur Ware comes to mind for some reason.   Nice cut.   Bet I have it.

8 – Another nice cut, definitely in the groove on this BFT!  Again, I bet this is a “gimme” and that I have it.  Frustrating that my old brain can’t pull out the details.   Love the tenor.   Is that Art Blakey on drums?

9 – Great cut, I know I have it because I’m completing the lines in my head.  Yusef Lateef, I believe?  I’ll ID this one eventually.

10 – Good stuff, like the tenor player (which has been a consistent theme for me in this BFT, you'd think a sax player created it or something).  And the percussion is fun.  Hope I have it.

11 – Killer cut, wonderful tenor.  Not great fidelity, drums especially recorded poorly, but would love to have this, it may be my favorite cut in the entire BFT.   70’s recording date?  Post-Stanley Clarke bass player/drummer.  Joe Henderson?

12 Title trace from this  https://www.discogs.com/release/1239842-Azar-Lawrence-Bridge-Into-The-New-Age  . Classic!  I used this on a BFT several years ago (2014, BFT 129). Exactly in my wheelhouse.

13 – Vinyl sourced.  Sounds like background music from a sci fi soundtrack.  I don’t dislike it.

14 – Also vinyl sourced, and from a small label, likely from the 70’s.   Being from Philly, I want to guess Byard Lancaster, Khan Jamal, and Monette Sudler – could make it the Sounds of Liberation, but the (unimpressive) trumpet throws me off.  But I feel pretty confident about Lancaster and Jamal.  Though maybe it’s a whole other set of musicians from Chicago or L.A. or somewhere and I’m dead wrong.   Good cut, rough but spirited.   Would love to have it on CD, but I’m going to guess this is probably the rarest album by far on the BFT, and may not be available on CD.  May be that bandcamp will be my friend?

Wonderful BFT, thanks so much, look forward to the ID’s.  I’m sure guys like Jim will pick off a lot of the titles.

 

[danasgoodstuff]

#4 is the title (sort of) and lead track from the last good album Blue made for Blue Note, I'm looking for a copy if anyone has one for sale, good stuff

[tkeith]

On 7/1/2023 at 10:55 AM, T.D. said:

Really enjoying this so far. Have some vague ideas, but #8's got to be early Hank with Horace and Blakey, maybe Hank's Prank. I know I have a recording, but not sure of album/take.

You've got 3-out-of-4 personnel, but that's not the tune. 

 

On 7/1/2023 at 10:56 AM, BillF said:

Track 2: Dizzy.  Benny Green?

Track 3: Art Blakey? Lee Morgan. Wayne Shorter? Timmons? =Jazz Messengers in about 1961?

Track 2 -- 2-for-2.  Track 3 -- spot on.

 

On 7/1/2023 at 11:17 AM, BillF said:

Track 9: Dizzy and Leo Wright, "Kush".

Spot on!

 

On 7/1/2023 at 12:37 PM, JSngry said:

Surely #1 is Ursula Rucker!!!! That's brilliant 

I am out of my league.  Of course, you nailed it.  Glad that this hits for you, because inclusion of this was a struggle, particularly with your reaction in mind.  #score!

On 7/1/2023 at 1:56 PM, Milestones said:

Here are a few thoughts:

2) This sure sounds like Dizzy to me.  Familiar tune as well.  It’s quite enjoyable, but I can’t place it.  I will add this to my collection.

 

NOTE:  Forum is not letting me split the block in my response like it used it.  I'll enter comments in a different font color.

And, now it does.  Egad.  You are, of course, correct.

On 7/1/2023 at 1:56 PM, Milestones said:

4) This is bopping big band number with trumpet that might Freddie Hubbard and Joe Henderson.  If that’s so, it must be a rather be a rather obscure record.

You're in the neighborhood, but off by a couple of streets.

 

5) “No One Knows You When You’re Down and Out”

Indeed.

 

eight:  That must be Art Blakey and the tenor, I would think, is either Sonny Rollins or Hank Mobley.

Yep.  Mobley correctly ID'd.  Funny, when this first came through the mix, I thought it was Newk.

 

9) This opens with some nice flute, then we have the entry of Dizzy.  I believe this is “Kush,” though not a version I have previously heard. 

Correct, sir!

 

11) This sounds like the great Freddie Hubbard piece “Red Clay.”  Certainly not the original, but quite good with the strong tenor sax and overall feel.   

Tune is an original by the session leader.

 

12) I know this singer…I know her…but can’t name her.  

Yes, you do.

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by tkeith

[tkeith]

 

On 7/1/2023 at 3:38 PM, JSngry said:

Ok, making amends for my participatory slovenliness in the last two BFTs, getting in early here.

TRACK ONE - Definitely Ursula Rucker, but with who? 4Hero? I don't recognize this as being from one of her own albums? This is really quite musical in every regard, like it a LOT. Ursula has a great cadence when the music hits a pocket that allows it, and this definitely does allow it. Fice Stars +, Leonard!

This is one of the harder IDs.  There is a backstory to follow, but Ursula Rucker is spot on.

 

TRACK TWO - Don't recognize the tune, but definitely the texture. That's the Ellington album that Dizzy did with arrangements b Clare Fischer. Not a particularly visceral album, moreon the cough syrup tip, but if you're ready for that, then it's a great listen. Another winner, Leonard!

Spot on, of course.

 

TRACK THREE - "Sleeping Dancer Sleep On", one of Wayne's most beguiling compositions, Blakey really allows it it's space, which is not necessarily what he always did. I love ho you can hear Lee working his way through the changes, knowing the patterns he's going to use, but also being able to work with them on the fly while he goes through the, We don't always think of Lee as a "thoughtful" player, but this is extremely thought full work on changes that are logical but not obvious. And Wayne wanting to get fl;own to the moon!!!!!! Like Someone In Love was maybe the first "vault" Messengers album by this band, but it might also be my favorite. You're batting 1.000 Leonard!!!

Jim is running the table, here. 

 

TRACK FOUR - Blu & Junior Cook on what seems like it could be a Jimmy Heat tune? The solos are all aces, but the center attraction he is the drumming, almost New Orleans in feel, interdependence of the limbs. I think I have this record? Ok, yes I do. It was my last BN Blue to get (not counting the two Monk Higgins ). It's a good'un all the way through. We have to assume that Duke Pearson is the arranger, right? You're on a hot streak, Leonard!

He can't be stopped!

 

TRACK FIVE - This is a weird one....thought it was going to be some oddball Chet Baker Italian TV show, and then, obviously not. Totally professional band, but the singing is very show-biz in a way that I don't like. It could be a sad song, but here it turns into a "sad song", very superficially and manipulatively "bluesy". Not a fan here, Leonard, not really. Low and away, Ball One.

The backstory may sell this one to you in the long run.

 

TRACK SIX - Unmistakably Arnett Cobb!!! One of the most real voices of the instrument, ever. All I do the whole day through is dream of a tone like that, one where the note and the tone are the same thing, speaking, You're back on track here, Leonard!

He's a MACHINE!!

 

TRACK SEVEN - Oh my! I don't know this record at all, but that is Budd Johnson, for sure. One of the heroes of this music, imo. Budd Johnson was a baaaaaaaadddd motherfucker. Period. Badder than you, Leonard, badder than me, badder than all of us.

You could not be more right about Budd.  How people whiff on this guy is beyond me, because he is a MONSTER!

 

TRACK EIGHT - Hank. Avila & Tequila. There it is, Leonard, there it is.

He shoots -- HE SCORES!

 

TRACK NINE - "Kush", Dizzy. Don't know this version, but it's on point all the way. Ok, that's Leo Wright, I like the drumming is that Chali(e) Persip? And Lalo Schiffrin on piano? Did Dizzy ever do this one for big band? Seems like it could really work like that. This is good, maybe not great, but it's in the zone, so you get the call, Leonard.

Had this on the iPod last night for my [heavily delayed] trip home from KC.  Between Saigon Phunk (Billy Bang) and this, my reactions were drawing from strange looks from other passengers.  #dealwithit

 

TRACK TEN - Sounds like a Gerald Wilson sax section, but that is definitely not Gerald Wilson's writing. Whoever it is wrote a helluva good chart for a helluva damn good band. This why big bands matter (and so often don't!) Damn Leonard, you got your good stuff today!

This one is going to shock the hell out of people.

 

TRACK ELEVEN - Not sure what else this is, but that sure sounds like George Coleman. Not really top-shelf George Coleman, imo, lots of devices and exercise type chord connecting. At his best, he still does that, but with a greater design than this has. That sounds like Tony on drums? Liking the pianist. Overally, this is not quite gelled enough for me to put it on the table for desert. Broke a little early and missed the zone,, sorry Leonard, can't give it to you, not this time.

Another whose backstory may win you back.  It IS George.  It is NOT [quite] Tony.  You DO like the pianist.

 

TRACK TWELVE -  Azar & Jean Carne inviting us into some kind of glorious new age that, uh....never was really there. A lot of people tried, but it takes more than trying to change humanity. Apart from that...the playing is in there. This one has become a bit of a classic, and rightfully so, Azar was playing a lot of tenor back in those days, he meant it. And Woody Shaw!And that Woody Murray guy, whatever happened to him????  In the long haul, none of it came true, but keep think8ing good thoughts, Leonard, keep thinking good thoughts. The alternative is not a good place to go.

Fingers are crossed, and boy this cut sure helps in the reflection of the madness of today's world. 

 

TRACK THIRTEEN - I think I have this record? It's a DJ/Nu-Jazz take on "Las Vegas Tango", but I don't know if the call it that. But i like it. There's enough there in terms fo recontextualizng the original source material that it takes on a shape and space. Not everything of this ilk does that, some of it just does the cutting and leaves it there, but the real musicians who work in this medium know that there's more to it than that. And this might not be working from a sample, which is kind of even more impressive, maybe. Either way, it's thoughtful engagement at all levels. Good to see your scouting department is serving you so well, Leonard!

There is a tie-in on this one, it's another difficult ID.

 

TRACK FOURTEEN - Frank Lowe? Sounds like a Don Cherry piece from Complete Communion, but memory fails now as to which one. It sounds like Lowe in how he's just putting himself out there and in there, not worried about running shit, just playing the moment as he is living in it. No idea who this is, though. But whoever it is came to play, and playing they are. Can I be forgiven in thinking that it's the vibist's band, how the vibes are always playing.

Frank Lowe is correct, not Cherry, not the vibist's date. Frank is another guy who doesn't quite get the respect his approach earned.  The more I hear him, the more I believe that.  He's not on Mt. Rushmore, but he's got a monument on the trail.

 

Finishing strong Leonard, now go in and ice the elbow, you've earned it!

 

On 7/1/2023 at 4:32 PM, felser said:

BFT 232

1 – fascinating stuff music, likely of very recent (last 10 years) vintage?   I like the atmospherics (is that a word?) of the lyrics/vocal, though I am probably too old and culturally removed to grab onto the specifics.  I’m sure my daughter would go for them.  Worth a relisten in that regard.

We're getting long in the tooth, bud -- last 15-to-20 years.  😒

 

2- Jones/Lewis?  Good trumpet.

Nay, sir, but I appreciate what got you there.  ID'd above, but for sure, where that band wanted to be.

 

3 – Good stuff. Surely this is one of the “gimme’s” but I’m not able to ID yet (it should come to me).  I’m sure I have it on the shelves.

Facts, sir!

 

4 – Exact same comments as on #3.  Son of “Sidewinder”.  It will come to me.

Mayhaps.  ID'd by Jim (who came as close to running the table as I've seen... I am in awe).

 

5 – Not my thing, much ado about nothing to me.  I’m sure it seemed better live. 

It would be, but not for the reason you think.

On 7/1/2023 at 4:32 PM, felser said:

6 – Classic tenor player.   I like that Lou Donaldson conga drum effect.  Lockjaw on Prestige?  Another “gimme”?  Bet I have it.

Less of a gimme, otherwise spot on.  Not Lockjaw, ID'd by Jim.

 

7 – Son of “Moanin’.  Older, pre-Stanley Clarke style bass player (my preference).  Wilbur Ware comes to mind for some reason.   Nice cut.   Bet I have it.

Stanley should be flattered.  You know the reveal info -- see Jim's key. 

 

8 – Another nice cut, definitely in the groove on this BFT!  Again, I bet this is a “gimme” and that I have it.  Frustrating that my old brain can’t pull out the details.   Love the tenor.   Is that Art Blakey on drums?

Of COURSE you love that tenor!    Yes indeed, on Mr. Blakey.

 

9 – Great cut, I know I have it because I’m completing the lines in my head.  Yusef Lateef, I believe?  I’ll ID this one eventually.

ID'd, but I love the draw to Yusef.  I can't get enough of this one.

 

10 – Good stuff, like the tenor player (which has been a consistent theme for me in this BFT, you'd think a sax player created it or something).  And the percussion is fun.  Hope I have it.

A lot to love about this cut.  This is a tough one to ID because it's a well-known band playing something NOT their standard fare, and the composer is going to surprise people, at first, but then it will make sense.  There are no NON-monsters in this sax section.

 

11 – Killer cut, wonderful tenor.  Not great fidelity, drums especially recorded poorly, but would love to have this, it may be my favorite cut in the entire BFT.   70’s recording date?  Post-Stanley Clarke bass player/drummer.  Joe Henderson?

Nay, sir.  Tenor ID'd by Jim.  Very poor fidelity -- it's a digitized version of an impossible-to-find album.  Correct on the vintage, but I'd say all but the drummer would be agreed upon as heavier hitters than Stanley.  Drummer was on that trajectory but went in a different direction (that might be too much info).

 

12 Title trace from this  https://www.discogs.com/release/1239842-Azar-Lawrence-Bridge-Into-The-New-Age  . Classic!  I used this on a BFT several years ago (2014, BFT 129). Exactly in my wheelhouse.

Dang!  I always search for the tunes in an effort to NOT recycle, but it didn't show up in my search.  Of course, you are spot on, as well as being the target audience.  There is literally nothing I don't like about this cut.

 

13 – Vinyl sourced.  Sounds like background music from a sci fi soundtrack.  I don’t dislike it.

Actually, sampled and altered, but definitely digital.  AI is a bitch.

 

14 – Also vinyl sourced, and from a small label, likely from the 70’s.   Being from Philly, I want to guess Byard Lancaster, Khan Jamal, and Monette Sudler – could make it the Sounds of Liberation, but the (unimpressive) trumpet throws me off.  But I feel pretty confident about Lancaster and Jamal.  Though maybe it’s a whole other set of musicians from Chicago or L.A. or somewhere and I’m dead wrong.   Good cut, rough but spirited.   Would love to have it on CD, but I’m going to guess this is probably the rarest album by far on the BFT, and may not be available on CD.  May be that bandcamp will be my friend?

You're in the correct neighborhood, tenor ID'd by Jim.  You're further descriptions are spot on, you're at the right address, just walk through the door.

 

Wonderful BFT, thanks so much, look forward to the ID’s.  I’m sure guys like Jim will pick off a lot of the titles.

 

 

10 hours ago, danasgoodstuff said:

#4 is the title (sort of) and lead track from the last good album Blue made for Blue Note, I'm looking for a copy if anyone has one for sale, good stuff

Correct ID, but you can't have my copy. 

[JSngry]

Did a little looking on the shelves, and #13 is Radio Citizen. That's a really good record!

And they don't mention "Las Vegas Tango" at all, but oh well...

Still, a fine record. It played in my car for weeks when I got it. 

[randyhersom]

1. Some similarity to Monday Michiru but it's not her voice.  What I have heard of Moor Mother was edgier than this, but I have no better guess.  Unless it's Amina Claudine Myers.
2. Gerald Wilson?
3. More mellow trumpet (or Fluegelhorn?) Lee and Wayne?
4. Band sounds bigger than a sextet, but the feel is Blue Note boogaloo.  If I knew of sixties Horace Silver recording with a larger band I might hazard him as a guess.
5. Nobody Wants You When You're Down and Out.  Gentle and understated for much of the song, but gets to belting it out by the end. Maybe Joe Williams?
6. Sounds like tenor quartet plus congas.  Maybe Willis Jackson?
7. Jazztet?
8. Stanley Turrentine?
9. Could this be Randy Weston?
10. Big Band Diz?
11. Blue Note era Joe Henderson?
12. Azar Lawrence - Bridge Into the New Age, from album of the same name.
13. Reminds me of a Matthias Lupri CD I have somewhere.  Atmospheric.
14. Nice modern vibes and guitar groove, a little more traditional hard bop based than the previous track.  Tisiji Munoz?

 

[Dan Gould]

Well, Thom, 1 got a big thumbs down from me but 2-11 were quite the streak of very enjoyable tunes (well 11 wasn't the greatest). As everybody knows I suck at guessing but after a lot of listening to both I am confident saying 6 is Arnett and 8 is Hank.

(And wondering if you rethought 8 after Hank got used in June's BFT. Obviously not enough to replace it.)

Thanks for the tunes.

 

[mjazzg]

Track 14, Lowe and vibes, from this?

https://www.discogs.com/release/1602113-The-Frank-Lowe-Sextet-Skizoke

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, mjazzg said:

Track 14, Lowe and vibes, from this?

https://www.discogs.com/release/1602113-The-Frank-Lowe-Sextet-Skizoke

Gotta be! 

[Dub Modal]

Really started enjoying this BFT at track 3. There wasn’t anything I didn’t like after that one and some interesting ones like the last song. No guesses, but great vibes from these. 

[felser]

On 7/4/2023 at 4:01 PM, mjazzg said:

Track 14, Lowe and vibes, from this?

https://www.discogs.com/release/1602113-The-Frank-Lowe-Sextet-Skizoke

And of course no CD!  And being on that label with that producer, I doubt there ever will be.

[tkeith]

On 7/3/2023 at 11:09 AM, JSngry said:

Did a little looking on the shelves, and #13 is Radio Citizen. That's a really good record!

And they don't mention "Las Vegas Tango" at all, but oh well...

Still, a fine record. It played in my car for weeks when I got it. 

I was a little hung-up about them when I realized they were more producer-driven, but something about it just works.

 

 

On 7/3/2023 at 8:11 PM, randyhersom said:

1. Some similarity to Monday Michiru but it's not her voice.  What I have heard of Moor Mother was edgier than this, but I have no better guess.  Unless it's Amina Claudine Myers.

Vocalist ID'd by Jim, album/song/band still up for discussion.

2. Gerald Wilson?

Nay, sir!

3. More mellow trumpet (or Fluegelhorn?) Lee and Wayne?

Correct.  ID'd (along with most of the test) by Jim.

4. Band sounds bigger than a sextet, but the feel is Blue Note boogaloo.  If I knew of sixties Horace Silver recording with a larger band I might hazard him as a guess.

Right neighborhood, wrong street.

5. Nobody Wants You When You're Down and Out.  Gentle and understated for much of the song, but gets to belting it out by the end. Maybe Joe Williams?

Negative, but this cut IS here for the vocalist.

6. Sounds like tenor quartet plus congas.  Maybe Willis Jackson?

More old school, and I'd argue a bit heavier.

7. Jazztet?

Negative, but I see how you got there.

8. Stanley Turrentine?

Older, perhaps more toward Jazz royalty.

9. Could this be Randy Weston?

It could be, but is not.  I'd guess the pianist would be okay with the inference.

10. Big Band Diz?

No, sir, but...

 

11. Blue Note era Joe Henderson?

Lotta folks hearing Joe on this. Not Joe, later than that era.

12. Azar Lawrence - Bridge Into the New Age, from album of the same name.

Upside:  I think most everybody has gotten the gimme. 

13. Reminds me of a Matthias Lupri CD I have somewhere.  Atmospheric.

I can see that.  I think this has a harder edge than ML, though.

14. Nice modern vibes and guitar groove, a little more traditional hard bop based than the previous track.  Tisiji Munoz?

Negative, sir.  A bit outside the lines.

 

 

 

On 7/4/2023 at 12:35 PM, Dan Gould said:

Well, Thom, 1 got a big thumbs down from me but 2-11 were quite the streak of very enjoyable tunes (well 11 wasn't the greatest). As everybody knows I suck at guessing but after a lot of listening to both I am confident saying 6 is Arnett and 8 is Hank.

(And wondering if you rethought 8 after Hank got used in June's BFT. Obviously not enough to replace it.)

Thanks for the tunes.

 

Fair.  You are, of course, correct on 6 and 8.  11 will surprise people at the reveal.  I did have a moment's pause about Hank, but decided to stick with my original choices (that was one of the first 3 tracks I chose for this year's BFT).

 

 

On 7/4/2023 at 4:01 PM, mjazzg said:

Track 14, Lowe and vibes, from this?

https://www.discogs.com/release/1602113-The-Frank-Lowe-Sextet-Skizoke

Correct, sir!

 

 

1 hour ago, Dub Modal said:

Really started enjoying this BFT at track 3. There wasn’t anything I didn’t like after that one and some interesting ones like the last song. No guesses, but great vibes from these. 

Glad to hear it.  Sorry 1 & 2 missed.

 

[Dub Modal]

22 hours ago, tkeith said:

Glad to hear it.  Sorry 1 & 2 missed

I’m going to revisit for sure. First listens to new music can be the equivalent of the neck pour of whisky. Never trust your first impression 100%. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Dub Modal

[tkeith]

Perfectly stated.

 

[JSngry]

On 7/5/2023 at 4:05 PM, tkeith said:

I was a little hung-up about them when I realized they were more producer-driven, but something about it just works. 

I'm no doubt in the minority here, but something this well-done enters the real of composition to me. Or more accurately recomposition. 

The irony here being that that's what's been claimed of Gil himself many times over the years.

21st Century music using 21st Century techniques, hey! 

[tkeith]

Gotten mighty quiet in here...

[randyhersom]

It does that.

[tkeith]

Yep.  Figured maybe I could spike the punch and see what happens.