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that's also what I think... the way I understand it, the Tiberi tapes cover different visits of Coltrane to Philly (or Tiberi to NY) so it could also be an option to have different releases for the different occasions... for instance, the preview belongs to a visit to Philly in July 1960 of Coltrane with Tyner/Davis/La Roca from which there are about 3-4 hours the way I read the Coltrane Reference... so that could be a nice set of 2/3/4 CDs... and then there could be 1961 set, 1962 set etc... something like that would make me happier than a download option for 86 CDs.
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Time for some Benny. “The Yale University Music Library: Benny Goodman, Volume 8” Music Masters cd 300×276 8.72 KB
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As they used to say on Seinfeld "Not bloody likely!" I think Mosaic would be priced out of that opportunity.
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Yes, I love that song as well.
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Oh yeah I love it. Especially "The Nearness of You". I loved that song since I was a kid and that´s the reason why I included it in my new album. The lyrics of that song are great. Can´t play a ballad in the really heartfelt manner if I wouldn´t know the lyrics....
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Yes, and now we need Mosaic to come along and do the exact same thing that they did for the Dean Beneditti recordings!
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The Sparks Brothers first recorded it in the 1930s under its current title. Memphis Slim reworked it somewhat, although he called the song "Nobody Loves Me."
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with Lisle Atkinson (b) and Andrew Cyrille (d)
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I did not know that. Thanks.
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What Classical Music Are You Listening To?
mikeweil replied to StarThrower's topic in Classical Discussion
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They are the same person.
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I have a number of Count Basie albums and Joe Williams albums with this tune. The credit for the composer on some has it as Memphis Slim while other albums has it credited to Peter Chatman. Who is the real composer?
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2025/26 MLB Hot Stove League
ghost of miles replied to JSngry's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
Hear, hear! Five days till pitchers and catchers report. -
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John Coltrane - The Tiberi Tapes! (Impulse)
ghost of miles replied to EKE BBB's topic in New Releases
My guess is that they've distilled Tiberi's original 86-CD-R transfer stash to something in the neighborhood of 4-8 CDs for general release? And I'd also imagine that modern audio clean-up technology has made whatever they're going to put out more listenable, as opposed to what was available in 2000 when the transfers were originally made. This is a really big deal--the Tiberi tapes have been akin to Dean Benedetti's Charlie Parker recordings for Coltrane fans. -
Yes, “Tales from Topographic Oceans” Atlantic 2 LP set, LP 2 Getting ready for tomorrow’s big ass box set. 400×305 18.1 KB
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I do see your points - which goes to show that approaches and expectations are different. That Vol. 1 does have its merits and like I said, I usually find his thoughts interesting and useful "food for thought" when listening to the music. Beyond this, however, my point just is that - to put it bluntly - "if you name facts, get the facts right." Not caring enough about factual accuracy is not the way to do it IMHO because some readers may just take incorrect facts as the real thing and then these errors risk getting carved in stone through repetition elsewhere (and become doubly hard to straighten out from then on). Happens all the time, alas ... Better not to mention facts than to mention wrong ones or go out on a limb with assumptions or speculations that don't hold water because it has long been shown that things are not that way. And of course the requirement of factual accuracy applies to the "Listening to Prestige" label history too (in fact to any such book). I didn't take it to be one, either. Maybe the sales blurb for the book and certain endorsements did the purpose of the book a disservice in unduly stressing the "virtually every tune from every session" angle and the resulting "reference book" claim. As for the individual session chapters as stimulants for revisiting the recordings - see my statements above.
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The comments from Big Beat Steve were helpful in pointing to errors and omissions. However, I don't believe the book was intended to be a complete discography of every Prestige recording. I am reading the book with the understanding that it is the work of a person who truly loves jazz, especially that which is on the Prestige label. Though my opinion of various recordings may not always agree with that of the author, I nonetheless always find it interesting to see the opinion of others. My personal collection of Prestige recordings is very extensive, but this book inspires me to listen to many I have not heard in a long long time.
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So do I. It just is a regrettable case of "missed opportunities" when subjects like these that are interesting and do fill a gap are marred by largely avoidable flaws. As was the case with his "Jazz With a Beat" book that I also feel covers new ground and tackles the subject from a long-overdue angle IMO. Which made me regret its unncecessarily weak spots even more. Yet I did not regret buying this as well as Vol. 1 (1949-53) of the four session books.
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Well I have all three - the Ruppli, the Swing Journal (alongside those for many other labels) and now these interesting 4 volumes and I find them all helpful and interesting. What I find I enjoyed was Tad's writing and input - not facts - I have the Ruppli etc for those (and many of the LPs/CDs also) I never saw this as a discography but as a blog (which I happened to have completely missed online - now in print) - a document about "listening to" Prestige with yes - some facts missing or lack of access to all the music available - that was never the point for me.
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When this thread came up I checked the four volumes and the subsequent volume of essays on Amazon. I read the sample material of the new essay volume and picked up the Kindle edition of Vol 1 of the session volumes. I must say that though Listening to Prestige is a dandy title, he probably should have called the book of more general essays by a different name. Anyway I have picked at that first session volume a bit, by no means as extensively as Steve. Notwithstanding the defects pointed out by Steve, which I suppose stem from compiling a blog, which are by nature a sloppier and less rigorous enterprise than a book, I found the 1st volume interesting and worth the five bucks or so it cost on Kindle. I'm not sure about investing $60 on the four paperbacks. I'm going to keep referring to vol 1 as I listen to Prestige recordings it covers and possibly pick up other volumes later. As regards the latest book of essays - Chronicles - I read the introduction and first chapter in the sample provided on Amazon. Those were pretty worthwhile and I'll probably get the book.
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I didn't know about his age, although I am aware there are different levels of research in every generation. I too have the first Ruppli Prestige edition that has quite a few omissions, and get the newer ones from a local library. There is no discography without errors or omissions, mine included. You should verify any information with a second independt source, if you can find one. In the end I would admit that enthusiasm and engagement are more important than doing nothing. As I said, I appreciate his efforts.
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