bertrand Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Glad he liked Grant which is how I have a copy of the rejected KD session. I am sure the McLean was AWL before he started copying en masse. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, david weiss said: Belden… …wanted every record that Herbie Hancock (which is probably why he had the Tyrone Washington session) was ever on. Herbie is phenomenal on that unreleased Tyrone session. I’ve often imagined what a Herbie piano-trio album from about 1965-1968 or so might have sounded like… but specifically with the kind of playing Herbie displays on the Tyrone Session (also on Wayne’s All Seeing Eye). More percussive, less harmony-driven, and less about ‘tunes’ and changes. Edited May 7 by Rooster_Ties Quote
JSngry Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 Bob gave me a list of Most Overlooked Herbie Hancock Sideman Dates (or something like that) and it was full of Creed Taylor easylisten-ish sessions that i would have easily overlooked. That list made for some really fun investigating! Quote
Mark Stryker Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Bob gave me a list of Most Overlooked Herbie Hancock Sideman Dates (or something like that) and it was full of Creed Taylor easylisten-ish sessions that i would have easily overlooked. That list made for some really fun investigating! Core trio here is Herbie, Ron, and Mel Lewis. Herbie solos at 3:38. Edited May 7 by Mark Stryker Quote
JSngry Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 This one was on the list, one that I had long overlooked: But hey, looks like it's not unknown! http://www.stevekhan.com/59tha.htm Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 7 Author Report Posted May 7 Bob was asking me if I had heard the Japanese-only release, "The Piano", saying it was one of Herbie's best recordings. When I told him I had never heard it, he sent me a bunch of takes from the session. It turned out that he was in the middle of producing the 2004 reissue of this session. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 3 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: Bob was asking me if I had heard the Japanese-only release, "The Piano", saying it was one of Herbie's best recordings. When I told him I had never heard it, he sent me a bunch of takes from the session. It turned out that he was in the middle of producing the 2004 reissue of this session. I’ve almost bought that solo-piano Herbie date a dozen times or more. Maybe one of these days I’ll finally bite. Quote
mikeweil Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 Herbie always delivered as a sideman. I always like him in that role, and think he often played better than on his own records made around the same time. Like, he kills on Joe Henderson's Jobim tribute on Verve, but his New Standard album never caught me. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 On 5/7/2025 at 11:57 AM, Rooster_Ties said: I’ve almost bought that solo-piano Herbie date a dozen times or more. Maybe one of these days I’ll finally bite. Played it last night, and still affordable. Rounding the corner, my wife thought I was playing Bach. It is a gorgeous record, but get why Columbia didn't distribute it here in America, as 1977 meant Kiss's Love Gun was blaring on the radio, or fixate on radio-friendly tunes (frankly, like those radio-friendly tunes). A great record that can be had for under a Jackson. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 I picked up KB at the 5 Spot 2 CD expanded version the other day and I'm glad I did - enjoying the new material and like the packaging. $25 well spent IMHO, YMMV. Maybe now we'll get the rest of the material from the 3 Sounds at the Lighthouse, their last really good recording for me. Quote
JSngry Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Holy Ghost said: Played it last night, and still affordable. Rounding the corner, my wife thought I was playing Bach. It is a gorgeous record, but get why Columbia didn't distribute it here in America, as 1977 meant Kiss's Love Gun was blaring on the radio, or fixate on radio-friendly tunes (frankly, like those radio-friendly tunes). A great record that can be had for under a Jackson. Herbie was making good-selling poppies records then. Columbia had no interest in a solo piano record. They got Sunlight instead. Quote
felser Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 49 minutes ago, JSngry said: Herbie was making good-selling poppies records then. Columbia had no interest in a solo piano record. They got Sunlight instead. And 'V.S.O.P. The Quintet'. and 'An Evening With Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea'. The big 2013 Hancock Complete Columbia Recordings box is an enlightening listen (even if many of the latter commercial albums are dismal), as it gives a full picture of what he was recording in each era, with many of the best albums being released only in Japan when they were new. 34 CD's, and you can still get it for under $200 on discogs or ebay. Quote
JSngry Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 Directdtep and Flood are excellent Headhunters-band albums and Dedication has "Nobu", which was WAAAAAY ahead of its time: Quote
Son Of Ice Bag Posted Saturday at 05:19 PM Report Posted Saturday at 05:19 PM On 5/11/2025 at 10:40 PM, danasgoodstuff said: I picked up KB at the 5 Spot 2 CD expanded version the other day and I'm glad I did - enjoying the new material and like the packaging. $25 well spent IMHO, YMMV. Maybe now we'll get the rest of the material from the 3 Sounds at the Lighthouse, their last really good recording for me. Give "Gene Harris of the Three Sounds" (1972) another try! I don't like the cover, the music is great. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted Sunday at 12:16 AM Report Posted Sunday at 12:16 AM 6 hours ago, Son Of Ice Bag said: Give "Gene Harris of the Three Sounds" (1972) another try! I don't like the cover, the music is great. Good, bad, or indifferent - it's not The Three Sounds, not hardly. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted Sunday at 11:28 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 11:28 AM I've been trying to buy this CD set locally since it came out but none of my area's Bull Moose stores have gotten it in. Quote
mikeweil Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago There is a very elaborate track listing here: https://attictoys.com/tina-brooks/tina-brooks-discography/ But Noal has yet to include the latest reissue. Quote
Dan Gould Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago On 5/11/2025 at 4:40 PM, danasgoodstuff said: Maybe now we'll get the rest of the material from the 3 Sounds at the Lighthouse, their last really good recording for me. I thought that the expanded release MC put together had put out everything or everything worthy of release? Of course, "worthy of release" has pretty elastic parameters these days. But if they go by expected sales, MC was quoted somewhere as saying that the Three Sounds were such consistent sellers at the time, and the CD reissues hardly sold at all. We're really lucky that the expanded Lighthouse, Babe's Blues, the It Club volumes, and the Standards CD saw the light of day. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted 20 hours ago Author Report Posted 20 hours ago I know Michael once thought about doing a Mosaic set of the Three Sounds Blue Notes but I guess the sales numbers of the individual CDs he was able to release must've scared him away from that. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 16 hours ago, Dan Gould said: I thought that the expanded release MC put together had put out everything or everything worthy of release? Of course, "worthy of release" has pretty elastic parameters these days. But if they go by expected sales, MC was quoted somewhere as saying that the Three Sounds were such consistent sellers at the time, and the CD reissues hardly sold at all. We're really lucky that the expanded Lighthouse, Babe's Blues, the It Club volumes, and the Standards CD saw the light of day. There's easily another LP's worth listed in Cuscuna's BN discography, and listed as 'unreleased' not 'rejected' and I honestly don't trust his notion of what's worth putting out. The 3 Sounds were a working band and very consistent, until they weren't. The Three Sounds Gene Harris, piano; Andrew Simpkins, bass; Donald Bailey, drums; Dick Bock, producer. The Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach, CA, June 9 and 10, 1967 Still I'm Sad Blue Note 45-1935, BLP 4265 June Night: Just Give Me A June Night / The Moonlight And You Blue Note BLP 4265 I Thought About You - Summertime - Makin' Bread Again Blue Note 45-1935, BLP 4265 Here's That Rainy Day Blue Note BLP 4265 Blues March - Never Say Yes Blue Note 7243 5 23995 2 9 River Shallow - Sunny - Bad Bad Whiskey - C Jam Blues (set call) - Sylvie unissued Like Someone In Love - Georgia On My Mind - Goin' Out Of My Head - Yesterday - The Shadow Of Your Smile - Stella By Starlight - Bluesette - Makin' Whoopee - Cute - Sherry - It Was A Very Good Year - Li'l Darlin' https://www.jazzdisco.org/blue-note-records/discography-1967-1968/ - Quote
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