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Maybe I'm missing the point (I'm on a mobile phone and can't see the details) but I suppose it's a montage and that they mistakenly used the wrong shot of Lee.

Has anybody told Mr Was that he looks ridiculous always wearing a hat and sunglasses indoors.

Sorry that I don't quite get it, but would any of you who have heard more than version tell me the catalog number of the version to get of "A New Shade of Blue".

A very quick web search seems to indicate that the two part numbers are interchangeable.

Alan's last recording was with the Clarke-Boland big band? Would never have guessed that. I have the "Parabolic" release of his Verve album. The liner notes say: "The existence of this very album, originally recorded for the Verve label at the close of the Sixties, has long been a topic for discussion among discographers. This, its first appearance anywhere, should disappoint no-one interested in the progress of a very distinctive musician. Remember: it's taken several years to get this album onto your turntables, and it might be even longer before the next." ...

Duke Jordan has never really clicked with me and I shouldn't comment on his playing as I'm not very familiar with it. But assuming that I even understand what "marking the beat" means, I've not found Sonny Clark to do that like Duke Jordan does in these clips. As it happened, I listened several times to the Jackie McLean album 'A Fickle Sonance' a few weeks ago, and I remember Sonny Clark's solo on the opening 'Five Will Get You Ten' very well. I can't link to the YouTube clips of that tune because they are blocked over here, but check out his solo there. I just don't hear that much on the beat phrasing in it.

Why 2 CD:s If it's 80 minutes of music? Maybe it's 80 minutes and a half... But maybe the comic strip with Stanley Turrentine and Alfred Lion could be something?

According to Ratliff's Coltrane book Verve (in other words Universal?) digitized Tiberi's whole Coltrane tape collection, so at least they put in some effort. Too bad nothing could be released.

The 'Overseas' album (originally a series of EP:s) was recorded by Metronome sound engineer Gösta Wiholm in the label's studio at Karlavägen in Stockholm. The mixing table and the engraving machines were custom built by Wiholm. Tape recorders were from Ampex and Telefunken and the amps from Quad. Also the grand piano was custom built by Swedish guitar maker Georg Bolin who also made a handful of pianos, unconventionally designed with guitar-like sound boxes and requiring very frequent tuning. Famed jazz club the Golden Circle had another Bolin piano that some pianists (allegedly Bengt Hallberg, among others) simply refused to play on. The Golden Circle piano was therefore seldom used and eventually ended up in the next Metronome studio, built in a disused cinema in 1959 (later "Atlantis studio"), and was later used on most Abba recordings. Here's an article, unfortunately in Swedish, with a few shots from the studio: http://mikrofonen.se/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Monitor_2012-10_runepersson-2.pdf Here's a nice article on the second Metronome studio, BTW: https://www.soundonsound.com/music-business/studio-file-atlantis-studios-stockholm

Thanks for the info, erwbol!

From a post by Sonnymax in the previous thread: "Pujol also asserts that "Many people believe that all labels coming from Andorra or Spain are related to FS. This is simply not true." So tell me then, what website advertises the Andorran labels' titles, as well as those from Fresh Sound? Answer: Blue Sounds, owned by Cristina Pujol Masdeu. And who distributes the physical product? Why, it's Absolute Distribution, whose parent company is Blue Moon Producciones Discograficas SL, a division of...drum roll, please...Fresh Sound Records."

I just spun this album. I seldom bring out the Mosaic set, but find myself putting the Merry Go Round LP on the turntable every once in a while. I like the variation in the instrumentation and that there's a happy vibe to much of the playing (absent from many of Elvin's other Blue Notes). Jan Hammer is definitely underrated as an acoustical pianist, and it's great fun to hear him in a two-keyboard quartet with Chick Corea. Like some posters above I don't give much for Keiko's composition, unfortunately. Corea's "La Fiesta" is a good track for a BFT. Not many people know that Pepper Adams played on the first recording of that tune, pre-RTF.

So if one person thinks there is a big difference between two artists and another one thinks it's not, the first one is a snob and the other one is right?

Can you be sure it wasn't Airto who was the genius? 

I wouldn't be the best judge since I only ever had one David S. Ware album. I did not understand or like the music at the time (it was 20 years ago) and I gave the album away.

I agree with this. An example: Chick Corea is instantly recognisable as a pianist and has made albums that do not sound much like anybody else's, like the first RTF albums. That's singular in the way I read Clifford's post. But does that make Chick into a genius? I cannot agree with the statement there are only three levels: geniuses, singulars and cover bands.

Thanks, everybody! It's quite a time-travel to go back in this thread that started 13 years ago (back when I was awaiting "cable connection" etc). It's a different world now, in many respects. Life is good to me, anyway. Wonderful family (kids now aged 4 and 6), new job since a month and still time for an occasional jazz gig.

Happy birthday!

I hear Sonny Clark in early Herbie Hancock.

"Got to post this recording session on Instagram!"

I still find it hard to keep track of the different releases and re-releases. As an example I'll take Bobby Hutcherson's 'Happenings'. TYCJ-81027 [SHM-CD] was released on Nov 20, 2013. That was the original BN75 release. UCCU-99154 [CD] was released on Sept 30, 2015. I assume that was not the same mastering as the excellent BN75 release. UCCU-5700 [SHM-CD] was released on Sept 28, 2016. Did it have the same mastering as the TYCJ release? UCCQ-9233 [SHM-CD] - yet another version released on Dec 14, 2016. I assume this a re-release of the RVG CD, judging from the item description on CDJapan. Any thoughts?

Thanks Lon, great info! Somehow I had missed that.

Unfortunately, if you prefer CD and want the alternate takes you will have to shell out even more; a used copy of one of the Japanese CD releases is almost $100.

Could they both really have been "very young"? There are nine years between Zeitlin and Evans.

Is anybody relying on allmusic these days? I would think that Discogs is a better bet, and it can be updated by anyone: https://www.discogs.com/artist/5017378-Organissimo