Kenny Burrell - On View At The Five Spot Cafe (Complete?)

[david weiss]

2 hours ago, jazzbo said:

Rather than these I'd like to see the first 15 years or so of the label reissued with the current technology to digital (Redbook, SACD). Not going to happen but what I would prefer to see as a project.

I liked that for the Van Gelder series, they went back to the original master tapes for the early 1500 (1500-1511) series releases so there was no added reverb like all the subsequent releases of this material after the original issue. The problem was I didn't like Van Gelder's remastering of the material but still listened because it still sounded so superior to the versions with added reverb. I assume some of these releases have been remastered from the original analog tapes for vinyl in the last couple of years.

23 hours ago, JSngry said:

This Bud's for you!

 

Absolutely!

[felser]

49 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Besides, he's doing good work now.

I sincerely hadn't noticed, tuned out years ago, as guys like Robert Glasper didn't do it for me.   Who should I be hearing from their recent catalog?

[david weiss]

On 4/29/2025 at 8:06 PM, felser said:

Understood on David's comments, and agreed.  We didn't learn anything new from Just Coolin' (it was OK, but really just product), and I can 't imagine we will from the extra cuts here.  Thankfully, in some cases, like the Elvin and the Tyner/Henderson, we do learn something new by hearing them.  There's other stuff in (and out of) the BN vaults I'd rather see released.  Give me Burrell's mysterious 'Freedom' album, which I've never heard.  Give me some of the infamous rejected albums, like the Wayne and the Train Wreck.  I'll pay to hear them no matter how flawed they are.  Give me some of the overlooked 70's albums that have rarely or never seen CD release, like the New Heritage Keyboard Quartet.  Give me more along the lines of the Donald Byrd Black Byrd-era Montreux set, which was eye-opening. 

Part of the issue here is that we are not in the CD era anymore. I discovered this for sure when we did the Just Coolin' release. I listened to all the alternate takes and picked 4 worthy of inclusion in the set but were nixed because the vinyl release took precedent over the CD release and they wanted a single LP so no bonus tracks were included (they were pretty good, maybe even on par with the master takes on one or two occasions). The Tyrone Washington material was pitched as bonus material to a Natural Essence reissue but again, the LP rules so the bonus material route doesn't exist anymore. I guess they could put them up on streaming sites if they chose to.

The fate of the Wayne Shorter date is a mystery. Wayne listened to tons of live material of his current band to find material to release over the next few years (up to 5 albums worth I've heard) but no mention of this date.

The Jackie McLean session with Norman Conners is nowhere to be found anymore.....

Edited 6 hours ago by david weiss

[JSngry]

You can stream most all of it and then decide for yourself. I've decided that that's how I enjoy it most.

Lon seems to be really, seriously enjoying some of it so check out his posts.

But the Glasper thing is kinda like...old news by now.

8 minutes ago, felser said:

I sincerely hadn't noticed, tuned out years ago, as guys like Robert Glasper didn't do it for me.   Who should I be hearing from their recent catalog?

 

[david weiss]

7 minutes ago, felser said:

I sincerely hadn't noticed, tuned out years ago, as guys like Robert Glasper didn't do it for me.   Who should I be hearing from their recent catalog?

I really couldn't tell you about the albums they have made but Joel Ross and Immanuel Wilkins are excellent musicians and certainly have the potential to make compelling music. Artemis is a really good band and if you like Branford Marsalis....

[felser]

21 minutes ago, david weiss said:

Part of the issue here is that we are not in the CD era anymore. I discovered this for sure when we did the Just Coolin' release. I listened to all the alternate takes and picked 4 worthy of inclusion in the set but were nixed because the vinyl release took precedent over the CD release and they wanted a single LP so no bonus tracks were included (they were pretty good, maybe even on par with the master takes on one or two occasions). The Tyrone Washington material was pitched as bonus material to a Natural Essence reissue but again, the LP rules again so the bonus material route doesn't exist anymore. I guess they could put them up on streaming sites if they chose to.

The fate of the Wayne Shorter date is a mystery. Wayne listened to tons of live material of his current band to find material to release over the next few years (up to 5 albums worth I've heard) but no mention of this date.

Thanks David, heartbreaking to hear, as I am still very much in my own CD era (as are many of us here).  I have started breaking down and paying for downloads at times for stuff of special interest to me that likely won't be seeing CD release, but even downloads aren't available for a lot of desired material which is vinyl-only.  The Nathan Davis ORTF release comes immediately to mind in that regard.

22 minutes ago, david weiss said:

I really couldn't tell you about the albums they have made but Joel Ross and Immanuel Wilkins are excellent musicians and certainly have the potential to make compelling music. Artemis is a really good band and if you like Branford Marsalis....

Thanks, I'll give Ross, Wilkins, and Artemis a listen.  I've always been OK with Branford, think he's gotten a bad rap through the decades due to his infamous brother.

27 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Lon seems to be really, seriously enjoying some of it so check out his posts.

Good idea, thanks.

[bertrand]

The Melissa Aldana records are great as well. And my friend, trumpeter Brandon Woody just got signed.