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If you have a turntable ( seems like a strange statement) go to a used record store, spend a couple of dollars and make up your own mind For the Jazz try Gotham Jazz Scene for the Mood.. try Soft Lights or In a Mellow Mood Hackett's best two Capitol albums ( Coast Concert and Jazz Ultimate) are actually in the Jack Teagarden set, and not in his own Mosaic. They are also available on CD as a twofer via Collector's Choice Collectors Choice have twofers of other Hackett Capitols including one that puts together the two "mood" music albums mentioned above, which could be used as another sampling method

There are 10 tracks in total Baker sings on three Walkin.. which only features his trumpet in the opening chorus.. no solo What Possessed me Ann Wonderful One The singing is closer to the PJ sides, not great but not as bad as the later " attempts" at vocals

Well it was.. some time ago CD Esquire 100-4..Bebop in Britain It contains most of the music that Esquire recorded by the British BeBop bands roughly between 1948 and 1951.. Ronnie Scott / Vic Feldman / Kenny Graham ( not all of his ) Vic Lewis etc. Prior to the Box there were two @CD albums, that later were combined to make the box. One was Called Soho Bop, can't remember the other one. There is a copy of Soho Bop for auction on Ebay.. ( not mine) It was copyrighted on 1996.. The box was 1991, so I must be wrong about the 2CD sets being first.. I know I found mine long before I ever saw the box.. so if you are interrested and cannot find the box listed, Ebay might be a solution.

probably when Mosaic did the Benedetti's

This sounds like a great find. ( wonder what else is out there.. That damned cylinder??????) And I agree with Jim in that if Uptown release this packaged as it deserves, like the Eager and Mingus, it should be hot Grammy material.. worthwhile Grammies ( I haven't much faith in them ) and Chuck and Uptown deserve and would benefit from it. Hope it Happens From Jims earlier post Here we are in 2003, the 21st century, and although most jazz fans know who Charlie Parker was, they really don't appreciate him for the true genius he was. They feel warmer towards Dizzy because he lived a long time and became a charming elder statesman, but most don't realize just what a powerfully dangerous force he was. I don't think this true for members of the various boards, but for the "general' public it seems to have weight. I know trying to play Parker for people new to jazz is difficult. You try to tell them of the importance and play a record and they react as though they've heard it all before.. which of course is partly true. Hell there's not a TV commercial that doesn't have a Bird phrase / tone or sound in it.. bit exaggerated but you get the idea. I was the same, came to Jazz from the traditional regions, actually my Jazz listening experience follows a similar path to Jazz history. I was a listener when Bird died, remember the fuss about it in the Melody Maker Later I bought Bird records, they were good but didn't mean that much. Sort of sounded like lots of other Modern Jazz I'd heard. In the days before casettes and CDr's we had REEL TO REEL tape. I used to tape my albums to protect them and after awhile decided the only way I could find anything was to arrange the records by artist.. chronologically. Recording LPs to tape makes you really listen.. to avoid, avoidable clicks 'n pops if nothing else. Probably explains my chronological jones.. if there was a session I'd read about, thought interesting but didn't have it.. my recording would stop 'til I found it... probably explains my constant wandering around record stores jones. But the listening.. Doing my Bird tapes somewhere along the way it hit ....... Born Again Bird Watcher.. and it never left. Now an undiscovered early date from 45.. Damn I'd have to redo all those Reel to reels to get it in place. Those Reel to reel days are gone, tapes swallowed by the flood.. but I have gotten into making my own " Mosaic" of certain artists Bring it on Chuck.... Damn that chronological Jones

You might want to try Mike Carr's new CD Stevenson's Rocket, by the Mike Carr Blue Note Band Cargo mc502 mike plays organ / piano/electric piano and vibes on this. Mike plays with himself on some tracks, via overdubbing... puts some people off, but it works here. It's not a purely organ date, and tends as the name implies, towards the "Blue Note" type session. Twin brothers Steve Fishwick on trumpet, and Matt on drums are recieving good, and deserved, reviews in the jazz magazines, as is the CD as a whole. The band is filled out with Steve Kaldestad on tenor, with a guitar and extra percussion added on some tracks. All the tunes are Carr originals, except Lefty's Tune which was composed by Gary Cox ( of EMCEE 5 fame ) There are other Mike Carr quartet albums on Cargo.. which may have an organ base, I haven't heard them as yet. guess I'll put an order in since you reminded me added One of the things I like about Bulletin Boards are that the conversations get me to pull out records and listen to them based on what's being said. Re visiting this Mike Carr, it's very much a 'Hardbop Blue Note" type date and might not be quite along the lines of your request, but it's a very nice record. The trumpet player and tenor are right in place.. recommended to people who like the Jimmy Smith type recordings, though these tunes feature a bit more arranged in and out choruses than one expects from Smiths Jams Try it.. gotta keep pushing the British Bit. Appeases the guilt.

This was posted by John Delaney on AAJ I took the liberty of pasting it in answer to your question. Hope John doesn't mind.. saved a lot of typing. " Here's the discographical data: Bop-In' Britain Vol.1 - "The Learning Curve" - Jasmine JASCD 637 (a) "Bosworth Modern Jazz Group":- Freddy Gardner - Tenor; Johnny Douglas - Accordion; Howard Lucraft - Guitar; Steve Race - Piano; Mickey Rome - Bass; Roy Cooper - Drums. Recorded 14th March 1949. (B) "Steve Race Bop Group":- Johnny Dankworth - Alto; Leon Calvert - Trumpet; Pete Chilver - Guitar; Steve Race - Piano; Jack Fallon - Bass; Norman Burns - Drums. Recorded 31st August 1949. © Alan Dean's Beboppers :-Johnny Dankworth - Alto; Ronnie Scott - Tenor; Reg Arnold - Trumpet; Bernie Fenton - Piano; Pete Chilver - Guitar; Joe Muddel - Bass; Laurie Morgan - Drums; Alan Dean - Vocal. Recorded 29th April 1949. (d) Johnny Dankworth Seven:- Johnny Dankworth - Alto; Don Rendell - Tenor; Jimmy Deuchar - Trumpet; Eddie Harvey - Trombone; Bill Le Sage - Piano; Joe Muddel - Bass; Tony Kinsey - Drums. Recorded 18th May 1950. (e) Ralph Sharon Sextet:- Jimmy Skidmore - Tenor; Vic Feldman - Vibes; Pete Chilver - Guitar; Ralph Sharon - Piano; Fallon - Bass; Martin Aston - Drums./ Recorded 27th March 1950. (f) Tommy Whittle Quartet:- Tommy Whittle - Tenor; Ronnie Ball - Piano; Frank Donnison - Bass; Tony Kinsey - Drums. Recorded 13th September 1951. (g) Tommy Whittle Septet:- Tommy Whittle - Tenor; Roy Willox - Alto; George Hunter - Baritone; Bobby Pratt - Trumpet; Frank Horrox - Piano; Johnny Hawksworth - Bass; Ronnie Verrell - Drums. Recorded 23rd October 1951. 72 mins. Rebop Rebels (a)/ Quintessence (a)/ Boppin' The Boogie (a)/ Baltimore Bop (a)/ Vertigo (B)/ Marzipan (B)/ Bugle Call Bop (B)/ Microcosmo (B)/ Gone With The Windmill (take 1) ©/ Gone With The Windmill (take 2) ©/ Barbados ©/ Elevenses ©/ Lightly Politely (d)/ Strike Up The Band (d)/ Marmaduke (d)/ Little Benny (d)/ Burman's Bauble (e)/ Boptical Illusion (e)/ All The Things You Are (f)/ Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps (f)/ Wit's End (g)/ Portland Place (g)/ Sam's Say (g)/ Night And Day(g) Bop-in' Britain Vol.2 - "Gettin' The Message" - Jasmine JASDCD 638 (a) Vic Feldman All-Stars:- Jimmy Deuchar - Trumpet; Ken Wray - Trombone; Derek Humble - Alto; Harry Klein - Baritone; Vic Feldman - Vibes; Stan Tracey - Piano; Lennie Bush - Bass; Martin Aston - Drums. Recorded 3rd March 1952. (B) Arnold Ross Quintet / Trio:- Jimmy Deuchar - trumpet; Tommy Whittle - Tenor; Arnold Ross - Piano; Joe Benjamin - Bass; Jack Parnell or Tony Kinsey - Drums. Recorded 13th June 1952. © Arnold Ross Sextet:- Jimmy Deuchar - Trumpet; Humble - Alto; Ronnie Scott - Tenor; Arnold Ross - Piano; Sammy Stokes - Bass; Jack Parnell - Drums. Recorded 3rd August 1952. (d) Vic Ash All Stars:- Vic Ash - Clarinet; Gerry McLoughlin - Vibes; Derek Smith - Piano; Johnny Hawkesworth - Bass; Allan Ganley - Drums. Recorded 16th February 1954. (e) Joe Harriott Quartet:- Joe Harriott - Alto; Dill Jones - Piano; Jack Fallon - Bass; Phil Seaman - Drums. Recorded February 1954. (f) Tony Hall Hall-Stars:- Joe Hunter - Trumpet; Joe Temperley - Tenor; Kenny Napper - Piano; Sammy Stokes - Bass; Phil Seaman - Drums. Recorded January 1954. 70 mins. Lullaby In Rhythm (a)/ Serenity (a)/ Just Friends (a)/ Euphony (a)/ Janie (B)/ Darn That Dream, (B)/ Speechless (B)/ Twelve To Four (B)/ The Champ ©/ All The Things You Are ©/ Once In A While ©/ These Foolish Things ©/ Nice Work If You Can Get It ©/ Softly As In A Morning Sunrise (d)/ Ain't Misbehavin' (d)/ Blue Room (d)/ Lullaby Of The Leaves (d)/ Summertime (e)/ April In Paris (e)/ Cherokee (e)/ Out Of Nowhere (e)/ Hi-Ya Mr Jackson (f)/ Spaceship (f). No clashes with the Esquire 4CDset. Indeed no Esquire material is on either of these two CDs. John Delaney " This is all rare material from small British Labels and none of this appears to have been on CD or even LP reissues. the music is not as dated as I had expected but might sound a bit tame to seasoned American Bop ears. The titles of the CD's are appropriate Vol 1 The Learning Curve Vol 2 Getting the Message All in all a valuable reissue set for followers of early British Modern Jazz, and collectors of the musicians involved.

The original lyrics were written by Oscar Brown Jr.. I haven't heard the Sheila Jordan, but I suspect they are the same. Hip words about a how a child sees things Oscar Browns version is on Sin and Soul Oscar for some strange reason is considered to be a bit too theatrical for JAZZ fans.. but his records are full of witty and intense songs for wit try Hazel's Hips One Foot in the Gutter The Snake.. was it O.C.Smith had a top twenty hit with that Forbidden Fruit Somebody buy me a drink and the great But I Was Cool. it's a long list He also wrote the words to Work Song and a whole bunch of others that often people think were Hendricks work. If interested in Oscar Brown Jr seek out Sin And Soul on Columbia Tells It Like It Is / In A New Mood on collectables ( New Mood is not as full of his original lyrics but the coupled album is.) There was one more.. Between Heaven and Hell which so far is only out on vinyl... in the used bins,

well, I guess I didn't see the " chicken Shit" posts.. which appear to be gone, so the thread now reads like a storm in a teacup. Makes Larry Young fans seem so sensitive ( need a few of these just in case.....)

And again.. these recording give a slightly different aspect of Ellington, possibly because as Swede points out, the band was in transition between " big company" recording contracts. Well worth the purchase.

Wot no Red White "n Blue?????????????????

More people should have this attitude.. buying for investment might be " smart" but where Mosaics exist it sucks.. let the people who like the music buy them Had Mosaic found a bunch of sets, I hope they wouldn't sell them all to one person As to the thought behind this thread, seems to me it was just a bit of humour which seems to have been taken out of context by those who are outraged at it.

That Shaw photo... looks like he's got big ribbon bows in his hair... Katerina Ballerina?

I agrre David, I doubt the G. Peterson connection willdo much. If the record ( soorry CD sells well I doubt it's because of Peterson, but more from people like yo and me, who are eager to get this music out on CD. I normally don't buy comps.. but bought the Peterson, because the Music is rare ( I'm not prepared to pay the used vinyl prices these discs bring) and I hoped sales would prompt re issue of the complete discs ( with unissued material if possible ) Wonder what "miniscule" means... I might be tempted

Think I'll fly the Union Jack for those who need these to understand ( some) of my posts.

O.k I obviously don't like Verve.. as a CD producer..it was all we talked about on the Old Verve board.. but their reissue program was much better a few uears back when they put out those 2cd sets, example the Dizz Big Band, The Ben Webster,Sweets , Carter etc usually three lps plus extras, even the Swung Trumpets was a plus.. to get the Sweets plus Clayton date. Then we had the really bad Finest Hour years. I agree, at least now they are bringing out some rarer items.. this Hodges / Mulligan hasn't been reissued much.. only once on LP domestically.. and not too much elswhere. and as I've been able to pick up copies of the ones I wanted for$6 -$9.00, my verve boycot has ended.. sort of. and Dr J, I suppose ollectors like to Collect and Cdr's of music unavailable elswhere, are better than nothing As to Grainy labels... well I guess I should swap something with you

It's not a matter of thunking Stephan, Verve have lots of great albums... all locked away. Though it does seem as though the drought of the last couple of years is coming to an end Now if they would only issue them well compiled, packaged and at decent price levels.. we'd be more than happy.

The spindle is more solid, not teeth.. it resembles a spring type washer in appearance.. It is not the press and release type found in many DVD cases. Give me Old Fashioned, repairable jewel cases anytime.. they store better, stand up to wear better, and can be replaced better than any of the artsy fartsy digi pak / mini LP rubbish Question..... Why was Verves Mini Lp of the Brubeck Desmond duets.. bigger than their other mini LPs????

Brownie did it for you I too, wish Masters had continued.. especially the Wardell set There's a couple of Lee & Lester recordings from the same or similar source, but without Holiday, on the Pres discs too.

How complete? The majority of Billie with Pres is included in the Sony / Columbia box alternates "n all. Probably the best tracks are here, but if you really want it all there are some broadcasts with Basie, Studio recordings on Decca.. just a couple of tracks I think. Some JATP on Verve and a couple of radio shots with the Lee Young band. Plus the Sound of Jazz recordings. I don't think any bootleg or legit issues combines these in total. So the Sony /Columbia box is the best way to get most of it, possibily these are the tracks you are seeking. There's a lot of great music in the set that Pres does not play on, well worth the investment.

Mine arrived today.. thought I'd thank you publicly.. The Eager is another first class production When you've been listening to, and collecting Jazz for awhile, this kind of issue is very important.. hope you have similar projects about to germinate. If you missedout on Chuck's deal... buy it anyway, an amazinly produced bit of rare Jazz history.. and great music besides. More Please.

Jazz at Cal Tech.. Bud Shank on PJ... dumping already? the Select isn't due for a long time yet Zen the Music of Fred Katz with the Chico Hamilton Quintet PJ.. does he know something I don't? and for Fun Mat Mathews with 4 French Horns... Elektra $5.00 each All more or less in good condition.. the "less" is for one split sleeve.

A German translation. or just an English translation of the English, like in the Hodges?

I am interested in this from the Dave Burns aspect.. Would it fit alonside his Vanguards????

What would be REALLY pathetic would be an American Ploughman's Lunch....... Bad Bread, Bad Beer, Bad Cheese... not to mention the lack of Branston Pickles.... Damn I'm getting homesick trust Jim to start something.