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Hmmm...So maybe they did not look at the page of photos in that Yearbook.

Does it say that Robert Torrence is the photographer? This does sound like one of the ones I saw yesterday...

I saw the collection yesterday - great material. Some photos in the Yearbook of Groove Holmes gigs, but not enough clues to put a date on the Micky Fields record.

I saw a Yearbook yesterday in the Left Bank collection at UMBC that had a page of photos from the gig. That might be one of them. The photographer Bob Torrence liked to use that blurring effect a lot, I guess to make sure they looked like they were in action and not posed. Normally, the producers would have access to all the Yearbooks since John Fowler has a complete set. There are some amazing photos in there: Lee Morgan, Jackie McLean, Tyrone Washington with Horace Silver... The originals are probably lost...

What photos are in the booklet of the Understanding CD?

It was never lost, and I think it was already out in some bootleg form. The others in this series were CDrs, so screw that. I have the hour VHS, I thought it was good enough for me. I would buy the CD/DVD if it ever came out officially. But there are tracks I have never heard, like the one with Jackie McLean.

I took it somewhere about two months ago. So far, so good.

Hmmm...there's a Monk show you have to pay for at Wolfgang's Vault.

One more oddity begging further research - Ray Draper playing TRUMPET with the Messengers in the late 70s?!?

A lot is being left out, I can tell you. There was a disinformation/misinformation campaign. Check out this video in which I try to get Fowler to get into specifics with little luck. One thing I am sure, and a statement in the video confirms this, there was much infighting. Probably why a lot of tapes were lost. I think both the founders were ousted at some point. A key person (who died last year) was Mildred Battle, I can tell she was very controlling. I met her a couple of times but could not get much out of her. Key member Judy Webber just died. She took tons of photos, but she told me they were not organized in any way. Who knows what will happen with that. I had gotten her number for a guy doing a documentary on Baltimore pianist Yusuf Salim. He called her but did not get much. I would have called her had I known she was about to check out. (117) Baltimore Jazz Conference 2020: History and Highlights of the Left Bank Jazz Society - YouTube Beyond the recordings which are of course a key element but sorely mismanaged, there is a lot more history to pin down. One nice development here, I am visiting next week - apparently, I will be the fist to visit since they got the collection in December 2020: Left Bank Jazz Society Collection - Coll312 (pastperfectonline.com) Left Bank Jazz Society Inc. Collection (umbc.edu) PS: I know Tadd Dameron never played Left Bank, I will let them know when I visit. Also, the links above work funny. You can also google 'UMBC Left Bank collection 312' and 'UMBC Left Bank Finding Aid'.

The Mickey Fields is more complicated than that due to incomplete listings in the Yearbooks. I also see that Mike Fitzgerald has another gap in his listings. I have to compile a list of updates for him. So starting with the first gigs in 1964, here is what I see for Groove Holmes in the Yearbooks: 1) 10/29/67: No personnel listed other than Holmes. 2) 3/24/68: Holmes and Fields, no other personnel listed. 3) 8/18/68: Holmes, Fields, Freeman, Jackson - but this is the annual 'Jazz on the Chesapeake' boat ride, not the Famous Ballroom. 4) 5/18/69: Thornel Schwartz on guitar, but a last minute substitution is not impossible. 5) 3/1/70: Holmes/Schwartz/Jackson, no Fields. 6) 8/16/70: Same trio, boat ride. 7) 3/7/71: Different band, congas instead of tenor 8) 8/15/71: Boat ride, only Holmes listed. 9) 1/30/72: Different band 10) 6/4/72: Different band 11) 3/25/73: Holmes quartet, no personnel given 12) 8/19/73: Holmes and McGriff 13) 2/10/74: Holmes and McGriff 14) 6/23/74: Holmes and McGriff 15) 12/1/74: Holmes quartet, only 3 people listed 16) 5/4/75 - different band 17) 8/28/75 - trio outdoors 18) 5/2/76 - quintet 19) 4/24/77: With Mickey Fields, but otherwise different band 20) 6/1/86 - trio, no personnel listed 21) 9/10/89 - trio, no personnel listed, moonlight cruise Yearbooks end in 1989, so getting dates after is tough. Holmes died in 1991. More gigs are possible. The CD-R I have of the Fields record has 4/27/77 penciled in on the LP cover. The closest is 4/24/77, but that is with Fields, Namuth and a drummer named Darryl Washington. So not this one. So the LP is most likely 67 or 68. All three could have that personnel, but only one (the boat ride) actually lists those four. Would they have recorded the gig on the boat though? Holmes is just one example to demonstrate how much work still needs to be done. Reviews in newspapers etc. need to be located to confirm personnel. The Yearbooks are very inaccurate. Examples: 1) The personnel for the Duke Pearson Big Band is quite different than what is in the Yearbook. Uptown probably got it off the part of the tape he did not release. 2) 9/28/69 is allegedly Thad Jones/Pepper Adams with Richard Williams, but I have a tape of part of this (no idea where it came from, Fowler told me he did not have it). There is only Williams, no Thad. BUT it is not a full concert. Maybe Thad showed up late, and took over from Williams. Or maybe the part I don't have has two trumpets. Mayne Thad told them to stop recording when he showed up, or maybe what I have is an audience recording. Someone told me they remember Williams doing the whole gig, and Thad never showed... 3) One Lee Morgan gig shows no bassist. Billy Harper does not remember doing a gig with Lee with no bass. Much research to be done. Newspapers, first-hand accounts etc. are needed.

I can try to get more details on that as part of my research. From all accounts, these gigs were a fun hang. I know there was a lady with cakes, and fried chicken. None of that artsy-fartsy nouvelle cuisine.

I was referring to the booklet in the Etta Jones CD. Those Allen Housers are Left Bank? I heard him and Arnold Sterling in DC a couple of times.

So the next question - for the two CD sets (McLean, Wynton Kelly '67, Henderson, Wynton Kelly '68, Dexter, Ammons/Stitt), do we think these are the full performances or did they still leave out some tunes? Shows were 5 to 9PM, but there were breaks with food vendors and all that extraneous stuff... Note: The Walter Namuth had extra tracks for those who did the kickstarter. An hour and 46 minutes of music, still a little light...

Of course. They dropped off due to a cut and paster error in my Word Document. Exactly why I posted here. Added.

I believe this is the complete list, or am I missing something? I am leaving off the Lee Morgan (not from Baltimore) and Sun Ra: Of Mythic Worlds (origin is still unknown). The date on the Mickey Fields is still unclear. Left Bank Jazz Society – Commercially Available Recordings Jimmy Heath/Freddie Hubbard: Jazz Gems 6/13/65 Walter Namuth: Left Bank ’66 1/9/66 Blue Mitchell: Baltimore 1966 3/20/66 Coleman Hawkins: Supreme 9/25/66 Jackie McLean: Dr. Jackle 12/18/66 Jackie McLean: Tune Up 12/18/66 Freddie Hubbard: Fastball 4/23/67 Wynton Kelly: Left Bank ’67 11/12/67 Joe Henderson: Four! 4/21/68 Joe Henderson: Straight, No Chaser 4/21/68 Wynton Kelly: Left Bank ’68 9/22/68 Al Cohn/Zoot Sims: As Easy As Pie 1968 10/27/68 Gary Bartz: Home! 3/30/69 Duke Pearson: Baltimore 1969 4/27/69 Dexter Gordon: LTD 5/4/69 Dexter Gordon: XXL 5/4/69 Roy Brooks: The Free Slave 4/26/70 Roy Brooks: Understanding 11/1/70 Sonny Stitt: Just The Way It Was 3/21/71 George Coleman: Baltimore 5/23/71 Cedar Walton: Three Sundays In The Seventies 9/5/71; 2/27/72; 2/3/74 Etta Jones: A Soulful Sunday 2/27/72 Gene Ammons/Sonny Stitt: God Bless Jug And Sonny 6/24/73 Gene Ammons/Sonny Stitt: Left Bank Encores 6/24/73 Stan Getz: My Foolish Heart 5/20/75 Mickey Fields: The Astonishing Mickey Fields XXX

I am not optimistic that the son will release any of the projects the father never got around to, e.g. the rest of the Duke Pearson Left Bank dates and the Grant Green Left Bank with John Patton (1966). I wish he would at least give the tapes back...

I was assuming someone would say it was already discussed. This must have just happened.

I see that Dusty Groove has two Carlos Garnett Muse CDs reissued under Muse/Soul Brothers (UK). Is this just some set-up Carlos arranged, or are there more Muse titles by other artists in the Pipeline?

I never thought to look there because it is not in English. Stupid me. I was worried I would get a translation. I want the original in French. Definitely recommended?

Where can I find this book?

Well they played music too. The guest was the guy from Left Bank with the tapes.

This is about to be discussed on weaa.org

Not inconsistent with 'Cocksucker Blues'. A shame Sony did not put out all the sessions with Sam Rivers as part of the bootleg series.

Unissued Julius Watkins Mercury sessions.