colinmce

Nice to hear someone say that. I put it on last week too and was pretty unmoved, as usual. It's a one-of-a-kind album no doubt but it never totally pulls me in. "All Blues" remains the highlight to me while the slower tracks like "Flamenco Sketches" and "Blue In Green" just come off as dull. I'm not trying to suggest the album doesn't deserve its status-- but it does take up too much space. In a discography that encompasses Walkin', Milestones, In Europe, ESP, Nefertiti... I guess I get why this one rises to the top, but I also don't.

Yep, but IMO Warne Out is even better. And what a price! Truly essential jazz, no ifs ands or buts.

PM

I'll say this: I would never bother with the Fischer if Jonathan hadn't put it out and I hadn't read his take on the session. On the face of it, it's maybe more or less what you'd expect from a mid-size Pacific Jazz date from the early 60s. It's airy, melodic, concise. I don't have a great ear for the subtleties, but I take Jonathan at his word that what's happening is unique. It's certainly not at ALL boring or by the numbers. So, as a person who doesn't listen to a ton of stuff like this, I get a lot out of it and am pretty well enraptured when listening to it. That says a lot. Of course, the package is gorgeous, too. I would fully recommend it.

I wish WXU hadn't lopped off the bass solos. I had a line on the 2nd Revelation LP that had these but missed out on it. Still kicking myself for that one.

It's all worth having. I don't think these are bootlegs, no. Just because the company isn't totally active doesn't mean the stock isn't genuine.

Wouldn't know! I lucked into a copy of 4 Compositions For Sextet. Baptised Traveller is terminally troll-priced. Really part of a larger problem at this echelon. Nobody knows any better so anyone in the circle who wants to speak, can speak. It's no coincidence that those in the circle are artistically conservative, no moreso than when it comes to jazz. How else did a guy like Stanley Crouch become so esteemed?

Glad someone's picking those up. They're exceptional.

He may have been mentioned upthread, but Chuck Domanico is astounding on the Anthony Ortega Revelation material.

A crucial bass album not for the faint of heart is Vinny Golia's Haunting The Spirits Inside Them with Joēlle Léandre & Ken Filiano. Nuts. Filiano in general is under appreciated. He brought a lot to Bill Dixon's late music, especially Tapestries. Then, of course Bill Dixon's music is bass heaven, two or three going at a time. I love that. Max Johnson always impresses me. I really wish more of his free improv groups were on record, since what he's released thus far is all very composed. But lots of fine sets on YouTube, usually with Weasel Walter.

Without trying to be leading or antagonistic, I truly wonder what he thinks of Brötzmann, Parker, Bailey, et al in the late 60s-early 70s, or the early AACM recordings, given that the "trap" of free jazz had "run it's course" as early as 1966?

I respectfully disagree. It's legitimizing junk writing and criticism like this that keeps the ignorance flowing right into the minds of people who don't know any better and take essays like this at their word. It's damaging. Mainstream culture may never really get jazz right, but it never had to get is this wrong.

If you want to shell out, sure. But you could get a lot of the rest elsewhere, cheaper.

The map on this is very helpful! All places I know of, but never knew where they really were.

I think any Monk is worth having. But I would consider the Big Band an essential item. The Jazz Workshop is certainly worth your time, if ultimately slightly redundant.

I actually don't have that record. Now I don't know whether to get the LP or the CD... I do prefer the original art, but prefer CDs as a medium.

'Twould be wise to lock the thread about now, methinks.

No, he's not on it. It's from March 2014.

I bet the Tyshawn album is good. That copy is dreadful.

I also see there is a new ICP Orchestra called East of the Sun.

Two new ones from Corbett vs Dempsey: a Tomeka Reid score and a 1998 WNUR broadcast with Kowald/Kessler/Lonberg-Holm.

Strongly thirded.

Well, I must say if anyone can translate that type of intensity to disc, it's Berne.

Alert Sean Hannity!!

I meant nothing by that. I have defended Berne's ECM music on the board all along. I have zero issues with either record. I just meant it's unlikely that a group like Ice Station Zebra would be recorded for the label, and most likely because they have a full and ever-growing roster and I doubt Berne has carte blanche to record any group he wants, which I also think is fine. It's OK.....