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Big LOL for NOJ's Boo Radley Hell keeping up with all these damn Bulletin Boreds is work enough for anyone.

Way cool man, way cool. I'll take a Newcastle. B) smart guy...

Had another Birthday recently???????

I might have this.. I'm trying to sort out what was on each Jam Session LP 1 & @2 were the three alto sets that's the easy one 3 & 4 revolved around Baise with Edison,Getz and Wardell I have a 2lp verve called the Gillespie Sessions That has Stompin at the Savoy Lullaby in Rhythm Jam Blues Funky Blues # 2 Lullaby and Funky 2 were I think Jam Session 9 Sorting out the issues of this is difficult Abnyone got a straight list I would like to have a "Mosaic" Granz Jam Sessions.. homemade or ( preferably) otherwise LP copen.. not invited.

Unfortunately not.. but in verves best tradition there was a sigle " Best Of " CD.. might still be around And to dig up the worms there are some Definitives ( or are they Jazz Factory's) Think they are called Lester Young at the JATP and / or Charlie Parker at JATP Something like that As it's verve.. go for them... most of the key sessions no doubt will be in these.

Brad, we all have our likes and dislikes but I feell Turk never got out of Per / Mor / Endido mode.. I know it's Bill Harris on those tracks, but Turk just seems to be a crowd pleaser in the most vulgar use of the expression... haven't heard much of him elsewhere. At least the musicians on Midnight Jazz ( Perdido etc) I have heard play far less "extreme" and in my opinion, more valuable , music elswhere. Might be fun to do a "Best and A Worst of the JATP box..... There's 5 days left on that Ebay set... hell of a good price at the moment... no it's not mine...despite the Warts / ever collapsing box... least it doesn't make your fingers bleed. and all...I'm glad it's in my collection.

It would be nice if verve boxed up all the later JATP recordings that they put out on LP ... dream on Nice if they packaged them better... dream on That JATP, jatapanese screen or,whatever it is, motif type box falls apart at the slightest motion It's hell when the dog sits next to the book case and scratches. As to the music, think it should be in any Jazz fans collection.. although it varies greatly in quality, often not living up to one's expectations based on the guest list. The high spot has to be the NKC / Les Paul exchanges The Low spot...Tommy Turk???.. whatever became of him? Most typical set that began to define JATP...Perdido / Mordido/Endido... great Jazz or not? .. that's your decision.. but I admit its a fascinating listening experience to hear the crowd " manipulating" the musicians, and then the Musicians " manipulating" the crowd.

just to keep running Shoot I read my membership number as the post count... What's cool about this software is you don't get all those " Edited By...." messages Great for us one fingered typists... specially since on my keyboard, my E looks Like an L And my O now is a C.Too much traffic...or too many spilled beers?????????

The thread silthered off the topic a bit, but to answer Jazzmoose's question.. all the above are good recommendations, but I would suggest that the ONLY starting point for Muilligan are the Classic Pacific Jazz quartets. These are the recordings that established him, these contain the first recordings of many of his key compositions, and all are excellent, friendly to listen to performances ( was going to say Easy to listen to... but that might have given the wrong idea).But you can't go wrong with any of his Pacific Jazz recordings. When I look at my record collection, I'm always surprised at how much Mulligan I have.. all the Quartets ? sextets are good.. hell it's all good That being said the Concert Jazz band are often the discs I seem to turn to the most Mosaic Select is projecting a 4 disc Mulligan, based arounfd the Gerry Mulligan Songbook vol 1 ( there never were any other volumes) which was a PJ set... so if you're into Mosaic selects, I'd by pass the Songbook.. excellent though it is, and wait for that.until

This was discussed on the Old...? what was that board? If we still had a link... Someone pointed out that possibly vol 11 was no longer in the works, and if it did show up the Jazz content would not be as great. I got the impression that the label went on to more pop and midddle of the road style music. Maybe the person with that info. is wandering around here.

well Gullin is one of the few that I have heard of. I rember seeing reviews of records by him yn the Melody Maker when it was almost 100% a weekly Jazz newspaper ( sorry guys two O.F's talking) remember it got good reviews but really did get any Gullin til I came across across a cd a while back.. So I'm all for learning about people I haven't heard . past and present. I'm sure others are too.... It's an International board I'll check out the link on Billberg... never seen that name before.

Nah... none of that's the problem... you is Female.... they always win the arguments.

Bataki, if you were listening to Dankworth inthe 50's, age 15... you and I must around the same age group... maybe that's why we like / listen to these people I agree that Dankworth was important to British Jazz, hard pressed to come up with another modern Jazz alto from that era that made a ripple in the jazz firmament... Bruce Turner??? Dankworth really was the only true British Jazz big band , in some respects. Heath's band in the 50's was good, perhaps not as daring as Dankworth, but Heath seemed to drift off into Eay Listening territory I'm not a great admirer of Cleo Laine... her diction to me seeems to be overly "correct" English.. makes m feel uncomfortable to some extent. I wish Dankworth hadn't more or less devoted the last umpteen years to supporting her career... maybe British Jaz might have been all the richer for it.

Thanks for the link... I saw this advertised and wondered about it. I'll probably end up with it, though Ball and Bilk worry me a bit. Though Bilk redeemed himself, somewhat, on a recent duet album with Wally Fawkes, and a couple of earlier releases with Humph. Kenny Ball though... he can play the trumpet... but his output seems to ve remained in the TRAD, rather than traditional category.. Have you heard it?

Yeah but you added or lost an "s"

On the BNBB lots of my replies to PM 's went astray because I simply hit the reply button to a PM that had been forwarded to my email account. I found out later that this causes the reply to go to some Blue Note waste land and not the originator of the PM ( making me look rude and uncarig.... Yeah I know I am but I like to do it my way...) Is this also true here What is the best way to reply if I don't have the persons email at hand already? Thanks PD

Lets not have a discuss Wingy thread... he's made it to AAJ, he'll be over here soon enough.

Now that, at that price and condition, is QUITE a find good for you.

Damn now we're REALLY in trouble

With a little bit of luck.. and a bunch of sales we might get more Have you heard Ronnie Scotts Serious Gold? Probably the high spot of his recording career.. again only ever issued once, never on CD.. It's amazing that this situation exists. Granted the British expansion into Rock overwhelmed the record companies... but there's a lot of good music still locked up, of which the Peterson CD is a good representation.

David.. didn't set this up as a top 10 place. I actually hate ranking musicians.. used to get on at Marvin over at the other place for that...BTW I hope he is here.. not to battle with, just to be part of the group. I just wanted to try to keep references to European Jazz together. Hope Bev comes in with some of his posts. I tend still to favor Music more up to the types found on the recent Impressed CD.. but I listen to everything..curiosity and a bit more cash than I had in England helps me do that. So input from people like you and Bev is good for me....BTW once I start a thread I don't think it's my personal property.. so I don't get offended whichever way it goes.

Bataki.. I left England before Scotts was really a big Place. I was born and Lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne. that's why I'm a big supporter of the Carr brothers.. didn't get to London much. First time I ever got on a Plane was to come to America. The Big club in London when I did go there was The 100 club, but it dwindled as the years went by, turned into a Rock venue I think One year on a return trip to England, about 24 years ago now, I know because thats how old my daughter is, My wife And I stopped off in Amsterdam and Copenhagen before going to Newcastle We went to the Montmarte.. Think it was Donald Byrd that night. I remember it as a big hall with a very high stage for the musicians. My wife is not really into Jazz, and Byrd didn't seem on.. sometimes being with other enthusiastic listeners helps the evening. I prefer my jazz clubs to be smaller cozy joints, probably beacause the one we had in Newcastle was like that. After I left Newcastle, the Guy who became Sting used to play the bass there.

Well Wingy's deliberate verbal shit hasn't been deleted yet Makes you wonder what really p'd them off. If they accept that kind of garbage.. then our poltical battles and baby oil covered bimbos couldn't have been the reason. My only conclusion is thstthe changes did come from what they thought were negative comments about her musio possibly huting their sales. I haven't seen much in the way of entralled Norah fans posting there.. I'd really like an answer that I can believe to the Question of what caused the change, and did they achieve their objective... doubt this enquiring mind will ever know.

I stand corrected Mike, you are right they are on DERAM,, so should be available.. I was in a Redial buying phase at about the time I got them .. thought they all came from the same place.

I also forgot to put a plug in for Chet Bakers Paris recordings, They were on 4cds from verve, and I think verve recently put out a one CD issue of recordings culled from them.