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Yep just checked my albums.. it's all bass clarinet on the LP

Herbie is credited with only taking his flutes and a bass clarinet to both these sessions. On Sultry he plays the bass clt. on Lazy Bones Great Ideas is out of my reach at present but I suspect he took it out of the case for one tune at least.

Sultry Serenade... first recorded Oct 10 1947 by Duke.. a feature for Tyree Glenn (with some Hodges thrown in). I'm not sure if someone wrote words to it, but How Could You certainly fits the opening phrase.

One way to make you look...

I'm a great believer that things happen. Had Hawk not " happened" someone else would have made music via the saxophone and it would still be a major Jazz instrument.. perhaps different in some respect, but still there . So to state that without Hawk the saxophone would have remained a novelty instrument( as most Jazz critics do ) may be a bit romantic but it is a bit silly. BUT Hawk was the first and had the musical ability not only to introduce the horn to the world of Jazz but to dominate its use for many years, playing alongside, and to good effect with a wide range of musicians from traditional environments to bebop and beyond. Therefore although I prefer to listen to others Pres, Thompson etc..( maybe Hawk is too much for me ), he is the only one that fits the poll parameters set out by mikeweil.

tracks 3, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 15, 16, 17 are fron Con Soul ( you are missing Sunnyside of the Street, otherwise the whole album is there..personnel as per Chuck. Jan 7 1965 1, 3, 8, 18 Cat Anderson,Lawrence Brown, Jimmy Hamilton, Jimmy Jones, Bill Berry ( vibes), Les Spann, Aaron Bell, Rufus Jones Jan 10 1967 For Jammers Only is called Wild Onions on the CD ( you are missing Figurine from this set) 2, 4, 14 Ray Nance, Buster Cooper,Paul Gonsalves,Hank Jones ( and Jimmy Jones) Tiny Grimes, Milt Hinton, Osie Johnson Jan 9th 1967 ( you are missing The Nearness of you from this date Take 'Em Off was in two parts each about 3 mins long) 5, 12 Roy Eldridge, Benny Powell, Harry Carney, Nat Pierce ( and Jimmy Jones) Billy Butler, Joe Benjamin, Oliver Jackson also recorded Jan 10th ( you are missing Fur Piece from this set)

Fhe Fresh Sounds site is currently featuring the Rogers RCA CDs as their sale of the month. Just under 7 Euro's each.

If you have a turntable ( seems like a strange statement) go to a used record store, spend a couple of dollars and make up your own mind For the Jazz try Gotham Jazz Scene for the Mood.. try Soft Lights or In a Mellow Mood Hackett's best two Capitol albums ( Coast Concert and Jazz Ultimate) are actually in the Jack Teagarden set, and not in his own Mosaic. They are also available on CD as a twofer via Collector's Choice Collectors Choice have twofers of other Hackett Capitols including one that puts together the two "mood" music albums mentioned above, which could be used as another sampling method

There are 10 tracks in total Baker sings on three Walkin.. which only features his trumpet in the opening chorus.. no solo What Possessed me Ann Wonderful One The singing is closer to the PJ sides, not great but not as bad as the later " attempts" at vocals

Well it was.. some time ago CD Esquire 100-4..Bebop in Britain It contains most of the music that Esquire recorded by the British BeBop bands roughly between 1948 and 1951.. Ronnie Scott / Vic Feldman / Kenny Graham ( not all of his ) Vic Lewis etc. Prior to the Box there were two @CD albums, that later were combined to make the box. One was Called Soho Bop, can't remember the other one. There is a copy of Soho Bop for auction on Ebay.. ( not mine) It was copyrighted on 1996.. The box was 1991, so I must be wrong about the 2CD sets being first.. I know I found mine long before I ever saw the box.. so if you are interrested and cannot find the box listed, Ebay might be a solution.

probably when Mosaic did the Benedetti's

This sounds like a great find. ( wonder what else is out there.. That damned cylinder??????) And I agree with Jim in that if Uptown release this packaged as it deserves, like the Eager and Mingus, it should be hot Grammy material.. worthwhile Grammies ( I haven't much faith in them ) and Chuck and Uptown deserve and would benefit from it. Hope it Happens From Jims earlier post Here we are in 2003, the 21st century, and although most jazz fans know who Charlie Parker was, they really don't appreciate him for the true genius he was. They feel warmer towards Dizzy because he lived a long time and became a charming elder statesman, but most don't realize just what a powerfully dangerous force he was. I don't think this true for members of the various boards, but for the "general' public it seems to have weight. I know trying to play Parker for people new to jazz is difficult. You try to tell them of the importance and play a record and they react as though they've heard it all before.. which of course is partly true. Hell there's not a TV commercial that doesn't have a Bird phrase / tone or sound in it.. bit exaggerated but you get the idea. I was the same, came to Jazz from the traditional regions, actually my Jazz listening experience follows a similar path to Jazz history. I was a listener when Bird died, remember the fuss about it in the Melody Maker Later I bought Bird records, they were good but didn't mean that much. Sort of sounded like lots of other Modern Jazz I'd heard. In the days before casettes and CDr's we had REEL TO REEL tape. I used to tape my albums to protect them and after awhile decided the only way I could find anything was to arrange the records by artist.. chronologically. Recording LPs to tape makes you really listen.. to avoid, avoidable clicks 'n pops if nothing else. Probably explains my chronological jones.. if there was a session I'd read about, thought interesting but didn't have it.. my recording would stop 'til I found it... probably explains my constant wandering around record stores jones. But the listening.. Doing my Bird tapes somewhere along the way it hit ....... Born Again Bird Watcher.. and it never left. Now an undiscovered early date from 45.. Damn I'd have to redo all those Reel to reels to get it in place. Those Reel to reel days are gone, tapes swallowed by the flood.. but I have gotten into making my own " Mosaic" of certain artists Bring it on Chuck.... Damn that chronological Jones

You might want to try Mike Carr's new CD Stevenson's Rocket, by the Mike Carr Blue Note Band Cargo mc502 mike plays organ / piano/electric piano and vibes on this. Mike plays with himself on some tracks, via overdubbing... puts some people off, but it works here. It's not a purely organ date, and tends as the name implies, towards the "Blue Note" type session. Twin brothers Steve Fishwick on trumpet, and Matt on drums are recieving good, and deserved, reviews in the jazz magazines, as is the CD as a whole. The band is filled out with Steve Kaldestad on tenor, with a guitar and extra percussion added on some tracks. All the tunes are Carr originals, except Lefty's Tune which was composed by Gary Cox ( of EMCEE 5 fame ) There are other Mike Carr quartet albums on Cargo.. which may have an organ base, I haven't heard them as yet. guess I'll put an order in since you reminded me added One of the things I like about Bulletin Boards are that the conversations get me to pull out records and listen to them based on what's being said. Re visiting this Mike Carr, it's very much a 'Hardbop Blue Note" type date and might not be quite along the lines of your request, but it's a very nice record. The trumpet player and tenor are right in place.. recommended to people who like the Jimmy Smith type recordings, though these tunes feature a bit more arranged in and out choruses than one expects from Smiths Jams Try it.. gotta keep pushing the British Bit. Appeases the guilt.

This was posted by John Delaney on AAJ I took the liberty of pasting it in answer to your question. Hope John doesn't mind.. saved a lot of typing. " Here's the discographical data: Bop-In' Britain Vol.1 - "The Learning Curve" - Jasmine JASCD 637 (a) "Bosworth Modern Jazz Group":- Freddy Gardner - Tenor; Johnny Douglas - Accordion; Howard Lucraft - Guitar; Steve Race - Piano; Mickey Rome - Bass; Roy Cooper - Drums. Recorded 14th March 1949. (B) "Steve Race Bop Group":- Johnny Dankworth - Alto; Leon Calvert - Trumpet; Pete Chilver - Guitar; Steve Race - Piano; Jack Fallon - Bass; Norman Burns - Drums. Recorded 31st August 1949. © Alan Dean's Beboppers :-Johnny Dankworth - Alto; Ronnie Scott - Tenor; Reg Arnold - Trumpet; Bernie Fenton - Piano; Pete Chilver - Guitar; Joe Muddel - Bass; Laurie Morgan - Drums; Alan Dean - Vocal. Recorded 29th April 1949. (d) Johnny Dankworth Seven:- Johnny Dankworth - Alto; Don Rendell - Tenor; Jimmy Deuchar - Trumpet; Eddie Harvey - Trombone; Bill Le Sage - Piano; Joe Muddel - Bass; Tony Kinsey - Drums. Recorded 18th May 1950. (e) Ralph Sharon Sextet:- Jimmy Skidmore - Tenor; Vic Feldman - Vibes; Pete Chilver - Guitar; Ralph Sharon - Piano; Fallon - Bass; Martin Aston - Drums./ Recorded 27th March 1950. (f) Tommy Whittle Quartet:- Tommy Whittle - Tenor; Ronnie Ball - Piano; Frank Donnison - Bass; Tony Kinsey - Drums. Recorded 13th September 1951. (g) Tommy Whittle Septet:- Tommy Whittle - Tenor; Roy Willox - Alto; George Hunter - Baritone; Bobby Pratt - Trumpet; Frank Horrox - Piano; Johnny Hawksworth - Bass; Ronnie Verrell - Drums. Recorded 23rd October 1951. 72 mins. Rebop Rebels (a)/ Quintessence (a)/ Boppin' The Boogie (a)/ Baltimore Bop (a)/ Vertigo (B)/ Marzipan (B)/ Bugle Call Bop (B)/ Microcosmo (B)/ Gone With The Windmill (take 1) ©/ Gone With The Windmill (take 2) ©/ Barbados ©/ Elevenses ©/ Lightly Politely (d)/ Strike Up The Band (d)/ Marmaduke (d)/ Little Benny (d)/ Burman's Bauble (e)/ Boptical Illusion (e)/ All The Things You Are (f)/ Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps (f)/ Wit's End (g)/ Portland Place (g)/ Sam's Say (g)/ Night And Day(g) Bop-in' Britain Vol.2 - "Gettin' The Message" - Jasmine JASDCD 638 (a) Vic Feldman All-Stars:- Jimmy Deuchar - Trumpet; Ken Wray - Trombone; Derek Humble - Alto; Harry Klein - Baritone; Vic Feldman - Vibes; Stan Tracey - Piano; Lennie Bush - Bass; Martin Aston - Drums. Recorded 3rd March 1952. (B) Arnold Ross Quintet / Trio:- Jimmy Deuchar - trumpet; Tommy Whittle - Tenor; Arnold Ross - Piano; Joe Benjamin - Bass; Jack Parnell or Tony Kinsey - Drums. Recorded 13th June 1952. © Arnold Ross Sextet:- Jimmy Deuchar - Trumpet; Humble - Alto; Ronnie Scott - Tenor; Arnold Ross - Piano; Sammy Stokes - Bass; Jack Parnell - Drums. Recorded 3rd August 1952. (d) Vic Ash All Stars:- Vic Ash - Clarinet; Gerry McLoughlin - Vibes; Derek Smith - Piano; Johnny Hawkesworth - Bass; Allan Ganley - Drums. Recorded 16th February 1954. (e) Joe Harriott Quartet:- Joe Harriott - Alto; Dill Jones - Piano; Jack Fallon - Bass; Phil Seaman - Drums. Recorded February 1954. (f) Tony Hall Hall-Stars:- Joe Hunter - Trumpet; Joe Temperley - Tenor; Kenny Napper - Piano; Sammy Stokes - Bass; Phil Seaman - Drums. Recorded January 1954. 70 mins. Lullaby In Rhythm (a)/ Serenity (a)/ Just Friends (a)/ Euphony (a)/ Janie (B)/ Darn That Dream, (B)/ Speechless (B)/ Twelve To Four (B)/ The Champ ©/ All The Things You Are ©/ Once In A While ©/ These Foolish Things ©/ Nice Work If You Can Get It ©/ Softly As In A Morning Sunrise (d)/ Ain't Misbehavin' (d)/ Blue Room (d)/ Lullaby Of The Leaves (d)/ Summertime (e)/ April In Paris (e)/ Cherokee (e)/ Out Of Nowhere (e)/ Hi-Ya Mr Jackson (f)/ Spaceship (f). No clashes with the Esquire 4CDset. Indeed no Esquire material is on either of these two CDs. John Delaney " This is all rare material from small British Labels and none of this appears to have been on CD or even LP reissues. the music is not as dated as I had expected but might sound a bit tame to seasoned American Bop ears. The titles of the CD's are appropriate Vol 1 The Learning Curve Vol 2 Getting the Message All in all a valuable reissue set for followers of early British Modern Jazz, and collectors of the musicians involved.

The original lyrics were written by Oscar Brown Jr.. I haven't heard the Sheila Jordan, but I suspect they are the same. Hip words about a how a child sees things Oscar Browns version is on Sin and Soul Oscar for some strange reason is considered to be a bit too theatrical for JAZZ fans.. but his records are full of witty and intense songs for wit try Hazel's Hips One Foot in the Gutter The Snake.. was it O.C.Smith had a top twenty hit with that Forbidden Fruit Somebody buy me a drink and the great But I Was Cool. it's a long list He also wrote the words to Work Song and a whole bunch of others that often people think were Hendricks work. If interested in Oscar Brown Jr seek out Sin And Soul on Columbia Tells It Like It Is / In A New Mood on collectables ( New Mood is not as full of his original lyrics but the coupled album is.) There was one more.. Between Heaven and Hell which so far is only out on vinyl... in the used bins,

well, I guess I didn't see the " chicken Shit" posts.. which appear to be gone, so the thread now reads like a storm in a teacup. Makes Larry Young fans seem so sensitive ( need a few of these just in case.....)

And again.. these recording give a slightly different aspect of Ellington, possibly because as Swede points out, the band was in transition between " big company" recording contracts. Well worth the purchase.

Wot no Red White "n Blue?????????????????

Wot Cheor Mike.. whorever ye gan yer sure to............

More people should have this attitude.. buying for investment might be " smart" but where Mosaics exist it sucks.. let the people who like the music buy them Had Mosaic found a bunch of sets, I hope they wouldn't sell them all to one person As to the thought behind this thread, seems to me it was just a bit of humour which seems to have been taken out of context by those who are outraged at it.

Glad to know "Tapes" was done too.. maybe it will be issued on DVD . Just steal some wood, Mike, and down a bottle of Broon, s(w)ing the Blaydon Races, and we'll make you an honorary Geordie.

The Jazz content is limited other than the 'hero' is a Jazz Loving woodwork teacher.. But he is also a Geordie. true to form there are many wisecracks back and forth between him and other characters. Sometimes it gets to be a bit much, as the others also constantly speak in jokes, and the Northern British humour may be a little difficult for some ears not accustomed to it...but overal it's a fun series.They were made as a TV episodes. which explains the length. Affair is in 6 parts, Connection in 4 There were three books actually, these two DVD sets are based on book one ( Affair) and three ( Connection) Book two was called The Beiderbecke Tapes and involved some mysterious casettes which were supposed to be of Bix, but turned out to be somethin far different. It also featured a trip to Europe... which may have been beyond the production budget to make a show of it. If it was I hope it too, is issued via DVD. He does actually visit a Jazz Club in Connection. Bixophiles be warned, while the series invokes the great God's name, his music is not to be heard. The "soundtrack" is from Frank Riccotti, not Bix discs. Riccotti appears as a vibes playing leader in the Jazz club sequence. Start with Affair or you might have difficulty with the characters... a "baby sitter " in Connection made her first appearance in the second book and references to her activities could be a bit confusing top some. So if that doesn't put you off, and you like British TV humour ( Not the Benny Hill or Monty Python variety).. you'll probably enjoy them.

That Shaw photo... looks like he's got big ribbon bows in his hair... Katerina Ballerina?

I agrre David, I doubt the G. Peterson connection willdo much. If the record ( soorry CD sells well I doubt it's because of Peterson, but more from people like yo and me, who are eager to get this music out on CD. I normally don't buy comps.. but bought the Peterson, because the Music is rare ( I'm not prepared to pay the used vinyl prices these discs bring) and I hoped sales would prompt re issue of the complete discs ( with unissued material if possible ) Wonder what "miniscule" means... I might be tempted

Think I'll fly the Union Jack for those who need these to understand ( some) of my posts.