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Oh no. You can't actually play these things as that would ruin the monetary value. One play through to scrutinize for technical defects then seal it back up and lock it up in a secure location. And spending a lot of money on anything buys you expertise, apparently. @SAW, yeah, I was considering buying a few favorites just to see what the hype is all about. Once reports of the totally amateur hour quality control issues started coming in (and combined with my general displeasure with the quality of record production these days anyway) I came to my senses.

I think for most (if not all) of the folks you're talking about, it has little to do with the music and everything to do with the medium and the (re)mastering.

Never can have enough false starts.

I'd literally just finished watching Wattstax when my wife told me Hayes had passed. Really eerie timing. Too sad. And 7/4 that article was really really depressing.

Yeah, ain't those CC cards nice? Heard they're now available at Best Buy as well. Awww sheeit. Don't tell me that. LOL

Since last time (still working throught the Circuit City cards): Bruce Haack Haackula Kahil El'Zabar's Ritual Trio Africa N'da Blues Eugene Blackwell We Can't Take Life For Granted Charles Wilp Bunny THES One Lifestyle Marketing (both discs) Al Wilson Show and Tell: The Best Of Trans Am Sex Change Syl Johnson Chicago Twinight Soul Steinski What Does It All Mean (Disc 1) The Budos Band S/T Melvins Nude With Boots Koven J. Smith Fault Lines The Blacksoil Project Out of the Silent Planet The Daniel Caine Orchestra The A Team Sesso Matto Sessomatto Milt Raskin Kapu Jimmy McCracklin High On The Blues Robert Drasnin Voodoo Robert Drasnin Voodoo II Brian Auger's Oblivion Express Closer To It! (no bonus) Ted Sirota's Rebel Souls Breeding Resistance Various Ethiopiques Vol 4 (ethiojazz) Various Ethiopiques Vol 13 (the Golden Seventies) Guido De Angelis feat. Maurizio De Angelis Il Grande Racket Laurie Johnson's London Big Band Laurie Johnson's London Big Band Volume 3 Various The Beat, The Shake And The Lounge Vol. 2 Black Mountain In The Future Various Space Oddities Barry Gray Space 1999 Webster Young For Lady John Fahey The Yellow Princess Andy Bey Tuesdays in Chinatown The Poppy Family A Good Thing Lost: 1968-1973 Matthew Shipp Pastoral Composure Various The Indestructible Beat of Soweto - Volume One Gojira The Link Various Cinematic: Classic Film Music Remixed Tommy McCook Blazing Horns/Tenor in Roots Lafayette Afro Rock Band Soul Makossa Joe Pass Virtuoso Grachan Moncur III Octet Exploration Teddy Charles Evolution Spaceways Incorporated Version Soul Mike Jackson And The Soul Providers The Revenge Of Mister Mopoji Alan Pasqua The Antisocial Club Basil Kirchin Particles Reverend Organdrum Hi-Fi Stereo Dub Trio Another Sound Is Dying Tappa Zukie From the Archives Various Artists - Silva Screen Records Battle of the Planets (disc 1) Sonny Stitt Just The Way It Was Scarling So Long, Scarecrow Yoshinori Sunahara Pan Am The Sound of the 70s Melvins Singles 1- 12 Siah & Yeshua dapoED The Visualz Anthology Various Rarities From The Bob Hite Vaults Bettye Swann The Money Recordings Joe Simon Greatest Hits: The Spring Years Spencer Wiggans The goldwax Years Various The Goldwax Story Vol. 1 (16 tracks) Various The Mirwod Soul Story Various The Soul of Money Records Various The Soul of Spring Various The Goldwax Story Vol. 2 Various The Mirwod Soul Story Vol. 2 Various The Soul of Money Records Vol. 2 (18 Tracks) Various The Aroc & Sylvia Story Various The Spring Story (19 tracks) Various Dootone Rock 'N' Rhythm And Blues Various Golden State Soul Various The Soul of Spring Vol. 2 Various The In-Kraut 1 Fatback Band 21 Karat Fatback : Best Of Various LA's Silver Soul Various Italo Disco (no 1, 5, or 7) Various Northern Soul - Rare Gems Millie Jackson Caught Up Quasimode Oneself Likeness Various The American Boogie Down (disc 2) Christian Prommer's Drumlesson Drumlesson Vol. 1 Various Birth of Motor Town (-2) MC5 Babes In Arms Coleman Hawkins At Ease With (RVG) Coleman Hawkins The Hawk Relaxes (RVG) Grace Cathedral Park In The Evenings of Regret Jimmy McGriff Do'in Time Sonny Stitt Night Letter Dwight Trible Living Water Westminster Philharmonic Orchestra & Alwyn The Bride of Frankenstein - Music By Franz Waxm-n Billy Higgins 3/4 For Peace Charlie Patton The Best of Coleman Hawkins S/T Coleman Hawkins The Hawk Swings Alexander Von Schlippenbach Trio Pakistani Pomade Nat Hendrick & The Swans Henry Stone Presents Andre Previn Holst: The Planets Jazz Band de Free Ego Various Milky Disco Various Stax Instrumentals Dizzy Gillespie Bahiana Eddie Floyd Eddie Loves You So John Barry Game of Death/Night Games Professor Genius A Jean Giraud Part 1 Various The Northern Souljers Meet Hi - Rhythm Various Aquarius Rock: The Hip Reggae World of Herman Chin-Loy Various Out on a Funky Trip James Moody The World is a Ghetto Various Good Things - The Story Of Sadia Records Funk Wallace Roney Jazz Various Darker Than Blue: Soul From Jamdown Various Junjo Presents A Live Session / Aces International Barry Gray The Best of the Thunderbirds Art Blakey Live at the Monterey Jazz Festival 1972 Pulp We Love Life

From my personal expirence: 1) Worked at a university school of music where I stumbled across a large classical record collection that had been donated years ago. The collection was literally decomposing in the back corner of a storage area, which happened to be an old shower room complete with leaky pipes (our facilities were an old elementary school at the time.) I'd asked around about this and was told that since it was donated or willed we couldn't just dispose of it (or auction it off) but we had no place to store it nor any resources to do anything with it. Aside from that, it was 98% records and the rest open reel tape and players for both weren't exactly easily available on campus. As far as I know, the records were buried when they knocked down that old school after moving to the new facilities. I can say this because I would have been the one who would have packed them up and/or moved them and no one ever had me do anything with them. 2) Different university, this time in the radio station. Many years prior to me getting on staff, someone had donated a pretty good sized 78 collection. The collection was taking up most of the space in a production studio. I'm hoping it had been raided by the guy who did the classic jazz show, as it was in pretty sad shape, having been pretty poorly cared for. Again, they were moving facilities, this time they weren't even going to have turntables at the new place (which was part of why I left, as it was pretty impossible to do a show where 75% of what you play is vinyl if they won't even give you a turntable.) I have no idea what happened to those records. I never saw them again after the move. 3) Worked at Half Price Books for a short time. I never got into the purchasing, but I can tell you a few things. First off, as everyone knows, you aren't going to get very much at HPB. There don't seem to be any hard fast rules about how it works though. About all I know is they make an offer on anything. I know that if you find one where someone knows a thing or two about music, you're likely to get a better deal. However, the way it works is everyone does the buys so your chances of having someone how knows are as likely as having someone who knows nothing about music at all. I also know CDs are going to bring more than records. From my own experience, I brought a ton of CDs in there (maybe between 500-750) and got almost $600. On another day, I brought several hundred records in and got about $13. Don't take any of this as gospel, like I said, I never did purchasing. 4) From my friends who work in the public libraries here, donated records end up in the library sales. They got rid of their records years ago. About ten years ago, I worked at yet another university in the library where they held all the audio-visual stuff and at that time, the records were being phased out and I'd imagine they're all gone by now. In the past year, I've trimmed a lot out of my collection and plan on trimming further because I just don't need it. I really don't have a good answer about what to do with it. The records I've been donating to Goodwill as hauling the stuff up to HPB, waiting around and getting less than $20 just isn't worth it. For a long time, I was selling CDs on half and amazon marketplace, but frankly, it's gotten to be such a buyer's market with that stuff, I'm finding it not worth my time. After their fees and postage, I was doing good to average about $3.50 a disc. Sure it's a better average than taking it to HPB, but you also end up going to the post office several times a week and dealing with customers who have become increasingly needy, demanding and dumber in the four years I've been using those services. It's almost a second job between answering stupid emails and packaging and running to the post office. So, I really don't know. I'm pretty much in your situation. I stressed about it for a while, but I think I'm just reaching the "fuck it" stage and just want the stuff out of my house and to have a more manageable collection. It's a little frustrating, not so much for the money I have wrapped up in it as it is the fact that there's good stuff here that I know someone else would dig. But I'm starting to get over that.

So, you're saying there wasn't a couch on the stage at the Vanguard?

Try moving a couple of times. I guarantee after boxing, schleping and unboxing a bunch of vinyl a few times and still seeing them collecting dust, you'll find the next move ends at Goodwil, justl like I did. After my last move, I took about 6-700 records straight to the thrift store because they were exactly the kind of records you're describing, stuff I was never going to listen to and was only holding on to because nobody is buying. In spite of an alleged vinyl resurgence, like Hot Ptah says, unless you have really rare or immaculate stuff, it's worthless, so my advice is to play it or toss it.

Dusty Groove used to carry it. I picked up a copy for cheap, less than $9, IIRC. Nifty little CD.

Yeah, I've been trying to make heads or tails of this one too. Crownstar, Crown, Modern, Flair, United Superior, Custom, and Riveria are all names I've seen at eMusic with this material. Looks like whoever has the rights to the Crown/Modern stuff decided to cash in. The interesting thing is, on some of this stuff, not only are there a few different versions to chose from, but there's even session tapes out there. So, if the album had a stereo and mono version, a reissue somewhere alonge the way (usually with the highs rolled off for some reason) and any out takes, you can find all that stuff at eMusic anyway. The nice thing is, the stuff I've downloaded sounds a million times better than the old vinyl. It's just kind of a puzzle figuring out which version of the Ted Nash Peter Gunn album (for one example where I think every scrap of tape on this album is at eMusic) to snag.

Herbie Hancock Box Disc 1 (used to have some of this VSOP stuff. Nice to have it back.)

If you feel guilty about that, then I'd feel real guilty about mentioning the Art Tatum Complete Pablo Solo Masterpieces box also mismarked at 99 cents. Oops, did I say that out loud?

Weren't they on their own (?) label BIZARRE that was distributed through Verve? From what I have read in books about Zappa, the first few Mothers albums were on Verve, but Verve's censorship of the "We're Only In It For The Money" album led Zappa to leave Verve for another label. And Bizarre as a label started when Zappa left Verve for Reprise in 1969. IIRC there's a mention of Bizarre as a production company on the inside of Lumpy Gravy, which was one of the last of the Verve albums.

Howard Tate and writer/producer Jerry Ragavoy were both from Philadelphia - Tate was born in Ga., but was raised in Philly. Maybe they were from South Philly? But hey, labels of any kind - Southern Soul or whatever - don't mean a lot. It's the music that counts. Great record and great call, Cap. LOL, well, you're right about geography, but I think it's fair to say Tate's record sounds much more Memphis than Philly. Either way, it's the music that counts. Too true and this is really a gem of soul music, whatever you wanna call it.

All this talk of the non-jazz artists on Verve and not a mention of Howard Tate? There, I just did it. Get It While You Can is probably my favorite male vocalist Southern Soul album, and no less than Otis Redding declared it the bible of Southern Soul. If also has some of the most pointless Leonard Feather notes I've read and was probably the album that turned me off reading liner notes.

June, my 90 + some CC boosters: Spiritualized Songs in A & E (downloaded most of, then it dissapeared, to return 7/15?) Shudder to Think Get Your Goat At The Drive In Relationship of Command Eli "Paperboy" Reid Roll With You Pete Rock NY's Finest Various I Like It Like That Jerry Butler The Ice Man Jungle Brothers Straight Out The Jungle Envy A Dead Sinking Story Envy Compiled Fragments Liquid Liquid S/t Ladytron Velocifero McCoy Tyner Fly With The Wind Nat Adderley Work Song (Keepnews) Various Daptone 7 Inch Singles Collection Vol. 2 Various Daptone 7 Inch Singles Collection Vol. 1 Jack McDuff Tough Duff Jesse Belvin The Blues Balladeer Joe Bataan Subway Joe Joe Bataan Mr. New York & the East Side Kids Jimmy Reed I'm Jimmy Reed Hiromi's Sonicbloom Beyond Standard John Patton Soul Connection Alvin Queen Jammin' Uptown Lonnie Smith/Alvin Queen Lenox and Seventh Sonny Rollins Freedom Suite (Keepnews) Pacific VU Longplay 2 James hunter The Hard Way Etta Jones Don't Go To Strangers (RVG) The Blessing All Is Yes Goblin Buio Omega Goblin Amo Non Amo Gil Melle Primitive Modern / Quadrama Louis and Bebe Barron Forbidden Planet Gregory Isaacs Mr. Isaacs Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra Strings and Things Various Easy Tempo Experience Vol.1 Various Easy Tempo Experience Vol.2 Various Easy Tempo Experience Vol.3 Various Summer Records Anthology: 1974 - 1988 Mingering Mike Super Gold Greatest Hits Franco Micalizzi Chi Sei? Various Nigeria 70 Various Nigeria Special Modern Highlife, Afro-sounds & Nigerian Blues 1970-76 Earth The Bees Made Honey In The Lions Skull Earth Hex Boris Smile Nomo Ghost Rock Cool Kids The Bake Sale Black Nasty Talking to the People Slowdive Pygmalion American Music Club Love Songs for Patriots Charlie Parker Boston, 1952 Charlie Parker Montreal, 1953 Mose Allison Mose Allison Sings Cybotron Clear Various Old School Rarities: The Electro Jams I highly recommend that Eli "Paperboy" Reed album if you dig pre-Papa's Got a Brand New Bag R&B. Really great stuff without sounding like a self conscious throwback.

So, in other words, $200 for a dub of a first generation copy?

That ion one is the exact same as my battery powered Numark that I take recordshopping. It's good for sampling vinyl in the wild but frankly sucks as a playback device. All the other USB tables I've seen start with a really cheap turntable and go from there. Do you already have a 'table? You'd be better off running the tape out of your system to the in on your soundcard than any of the USB decks I've seen out there. Unless you're not picky at all about quality and don't mind if the end result sounds like a children's record player from the 60s.

Covering this album, of course:

I'm glad people like this album, but I'm also glad I'm not alone in my assessment of it, which is pretty much same as yours.

Tough, tough tough. If I could cheat, I'd agree with the Rhino Yardbird Suite mentioned upthread. Otherwise, it's be a toss up between the Dial masters, the Strings or Royal Roost.

Holy cats! I've yet to be disappointed with any of their stuff I've picked up. I've also noticed Storyville is still bringing more stuff. Maybe time to raid the Circuit City again and hope they still have the $5 booster cards.

or just The Complete Buddy Rich Bus Sessions And howsabout The Complete Impulse Recordings of Brass Fever?

The Complete Columbia Recordings of Freddie Hubbard