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I will listen again to see what differences there are in the trumpeters between 'Judyful' and 'New Date'. It was Lateef himself who claimed he never recorded with Lee. IIRC, he was asked specifically about this session. Musicians are known to be wrong about their own discographies, of course, but apparently Yusef was adamant. On the other hand, no one suggested any other tenor player. I'm going to go with Lateef unless someone else can put forth another name. I certainly am not enough of a Lateef expert to call it one way or another. I was just going on Lateef's probably faulty recollections, and the fact that the tenor player on 'Judyful' is much more aggressive than on the other tracks (i.e. less 'polished'). If ever I get to talk to Fuller again, I will ask him. He has a pretty good memory, because he did recall some details about Golden Boy (not the recording date, alas), as well as the Monday Night At Birdland date. Bertrand.

Well, that's the thing, I don't find the slurred licks on 'Judyful' to be all that Lee-like. They sound much less cleanly executed than on the three other tracks. If it was the last tune of the 6/7 session, then Lee's chops were much weaker by the end of the date, assuming 'Judyful' was the last track recorded. This is the case with Mother Ship - by the time they got to the last tune of the session (the title track), Lee's chops were gone for the day. His playing is much stronger on the other tracks. But this was in 1969, when we know Lee had gone through some issues with his chops. The Fuller date is 1960, when Lee had yet to go through these problems. As for Lateef, I don't know his work well enough to say. It sounds to me like the tenor player on 'Judyful' is much more aggressive than on the first three tracks, but that's just a gut feeling. I'm not sure about 'New Date'. Bertrand.

I highly recommend this recording. Sad to think Dewy was supposed to do this date but passed just a weeks before. Oliver Lake stepped in and plays wonderfully, as does Tim Hagans. 'Boody' and 'Love is' are especially great. Bertrand.

I'll mostly remember him for his stint with the NRA.

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How does Leon Mitchell fit in as A & R guy for Blue Note? Quebec and Pearson are always mentioned, but never Mitchell. My understanding is that he is still active in Philly. Bertrand.

I didn't know anything about the Richard Pierson date. Does anyone have any more info? Pierson has been drumming with Grachan Moncur III for quite a few years now. Bertrand.

OK, we're getting somewhere, but there are still many gaps. I see now that the 'Accident' listed by Mike Fitzgerald is an unissued take, probably with Harden. However, there are two takes of 'New Date' on my CD (a 20-bit Japanese digi-pack). They returned to the studio the next day, but with a different bassist and drummer. I can buy that. But my ears tell me a different story. It's definitely Lee Morgan on 'Accident' (two takes), 'Darryl's Minor' (two takes) and 'Be Back Ta-Reckla' (what does this mean, BTW). But I'm pretty sure it is NOT Morgan on 'Judy-Ful'. Is it Harden? The presence of Tyner is not as obvious as I thought, but no one seems to question this, so I'll buy it. Lateef is a problem. I need to listen to 'New Date' again, but for the other tracks I think the tenor on 'Judy-Ful' is NOT the same person as on the three tracks with Morgan. Furthermore, the tenor on 'Judy-Ful' is much more 'aggressive' - his solo is almost a bit 'out' and definitely not as comfortable and polished and straight-ahead as the tenor/flute on the other tracks. I would agree it's Lateef on this track. Furthermore, I have outside information that Lateef and Morgan never recorded together, so this further confirms my opinion that it is not Lateef on the tracks with Morgan. So my (still tentative) conclusions are: Lee Morgan is the trumpet player on 'Accident', 'Darryl's Minor' and 'Be Back Ta-Reckla'. The trumpet player on the other two pieces is not Morgan. We're pretty sure it's Harden on 'A New Date', so it must be him as well on 'Judy-Ful', which means Keepnews was slightly off. Lateef is the tenor on 'Judy-Ful', so probably on 'New Date' as well. Someone else (who?) is on tenor/flute on the tracks with Morgan. Anyone else listened to this recently? Bertrand.

There has always been some confusion about the dates and personnel for the Savoy album Images by Curtis Fuller. Among other things, some discographers claim Lee Morgan is on all tracks, but last time I listened I was pretty sure the trumpet player on some of the tracks is not Lee. Also, there are rumors that Yusef Lateef is not on the tracks with Lee despite what most discographies show. I will listen again later, but here is what I found so far. According to Jazzdiscography.com, it's Wilbur Harden on two tracks: Date: June 6, 1960 Location: Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ Label: Savoy Curtis Fuller (ldr), Yusef Lateef (ts), Wilbur Harden (t), Curtis Fuller (tb), McCoy Tyner (p), Jimmy Garrison (b), Clifford Jarvis (d) a. Accident (Curtis Fuller) b. A New Date - 05:02 (Curtis Fuller) When I listen later, I can certainly confirm the presence of McCoy Tyner, who I could recognize even if blindfolded and tossed into a mine-shaft. I will also probably be able to confirm that the trumpeter is not Lee. Don't know enough about Harden to say if it's him or not. As usual, jazzdisco.org muddies the waters by claiming Lee is on all tracks. The Matsumura discography is more discerning: SESSION 071 1960-06-07 Curtis Fuller Sextet Lee Morgan (tp), Curtis Fuller (tb), Yusef Lateef (ts), McCoy Tyner (p), Milt Hinton (b), Bobby Donaldson (ds), NYC, June 7, 1960 [ 1] Daryl's Minor (Fuller) (1) [ 2] Daryl's Minor (Fuller) - Alt.Take 2 (1) CD-only [ 3] Accident (Fuller) (1) [ 4] Accident (Fuller) - Alt.Take 3 (1) CD-only [ 5] Be Back Ta-Reckla (Fuller) (1) [ 6] Judy-Ful (Fuller) (1) They contradict Mike Fitzgerald on 'Accident', but not for 'A New Date'. Again, I will be able to confirm if it's Tyner. Not sure if I can tell if it's not Lateef. I will listen, of course, but I thought I'd ask first to see if anyone has researched this already. I have a copy of our friend Claude Schlouch's Morgan discography, but I can't seem to locate it right now. I'll come back later to post my conclusions after listening. Bertrand.

Presenting Jackie McLean is the AD-LIB session from 10/21/55, correct? If so, I do have everything. Thanks, Bertrand.

Everything on this set is previously issued, correct? Bertrand.

The comment about the book is intriguing... Bertrand.

Is the sound fixed?

That's good news! I think there's still tickets. Any hotels to recommend in the area? I'm coming from DC with my mother, so I don't want to drive straight back to D.C. if I can avoid it. I'm psyched - I haven't seen Wayne in two years. Bertrand.

'Ochi Chernye' is also the song that is played every time you open the music box in Shop Around The Corner, but I digress... Wayne sent me a PM through organissimo last night confirming that he did not write this piece, so that's that. Bertrand.

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Neither Baker nor the composition are listed in the index of the paperback. This does not guarantee 100% that they are not mentioned in the text, but I don't remember anything. I did not include the piece in the appendix since I knew nothing about it. It may be an ommission, or AMG could be wrong. They say Cat Stevens' 'Lady D'arbanville' is by Wayne... One day I hope to sit down with Wayne and clarify some things. I'm sure the appendix is incomplete. Does the CD credit Wayne? Bertrand.

This recently came to my attention. Does anyone have the CD Broken Wing by Chet Baker in the Jazz In Paris series? AMG claims the piece 'Black Eyes' is by Wayne Shorter. The sound bites do not sound like any Wayne piece I know. Could this be an unrecorded piece that Wayne gave to Chet, like the four he gave to Lee Morgan ('Edda' etc.)? Do the liner notes say anything? Thanks, Bertrand.

Anyone going to see Wayne Shorter at the Kimmel center this Friday? Bertrand.

You mean Barbara Burton. I think Don Alias was also involved. Bertrand.

'Sidewinder' was shortened to make way for the credits. I think they don't actually finish it in the film. I once dreamed it was incomplete because Lee was shot during the performance...

I think Gloria Coleman is still around. I'm not sure how to find her. Did Grachan Moncur III know your dad? He was friends with John Patton. He is easy to track down in Newark. Good luck! I think it is wonderful that you are trying to teach your kids about your father's legacy. Bertrand.

PM sent on some Savoys. Bertrand.

This is great. The Grant Green Blindfold test was a surprise. Bertrand.

Michael, Are these scores you mention above available somewhere? Bertrand.