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I still don't get Concord's angle.

Thanks for digging this up. So one the one hand, we know that Feather pursued her and she rejected him. Did he then proceed to sabotage her career as a revenge? Not sure, but we do know that he started bad-mouthing her playing, accusing her of being a Horace Silver clone. Such statements from him could not help her career, he was a tastemaker, for better or for worse. Would he have made these statements regardless? Maybe. Her personality made it hard for her to pursue a career in jazz anyway, and it looks like she was told to 'get a real job' but the fact is, whatever passion she may have had for jazz was sucked out of her, and we cannot discount the possibility that Feather's behavior may have been part of it. Yes, there were other factors, but maybe she could have otherwise overcome them. At some point, she was passionate. The anecdote with the radio proves it. Still does not explain why Feather briefly championed a number of female artists but then did not follow up. Maybe he saw no reason to in terms of what was in it for him, that is possible. But other scenarios are possible as well. We will probably never know the truth unless there is substantial documentation as there is for Jutta.

And it is not a needle drop?

The LP is limited. The CD will also be ultimately, nothing Blue Note stays in print that long.

What would happen to Impulse and Blue Note? I am worried this can be another Concord type of fiasco. Did we ever figure out what their game was? Obviously, they have no respect for the music.

Yes, all this is true. We are speculating as to what went on in her head, so let me throw out another theory. Perhaps she did not listen to that kind of music anymore because it made her depressed every time she thought of why she quit music. In general terms, imagine this scenario for any female artist. You work hard to learn and perfect your craft, you think you get a break and then everything goes to pieces because you did not agree to sleep with some producer. Not only does he stop championing you, but he goes out of his way to bad mouth you and blacklist you. All he has to do is get the word out to other movers and shakers in the business that you are trouble, and your career is ruined. No one is told that 'you are trouble' is codespeak for 'won't put out'. This shit has been going on for thousands of years. You can't make it right. But understanding how far reaching the implications of this behavior has been is a good first step. It is exactly what happened with Harvey Weinstein. And they did not get their careers back, did they? When was the last time Annabella Sciorra had a leading role?

So I may not find too many who knew him who will root for him? The first thing I knew about him is that he always pushed his own originals onto artists whose sessions he produced. Highly unethical right there. But if he harassed female artists, that is much worse.

Theoretically, the reels would be lost in the fire or even tossed out years ago. Our only hope is those backup tapes Rudy made for Coltrane on a separate machine. I will never understand why Coltrane was the only one who got backup copies to take home. Archie Shepp told me he did not.

Yes, I am thinking of Jutta. Was the anecdote in question mentioned on Jazzwax? I wasn't sure if the person, who is Hipp's biographer and a good friend of mine, had told the story to many people. On the other hand, she told the story in a Public Forum, it was not in a private conversation. Jutta certainly had other things going on, but would she have stayed in music had Feather not abused his position and destroyed her reputation? Perhaps. Father's actions did not help her life or career. Assuming there is more ugliness on Feather that could surface, I am not convinced that his being deceased changes anything. He is not there to defend himself, granted, but if it turns out there was a systematic pattern which resulted in many careers being ruined, I think it is fair that it be known. But I have no information beyond the Jutta incident, so I will sit back and wait.

They are definitely starting to stand up against the BS. I already know of one documented case of harassment which essentially ended the artist's career after he turned his back on her. Sounds like there is more to the story. Is it not time to get the record straight? The Harvey Weinstein anology may be more applicable here. Further research is needed...

I want to find out more about Leonard Feather's interaction with all those female artists who he briefly promoted before moving on...

Oh, we are making a list of rock songs about underage girls now? There are many.

Some of the very last Coltrane studio dates are unissued and presumed lost, I guess in the Universal Fire. But did Coltrane take copies home that Ravi might have? That is how the extra Love Supreme material was found. If I understand the story correctly, Blue World was a rogue session neither Impulse nor Bob Thiele knew about, but Rudy was in on the secret. That is why the tapes were being safely preserved in the Canadian cold rather than tossed with the others into the Universal bonfire. Could other artists have also done secret sessions for other labels? Several clues point to the possibility that Lee Morgan may have made some rogue sessions for Roulette in the 60s. My first attempt at looking into this did not pan out - the vault most likely to have Lee Morgan Roulette dates only had the half session that was released. This does not mean the sessions do not exist, just that if tapes survived, they are not where they should be.

I was waiting for Zev to try to take credit for 'discovering' the Blakey session, but he stopped short of doing that. It came pretty close on one blog though...

Remember that Michael played the session for Wayne in 1995, and he stopped it after two minutes. This means that he does not want it out but also that the tape still existed in 1995. I doubt Michael gave it to Wayne that day. When I worked on the inventory of compositions for the Wayne biography, the answer I got regarding this session was that Wayne did not remember it at all. A little different from his reaction in 1995. The Blakey session was different in that the leader was not around to object to its release. From what I have heard, the Shorter session is probably too weird for a single release, but boxed with the other three as The Road to Weather Report would make sense.

Andra Day is dreadful.

The last 4 sessions are so different from the other 8 that it would make sense to do two sets. The last 4 could be thought of as pre-Weather Report. Wayne still has to consent to the unissued session being released. If it is ever to come out, it would be in a box with the other three.

Jordi Pujol is doing the work that US labels should be doing but are not.

How old she was when they fucked for the first time is a key point here, and I am not sure it has been established that she was 18. I am not saying she wasn't. A friend of mine booked Coleman for a gig and she was there. This was in the early days, no one knew who she was. He figured they were an item and wondered if she was 18 yet. Even if she was 19, even if she initiated it, and even though one is supposed to know what one is doing at 19, he was in a position to stop it and it was morally his duty, even if she was not officially his student. Times have changed, you just don't do that shit, period.

Right, you said so a while back but the press releases still were only mentioning LPs which is why people kept asking. I will edit my post for clarity. Update: Post edited for clarity.

Correct. Even if she had initiated it, which I doubt, he was require to say no.

Music is great, of course.

So I found out 30 minutes before that they had a Zoom meeting organized by Berklee to talk about Weather Report. A number of former members there: Peter Erskine, Chester Thompson, Omar Hakim, Mino Cinelu, Alphonso Johnson, Skip Hadden, Robert Thomas and Wayne Shorter himself who seemed very happy to be reminiscing with the cats. 3.5 hours of my life could not have been better spent! Wayne mentioned Woody Sonship Theus several times, almost suggesting he was somehow involved in early Weather Report in some way. I can't remember how his name came up. He also seemed to be suggesting that Woody's heart was no longer in music after Coltrane died and that he became some sort of preacher, but that does not jibe chronologically,

So do you definitely hear some clicks and pops between 8:30 and 10:30 on 'Seven And One'? Just want to make sure it is not my CD. I will live with it, but it is disappointing that the master is definitely lost for good.

Elegant People: A History of the Band Weather Report: Bianchi, Curt: 9781493059997: Amazon.com: Books Bianchi runs this excellent website: www.weatherreportdiscography.org