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Perhaps not in the middle of the Paris recordings, but definitely during the European bookings of 55 The Jazz discographies show his last recording to be with Lars Gullin ( and Chet ) in Germany Oct 15th. Twardzik died on the 21st Baker's tour lasted longer and he used local piano players after that. After Twardzik's death ( according to the Paris Cd notes ) Baker appeared in London on the 23rd, but union rules only allowed him to perform as a singer, he had Raymond Fol on piano.. the notes say he sang only four songs, before he was "overcome with emotion." Baker's quartet recordings with Twardzik certainly rank high in his discography

Don't know if this is the correct forum, but in light of the ongoing Wynton trials and tribulation, and the current revival of " interest " in the Burns documentary... This from an interview of Donald Harrison by Derek Ansell in the current Jazz Journal.... DH... Terence Blanchard and I started a band together. We were co - leaders together and at the time I wrote a song called New York Second Line that became very, very popular. I didn't realise that it would be so influential. It was funny because, at the time, Wynton and I used to fuss about New Orleans music because he didn't like Loius Armstrong. DA.... Really? DH... Oh, yes. And I told him he was so wrong and he just didn't know. And you know, Wynton is very, very opinionated and he would say New Orleans music is ignorant, and Louis Armstrong was ignorant, and I said Wynton you just don't know. So I wrote this song, New York Second Line and the second line is what they call traditional music of New Orleans, where I married the rhythms on New York with the rhythms of New Orleans and put some abstract harmony on top of it. And he must have changed when he heard it because he told me I might be right about something and he started playing New Orleans music and a lot of musicians started playing it and they said they liked what I'd done later in the article... discussing Wyntons change to champion and defender of Older music... DH... He has changed, He really has. I came to the conclusion when I was really young that you experience all kinds of influential music, but he couldn't understand that........ .......... It's the same with music.. If I go through certain experiences I can put that in the music. But you can listen to someone else has done and gain from that also. Although it's not the same person who had the experience. Art Blakey used to say, once you present an idea it belongs to the world, just give credit to the creator. I think Wynton is beginning to understand now that experience has a lot to do with how you play music. There is no date given for the Interview, but it was presumably fairly recently when Harrison played London . It would be interesting to correlate the recording of New York Second Line ( october 1983 ) with Wynton's turn to the older music ( I had always thought that being from New Orleans that Wynton was aware of, and in favour of it, from his beginnings). Perhaps Hardbop can refute Harrisons statement Was Harrison the Frankenstein to the Wynton monster

Regardless of all the debate, this is still the best documentation presentation of jazz on tv... 19 hours. I would bet my entire record collection that if any of the programmes hardest critics on this board, or any other, were given the oppertunity to produce such a series, the resultant outcry would be pretty much the same. Why wasn't Jabbo Smith given his full due Dammit

From the point of view of a Father's Day present, who cares if the book is good or bad ( unless it is absolutely terrible ) There have not been many books on Morton, and if your father is a big Morton follower then any books , no doubt, would be welcome. The Lomax book was written so long ago, in a time when "journalism" was a bit more sedate .No doubt the newer books reveal much more about the subject There was recently another Morton book DEAD MAN"S BLUES... JRM way out west by Phil Patras, published 2001 It centers on Morton's experiences on the West Coast 1917 - 1922 and 1940 - 41 which perhaps makes it a bit of a book for the specialist.. mightbe just the thing for your father. It received very positive reviews.

In response to Alexander Everyone has a different opinion.. I agree with the Armstrong evaluation.. The part in the Burns Show where they repeat the often mentioned fact that Hello Dolly Knocked the Beatles ( whatever it was ) off the charts always annoys me. It generally seems to be cited as a measure of how great a musician Armstrong was, which I think belittles his contribution to Jazz and music in general. The Beatles hit had been on the charts for 4 weeks, by then I would imagine about 90% of all who wanted to buy it, had already done so. such was Beatle Mania at the time. Dolly purchasers were possibly Moms 'n Dads relieved that there was something they could buy.. also it was a SHOW tune etc. I don'y know any JAZZ followers who ran out and bought the record. Ellington??? I think you are missing quite a bit. Ellington should almost be looked at in decades 20's/ 30's / 40's / 50's etc. each had innovative periods distinctive to the development of the music and the musicians. Only relatively later did his influence seem to dwindle, possibly 70's on. Your Brubeck statement, in light of your dismissal of Ellington seems a little facetious. Brubeck was definitely more than Take 5, but his influence on the Jazz scene in both music and musicians, and the History of Jazz.. which is what the Burns series claims to be, is far less than Armstrong or Ellington.. or a whole host of others. If Burns spent a lot of time on Brubeck,( I'd have to watch it again to know for sure) then that too, is an extreme waste of time. I guess it depends on how you define a Giant of Jazz.. which of course is what leads to the debates about the show...we get the Burns / Marsalis / Crouch etc. definitions which obviously don't always agree with our own.

according to Lord you have it all There is no indication that As long as I live is two different takes, but the title appears on both the black Lion and the Storyville. I obviously have theTom lord.. all the Books and the Cd rom. This kind of info. can be pulled up in seconds. I use the Lord a Lot sorting out my collection and preparing my own CDr's.( I still use the books a lot too ). Don't mind using it to answer questions like this, but if you need this type of info regularily, then the Lord CD is worth it, perhaps not by selling off sets or albums, but maybe saving up for it. There are errors in it, as in all works of this kind, but it is still a very useful tool to have.

Seattle area members may want to try this Granfalloon 2 for youse all

So we thought we'd try again Granfalloon 1 was a great sucess.. at least in our minds... via the BNBB We changed the date roften to try to fit in those who said they would attend.. changed it so much that ultimately we could please no one So no changes except would you prefer Saturday July 12th or Sunday July 13th date determined by response Woodinville Wa My house Starts 2.30 in the afternoon I will supply Food, cheap wine and beer.. and music though bring a CD if you want to create lively discussion. so come meet Seattle area Bulletin Board members.. anybody visiting the area.. you're welcome too. Need an RSVP via PM system so I work out how many cases of beer to buy, how many hot dogs... Beer not a joke, hot dogs are.. definitely the food will be better than Hot Dogs " n Chips "n dip. So if interested.. PM me.. tell me which is best.. Sat or Sunday

The tune was originally called INTERLUDE Boyd Raeburn recorded it a couple of times.. maybe a Gillespie arangement..around 43 - 44. Sarah vaughan recorded it, with Diz in the band Jan 17 1945.. available on all kinds of cheap Sarah comps. The first Diz led band that recorded it seems to be an Onyx Club recording from Jan 1944.. Diz with Budd Johnson / George Wallington / Oscar Pettiford / Max Roach... a broadcast recording Raeburn recorded it April 44 withDiz as the arranger Jan 45 with Diz on trumpet.. twice, once as Night.. once as Interlude Diz's first Studio recording,as leader and issued under his own name wasthe Feb 22 1946 session for RCA.. the septet recordings.. of which two takes exist Thank you Masters of Jazz...Media 7.. why the hell did you quit?????

Carmen Leggio tnr John Bunch pno Henry Grimes bass Living Time You are my sunshine Avalon Cute Jive at Five Take Me out to the Ball Game Gypsey in my soul Swing Time New York 1962 Via Tom Lord I really hate the tune Cute

Now thats an ALBUM... wqhere the hell is the CD reissue?? Part was on the Bluebird.. I} know... But part is not enough.

Gonsalves on the Uptown / Betty Roche take on the "A " Train and for laughs, his Body and Soul on the Ellington Cosmic Scene wher he beats Dexter at the quotation game.. If you want to hear him do Body and Soul.. the afore mentioned Wonderful World of Jazz by John Lewis is the place to go.

Both the Selects are a plus for me. Always been a follower of Bennie Green since the Jo Jones Special album on Vanguard. To me Green, is more of a mainstream musician than some one overtly modern. I had most of this on LP, and am glad to get CD versions. Weston I came to by finding the Riverside twofer( ZULU) in a junk bin.. when Promo copies appeared in the "used" stores as soon as an album was released. Made me a bit of a Weston junkie..even bought the SPLENDID MASTER GWANA MASTER MUSICIANS OF MOROCCO because it was a Weston album... not jazz though.. The select will be quite varied.. Trio's to Big Band, club performances to "suites". I like Westons music and piano playing.. both have a somewhat different element to them, regardless of the comparissons people make to other musicians ( Monk etc.). I don't know a lot about truly African music, but from what I've read of Westons travels and investigations into it, I'm sure that these contribute to the singularity of his approach. ( Melba Liston's arrangements for the larger groups stay right with, or maybe are part of, the Weston image) I only had Niles ( a sextet date) and the 5 Spot on vinyl, and my vinyl playing dropped off a lot since CDs came along.. more now as I am transferring them to CDr.. Was just getting into the Westons when the select was announced , so I put it off until I could see what it would include. I recall that I preferred the Niles album to the 5 spot.. for some reason Hawk didn't seem to fit the rest of the band( I await the flames).. Destry rides Again was there too... but apparently Weston dislikes that album and didn't want Mosaic to reissue it The Suite/Big band. UHURU AFRICA.. is interesting.. it has some "dated" Freedom chants, and vocals that I find a bit pretentious, but once they're out of the way the music is great....just look at the band... The 5th movement KUCHEZA BLUES is one of Weston's Classics. Here it closes the album, and though the music is different, with "african" rhytmic support, it reminds me of the effect that La Nevada had on the Gil Evans Out of the Cool album. HIGHLIFE is something of a precursor to Weston's AFRICAN COOKBOOK , but with a larger group. Booker Ervin is on both, and to my mind he fits Weston's music better than Hawk. ( Yeah Booker got trashed elswhere.. but I still like him better than Hawk in Weston's environment) Then there's an unissued session with Cecil Payne. Payne recorded, and presumably played, quite a bit , with Weston around this time.. and was well versed in his music. As noted, the variety in the Weston set is such that it will give you ( Rooster) a lot to explore, and I would guess, a lot of enjoyment. But don't fluff of Bennie Green too easily. The first four selects, and the others projected.. ( the Mulligan Songbooks etc) looks like Mosaic will maintain it's "record company of the year" status in magazines that run those polls.

Around here the Proper boxes are quite visible, one of the local stores Silver Platters( with three stores) always seems to have them on display, as soon as they are annouced. Heven't seen any "pairs" but haven't really looked

Gene shaw made three albums as a leader.. for Argo. I have two.. Debut in Blues Carnival sketches Looking for BreaKthrough All the usual "exchange" rules apply

Oh Bery Gin this so BORING.... but my order is in.. getting this collected like this is a plus... what Mosaic should be about.. with older collections. Do you think there's enough here to Keep Berry quiet fir awhile... Don't neglect the truck though.

We had this discussion on the old homestead porch. The complete session has been issued but it takes two cds The tracks are Iron Man Mandrake Come Sunday Burning Spear Ode to Charlie Parker Jitterbug Waltz Music Matador Love Me Alone together I settled for a 2CD set on jazz world called The Eric Dolphy Sound, the tracks are separated as above This issue is "filled " out by two tracks claimed to be unissued, which is false 1 Wherever I Go is a Chico Hamilton quintet 2 Stormy Wearher is Dolphy with Mi8ngus. These sessions seem to have been released a number of times on a variety of labels

If you like armstrong this is an excellent selection.. It includes all of the Armstrong Autobiography recordings, but without the narration by LA( with Billy Kyle in the background). Also the autobiographical selections are in chronological recording squence, and do not follow the "historical" sequence of Armstrong's life. It was a little weird to me because I was so familiar with the LP sequence.. something that usually doesn't bother me, but as this set was designed as a narrative presentation, the order of these tracks on the Mosaic is a bit unsettling. The Auto... used two live tracks, that do not show up in the Mosaic. So if you have the Autobiography ( most recently reissued on CD via verve) there is quite a bit duplication. If not , you get a terrific selection of LA playing tunes from his early days, that he rarely played later in his career, plus the New Orleans Function set and the music recorded for the Glenn Miller story ( three takes of Basin St. with different line ups though). I guess Lon and I were simo-posting

Why do these go so cheap? Because they're cut outs.. I don't think the company exists anymore There were a lot available at www.broinc.com 2.99 each.. at that price you can take a chance Some of them had no better sound than an old LP, from which they may have been taken ( Joe Newmans.. I Fell Like A Newman especially ) but others are fine.

How about a count of the number of times each one has been mentioned.. hell we need a score keeper.. some of us want the shot... some of us should be shot... Oh BTW please sort it alphabetically Bobby Brookmeyer

Simple Question... Have you read the Thread... Sorry someone did that to me on a BB.. never went back.. don't want to chase you away... but Hell read what is above your post.. both pages

Bastards... I'll never buy a Japanese mini LP overpriced CD again... Never...... never....

Bastards... I'll never buy a Japanese mini LP overpriced CD again... Never...... never....

DEEP, He Say BUY actually he'd probably say.. Cat Teaser, satisfy your Jones with Charlie Pherst.

I, too, just got my shipping notificatoin from CDU so no need to worry.