Daniel A

According to Ratliff's Coltrane book Verve (in other words Universal?) digitized Tiberi's whole Coltrane tape collection, so at least they put in some effort. Too bad nothing could be released.

The 'Overseas' album (originally a series of EP:s) was recorded by Metronome sound engineer Gösta Wiholm in the label's studio at Karlavägen in Stockholm. The mixing table and the engraving machines were custom built by Wiholm. Tape recorders were from Ampex and Telefunken and the amps from Quad. Also the grand piano was custom built by Swedish guitar maker Georg Bolin who also made a handful of pianos, unconventionally designed with guitar-like sound boxes and requiring very frequent tuning. Famed jazz club the Golden Circle had another Bolin piano that some pianists (allegedly Bengt Hallberg, among others) simply refused to play on. The Golden Circle piano was therefore seldom used and eventually ended up in the next Metronome studio, built in a disused cinema in 1959 (later "Atlantis studio"), and was later used on most Abba recordings. Here's an article, unfortunately in Swedish, with a few shots from the studio: http://mikrofonen.se/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Monitor_2012-10_runepersson-2.pdf Here's a nice article on the second Metronome studio, BTW: https://www.soundonsound.com/music-business/studio-file-atlantis-studios-stockholm

Thanks for the info, erwbol!

From a post by Sonnymax in the previous thread: "Pujol also asserts that "Many people believe that all labels coming from Andorra or Spain are related to FS. This is simply not true." So tell me then, what website advertises the Andorran labels' titles, as well as those from Fresh Sound? Answer: Blue Sounds, owned by Cristina Pujol Masdeu. And who distributes the physical product? Why, it's Absolute Distribution, whose parent company is Blue Moon Producciones Discograficas SL, a division of...drum roll, please...Fresh Sound Records."

I just spun this album. I seldom bring out the Mosaic set, but find myself putting the Merry Go Round LP on the turntable every once in a while. I like the variation in the instrumentation and that there's a happy vibe to much of the playing (absent from many of Elvin's other Blue Notes). Jan Hammer is definitely underrated as an acoustical pianist, and it's great fun to hear him in a two-keyboard quartet with Chick Corea. Like some posters above I don't give much for Keiko's composition, unfortunately. Corea's "La Fiesta" is a good track for a BFT. Not many people know that Pepper Adams played on the first recording of that tune, pre-RTF.

So if one person thinks there is a big difference between two artists and another one thinks it's not, the first one is a snob and the other one is right?

Can you be sure it wasn't Airto who was the genius? 

I wouldn't be the best judge since I only ever had one David S. Ware album. I did not understand or like the music at the time (it was 20 years ago) and I gave the album away.

I agree with this. An example: Chick Corea is instantly recognisable as a pianist and has made albums that do not sound much like anybody else's, like the first RTF albums. That's singular in the way I read Clifford's post. But does that make Chick into a genius? I cannot agree with the statement there are only three levels: geniuses, singulars and cover bands.

Thanks, everybody! It's quite a time-travel to go back in this thread that started 13 years ago (back when I was awaiting "cable connection" etc). It's a different world now, in many respects. Life is good to me, anyway. Wonderful family (kids now aged 4 and 6), new job since a month and still time for an occasional jazz gig.

Happy birthday!

I hear Sonny Clark in early Herbie Hancock.

"Got to post this recording session on Instagram!"

I still find it hard to keep track of the different releases and re-releases. As an example I'll take Bobby Hutcherson's 'Happenings'. TYCJ-81027 [SHM-CD] was released on Nov 20, 2013. That was the original BN75 release. UCCU-99154 [CD] was released on Sept 30, 2015. I assume that was not the same mastering as the excellent BN75 release. UCCU-5700 [SHM-CD] was released on Sept 28, 2016. Did it have the same mastering as the TYCJ release? UCCQ-9233 [SHM-CD] - yet another version released on Dec 14, 2016. I assume this a re-release of the RVG CD, judging from the item description on CDJapan. Any thoughts?

Thanks Lon, great info! Somehow I had missed that.

Unfortunately, if you prefer CD and want the alternate takes you will have to shell out even more; a used copy of one of the Japanese CD releases is almost $100.

Could they both really have been "very young"? There are nine years between Zeitlin and Evans.

Is anybody relying on allmusic these days? I would think that Discogs is a better bet, and it can be updated by anyone: https://www.discogs.com/artist/5017378-Organissimo

I'm not sure I should post in this thread, but it makes an uncomfortable read. Here in Sweden we've already had our first local "Weinstein" thanks to the #metoo campaign. It's all too familiar; a popular television program host has for years been molesting women that have in one way or another been dependent on him. Network executives (both men and women) knew, but it was all kept quiet because he was "worth too much". It's terrible when innocent people are accused and convicted (in court or "just" in the eye of the public) for crimes they didn't commit, be it sexual related or otherwise. But women have had to endure so much oppressive behaviour and sexual harassment from men for so long that something needs to change, radically. And if men are feeling uncomfortable by this "movement" it's nothing compared to how many times women have had to feel (rightly) uncomfortable because of a man in the room. Regarding cross-gender relations in a work environment, it's perfectly possible to have a great professional *and* personal relation with a colleague without bringing looks into the picture. I have fun at work almost every day, and I don't feel puritanical at all. As for holding up a door for someone, it doesn't seem like a big deal to me. If the person behind me is lecturing me about it I would assume that he/she is having a bad day or possibly other problems in life.

Among the first jazz albums I bought when I started out in the 80s were "Red in Bluesville" and "All kinds of weather" on OJC vinyl. Haven't spun those in 25 years, so I'll do that as soon as possible!

Yes, Chick was still Blue Mitchell's pianist on "Boss Horn" where those two compositions were recorded for the first time. Duke Pearson was the arranger for that Mitchell date and scaled them up for his own big band. BTW, I think the piano solo on Mitchell's recording of 'Tones for Joan's Bones' was Corea's best up to that date. I urge everyone who has 'Boss Horn' to spin it again.

A minor comment regarding the Dave Pike version of "Why Not"; on my copy of 'Pike's Peak' it's not credited to LaRoca, but to Pike himself (Regent Music, BMI).

Downloads are for the middle-aged - youngsters prefer streaming. As for the question of PD material I may be missing the point entirely, but I suspect that when Universal et al are reissuing material in Europe that is PD there they don't pay more fees than necessary, even if they actually do own the material. However, as far as these 5 CD sets are concerned there seem to be individual albums that are actually not in the PD in Europe.

I beg to differ. It just has to be the guy holding the LP. The colors of the spotlight reflections are all wrong.

I agree. Rooster, if you haven't heard Paris you should get it. It is one of the most affecting performances I've heard.