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Just noticed a review of show in Dallas Morning News today. Appears the bassist was a stand in. McCoy Tyner is still full of surprises REVIEW: Legendary pianist opens Denton Jazz Fest 01:23 AM CDT on Sunday, April 29, 2007 By THOR CHRISTENSEN / The Dallas Morning News tchristensen@dallasnews.com DENTON --- McCoy Tyner would still be a legend if he’d quit playing music when he was 26 in 1964. That’s the year he lent his unpredictable piano work to John Coltrane’s A Love Supreme – arguably the greatest jazz album ever made. But he’s spent the last 40 years redefining jazz piano while testing out new sounds, new bands and new ideas. Friday night, he kicked off the Denton Arts & Jazz Festival at Denton Civic Center Park in full improv mode: You never knew he was going to do next, and of course, neither did he. As thrilling as that could be, not all his experiments worked. Mr. Tyner, 68, and drummer Eric Kamau Gravatt had trouble meshing with bassist Curtis Lundy, a temporary stand-in for usual bassist Gerald Cannon. Mr. Tyner’s solos on the Steinway grand were also hit-and-miss. At his best, he turned sweet melodies into bold hallucinations, like the Duke Ellington tune he transformed into a thundering hailstorm. But he struggled to find the groove in other tunes, and after a mere 40 minutes, he waved farewell. Even with encores, the show lasted barely 60 minutes – less a concert than an appetizer. He began the set with a bang in “Angelina,” his own composition from 2004’s Illuminations. Hard-driving and spiked with Cuban rhythms, it perfectly captured the percussive side of Mr. Tyner’s playing. Later, he whipped out power chords and serpentine riffs that recalled A Love Supreme before venturing into the African-tinged jazz he pioneered on his‘70s albums. Mr. Gravatt fueled the African sounds with his explosive beats, and his solos provided the high points of the set. Even if Mr. Tyner wasn’t in peak form, his drummer was never short of dazzling. You couldn’t have picked a lovelier night for an outdoor concert, and several thousand attentive jazz fans packed the park to see Mr. Tyner perform. The projection screen was a nice touch for fans way in back – although the trippy video effects were questionable: Watching musicians blend into asteroids and comets is an amusing image, but it’s better suited for a Pink Floyd tribute band than a jazz trio. DETAILS: The Denton Arts & Jazz Festival continues Saturday, 10 a.m. – 11 p.m. and Sunday 10:30 a.m. – 9 p.m. at Denton Civic Center Park, 321 East McKinney, Denton. Free. 940-565-0931. Susan Tedeschi headlines Saturday at 9 p.m.; Brave Combo headlines Sunday at 7 p.m. www.dentonjazzfest.com

I didn't catch his name. McCoy announced it, of course, but I missed it. Was hoping someone that attended caught the bassist and the drummer's name. It was an enjoyable show as I mentioned. McCoy's playing was predictable, but amazing nonetheless. He was very strong. Started with a tune from his most recent album, "Angelina" folowed by an Ellington tune "In a Mellow Tone", included something from Tender Moments I believe and several more tunes, a couple of which I did not recognize. The bassist was quite good but seemed TO ME to be having some trouble with his tone. I remember at one point McCoy repeated a call a number of times until he received the response he was looking for. In my opinion the first reponses from the bassist were off in tone and out of place. Still, overall a good show.

That's my guess as well. I have noticed that many of the 20's to 30's age group around these parts are becoming interested in free jazz first. That is to say post "Bitches Brew" but including and certainly not limited to Zorn, Scheep, late Coltrane, etc. Always surprises me, because I usually suggest Kind of Blue and Blue Train as a good staring point of entry for someone trying to get into jazz. Your list is a good cross section and probably better than single discs.....Another thing I always suggest to newcomers is to make sure that upon the first listen they have the time to listen to the whole disc all the way through at least 2-3 times. In my opinion, it will take that long before the tunes become familiar and they can begin to enjoy the improvisation. Folks that only listen to pop and rock are often surprised at how many times they have heard the song/tune on the radio before they purchase it..... my two cents!

OK, what did you guys think about Mr. Tyner's performance tonight? It was my first time to see Tyner and I am glad that I did. He seems to be showing his age a bit but the guy can still play! Wow. Although quite a showman, I did not find his bassist to be that strong. I did not catch his name or the name of his drummer who did a nice job I think. It was not the best show I have seen at the Jazz Fest. (that award would go to Wayne Shorter) but I am glad I was able to catch it. I don't think the open air venue is McCoy's best setting but it was enjoyable if not earth moving. I would love to catch his act in a club or small concert hall sometime. So, what did you think?

Whew! That's some memories...Add Herbie Nichols,McCoy and Hancock and that's about all of my favorites....none of which I have heard live. Go Chuck! I would be interested to know your opinion of who you felt put on the best show in that setting? I have a friend who speaks quite fondly of Bradley's.

Agreed. I was listening to this the other day and found myself appreciating Monk in a new way. To me, his playing here is much less "distinctively Monk", yet you can still hear the style that we all now associate with his playing. To me it is a confirmation of just how good Monk really was...he could play stride, he could play straight, he could play"Monk"....very enjoyable session.

I have several of these myself, the Marsh, Harper, Rosolino, but picked up the Oscar Moore on this recommendation. Very nice date and plenty long at 50 minutes. Glad to see others are digging these VSOP reissues.

Hey Sidewinder.....care to translate for us Yanks across the pond! I take it a Dog's Bollocks is good and ten a penny is expensive??? As they have always said, we are two countries separated by a common language!

For the record, I missed the Mobley as well because I was not up on all the Japanesse numbering issues and by the time I could get it clarified, it was long gone. I cancelled the rest of my order when I found that out!. I later did break down and purchase the Jim Hall which arrived quickly and in good condition. I think we share similar opinions about using THIS board to further one's profit motive. It seems to me that several years ago I picked up some great sessions here for very reasonable prices. I have also sold to other board members(for simply my cost) some duplicate rare CDs that I have found, . It seems many here are no longer interested in furthering each others collections but, instead, use the board members as simply a source of supply for their businesses. I no longer like to post the hard to find cds I may run across because they are simply snapped up and sold on EBAY. I guess those board members think they are smarter than the rest of us. Surely they must know that EBAY is accessible to everyone here. After happening to me several times I started seeking trades. Sometime they work but often they do not. In the future I guess I will post them at ebay prices and entertain all offers. I miss the old days; it seems we passed the music around for the love of it, now we pass it around for the profit in it. I enjoy this board for what I learn about jazz from people who know much more about the subject than I. I too like to read the commentary offered by others. I am sure this is what others here would refer to as "progress".....the Adam Smith doctrine and all of that. Still, it was nice thinking you might have 1000 extra pair of eyes helping you locate that one session that you just really "needed".

Maybe just a new marketing strategy.....Let's see.....we'll just change the name and add new art work and maybe we can get them to buy the same thing just one more time! Of course the "new" ones will have louder colors...... It's just a joke guys. just a joke. I can't keep from buying doubles even with the same name and art work....don't tell me I'm the only one!

Bertrand, Right about Vol. 2. It has been OOP for a long time. Recently spotted one after a long hunt and picked it up at a fair price... About the sale.. I had a nice basket full but wanted to get some clarification on the TOCJ series numbers. Did a search here ( I know we have talked about it) but my ability to use the search function here is challenged to say the least. Anyway, by the time I got someone on the phone most of the items were sold out...I suggested that next time they needed to provide more information and maybe some pictures so people know what they are buying.... For instance they had two CDs labeled Hank Mobley.. One was the Quintet and the other was Hank Mobley...already had the quintet and the other one was sold before I could get clarification.....Hopefully next time the info will be better.

Maybe it's the high shipping rates the Dutch Postal Services charge, Precisely!! It is a blessing and a curse. Hans, if shipping were not so hign I probably would be broke by now buying the stuff you sell here!

I will start off by saying I having purchased CDs from many different Sellers here and have NEVER had what I would consider a bad experience. Some better than others, of course, but never a bad experience. If someone is a regular contributer to the Board they generally guard their reputation carefully..... That said, I find that the really rare issues, those that bring top dollar on ebay, are often the hardest ones for me to know how to get rid of. If you offer them at low prices there are a few people here that are only in interested in them to make a profit. If you sell it to them, a week later you see them on ebay for three times the price you received. If you offer the rare ones for trade only, most of the time, you will not receive offers of comparable value because people do not want to get rid of their rarest items......therefore, they have nothing to trade. Finally, if you ask people to make an offer they generally respond asking you to list a price. A fair price is pretty hard to determine. You can go to half.com or amazon and see if they have one listed but generally those prices are over the top and it is questionable if the item will ever sell for that price. If you look for a relatively current ebay sale they may, or may not, have a recent comparable sale. ... I currently have duplicates of some very hard cds to find that I have been holding for awhile because of this quandry..I may just offer them for a price that looks fair to me and ask anyone interested to make an offer at a different price if interested and see what happens. I know people on the board would like first crack at these without having to deal with ebay, but like I said, the rarest ones are the hardest ones for me to deal with. Good luck. Hope to see you list them here soon.

OK.....I'll spring for the Lalama upon Jazzydaddy's recommendation Ralph LaLama

PM sent on the Byrd-Gryce Jazz Lab CD.......

A side of Moose we seldom see!! Hey Moose, maybe you're showing the wrong end in your avatar? ....just kidding of course. Have a good one!

PM sent regarding the above CDs.

The 20th is here. Anyone already picked up the newest batch? I admit: I'm excited about picking up Compulsion!, even though I already have the music. Will probably pick up the Byrd, too. "Say You're Mine" is such a beautiful piece of music. Those are the two I am looking forward to.... Have the others in one format or the other.

But... but... we're just getting started! Woa! Nothing to add? What the hell!! You guys know more about jazz than I'll ever know. Some of us here look forward to the comments that you guys contribute. In fact there are a bunch of guys on the board that are extremely knowledgeable.That said, I always look with interest to the comments made by Jim, David and Chuck. Don't always agree, but I do read them with interest. Now that we have finished the love fest (ha) Anyway, I hope that was just a temporary sentiment. I think you guys have a lot to add and David says,...we're just getting started.

Thanks! Are you related to that ol' Undergroundagent that I used to trade CDs with occasionally around here? If so, welcome back.

Thanks guys, I nabbed it yesterday. Very interesting music. Glad I listened to your suggestions! Thanks again....

Spotted a Blue Note two-fer of his UA releases... As there was no way to listen to it can someone share an opinion about this release. Thanks

Don't have Tenorman but these last 4 numbers feature Clay and Geller with Red Mitchell on bass and Billy Higgins on drums, working in the studio on "Scrapple From The Apple", "Out Of The Blue", "Sandu", and "Cheek To Cheek". can be found on the OJC release Presenting Red Mitchell

Not his best work IMHO. All mentioned above much better.