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No way that you saw this on a streaming service, or I would've found it. I've been looking for this doc for a long time, and TTK has come through in a big way Let's all raise our glasses to the mysterious TTK for finding a doc I've been looking for for 16 years! By chance, my brother happened to be visiting, and we both freaked out that the doc both of us had been looking for was available on Vimeo. I've read about the filmmaker, and he's not a musician or even a jazz fan. He's just a hipster dude that dug GMac's music of the late 60s, and was so fascinated by it, that he started researching GMac. I don't know if I discussed it here, but I attended the world premiere of the Judee Sill doc. "Lost Angel", and I helped the filmmaker out with some research (my name is displayed in big letters on the screen during the end credits!), and I met the filmmaker for the first time. He was not a young hipster type like St. Claire, but an experienced filmmaker and actor, who knew HOW to make a balanced doc. That could account for the awkwardness in the Gary Mac doc; simply inexperience. This was sure a trip down memory lane for me, as I worked with a lot of the musicians interviewed and mentioned in the doc, and the thing that literally scared the hell out of me was the shot of Jimmy Raney at Jim and Andy's. He looked like some type of hillbilly, bizarro world Jimmy Raney, who could've been a country singer or something (he was from Kentucky)! Mason Hoffenberg has some essay online in which he claims that he killed a well-known jazz musician. He's died a while ago, so there's no point in further investigation...

A friend of mine said he saw Gail Madden playing piano and singing with the Gerry Mulligan Big Band at the Kool Jazz Festival in 1981!

Dick's son said that DM did countless tours with the Average White Band, and you might be able to hear him on some of their live recordings. He also said Molly was a student of DM's, and his funk playing was very influenced by DM's. The first time I saw If was at The Fillmore East when I was a kid, and my drug addled friends and I were going to see Black Sabbath, and they were both opening acts for Rod Stewart. If was the opening act, and I had never seen anything like that before; two tenors, organ, a guitarist who actually picked all of his notes instead of using distortion Jim Richardson's incredible chops, and a drummer that played like Dennis Elliot did. When Sabbath came on, I couldn't believe how awful they were compared to If, and by the time Rod Stewart came on with his bottle of Southern Comfort, I had had enough, and walked out. DM said that Sabbath were like a bunch of kids playing nursery rhymes, but appreciated that Rod Stewart tried to swing. It was interesting that DM judged rock bands on their ability to "swing". I assume he was referring to their ability to get in some type of groove. I saw them again at The Gaslight Cafe in the Village, and Terry Smith was featured much more than he was at the Fillmore, and I left the place thinking that TS was the modern equivalent of Django Reinhardt. By the time the original band members started to split (he was saddened to see Dennis Elliot join Foreigner, because he thought DE was one of the few drummers who could play jazz as well as he played rock), DM was just doing IF for the buck, and continued to get disillusioned with rockers to the point that he was happiest just playing jazz at local clubs like The Bull's Head, performing standards.

I just met his son online, and he turned me on to this:

RIP. I used to work for a trumpet player who played at the Catskill Mountain resorts with Angelo, back in the day.

Wow! When I started this thread, I knew it was going to be interesting, but not on the level of Randy's fascinating article. I read the whole piece in absolute amazement. Is there any further information on the unbelievable Gail Madden (McNulty?) in your book "Talking Jazz..." that isn't in that amazing piece Niko posted from "Jazz Profiles". or is it a condensation of that piece? That photo of her with Terry Gibbs and Manny Albam is much better than the one I got from Bill Crow, and gives a better idea of what type of person she was. She comes off as a woman who was no shrinking violet, and who probably did do at least some of the things she claimed to do. Also, she was no 'music whore' like Ralph J. Gleason, who just shook off jazz as soon as rock offered him a bigger paycheck and larger role in the youth culture, even though she was not a music journalist. She seemed to be a serious jazz/blues lover, and musician. It seemed a little eerie when she started to talk about music being related to Pythagoras, whom Judee Sill listed as one of her strongest musical influences, as well as Ray Charles(!) and Bach. However, we have Sill's recordings as proof of her musical talent, and we have only maracas for Madden...LOL

I'm only interested in the stuff from 1971 that has Bob Harris(1) playing the long keyboard solo on Billy The Mountain. I bought "Playground Psychotics" for it, and it smoked. Harris subbed for Preston on the first part of the tour, but then Preston came back sometime in the late Summer. I don't know if you want to go to the trouble of checking that out for me (because it may be just a small portion of the collection that I'd be interested in buying- I'm not interested in any post-Harris material), but if you're interested in selling just that part to me, I'd have to know how many discs have Harris playing that solo.

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The NYC Jazz book has some great jazz pictures in it, but they're interspersed with pictures of the author's parents sitting at dinner tables, WWII service pictures of her father, pictures of her mother with when she was single with two of her single friends with a caption saying this was the last picture of them before they each got married, pictures of Doris Day, Vivian Blaine at the Stork Club,non-jazz singers Betty George, Ann Hathaway, Jeanne Cummins, Betty Brewer and Harriet Hilliard, wife of Ozzie Nelson (Ozzie and Harriet). There are numerous pictures of Les Paul with the same paragraphs underneath about how he invented multiple tracking, and designed a guitar that is used by prominent rock guitarists, over and over again. A picture of her mother's brother in a bathing suit on the dock of Newark Bay. More pictures of Doris Day and Ann Hathaway, pictures of a scary looking female bass player Vivian Garry, a few pictures of Josephine Premice, a Broadway singer/actress, more pictures of Jeanne Cummins with the society dance band of Bernie Cummins. Then, for some reason, the book climaxes with huge page-length pictures of Joe Satriani, a rock-fusion guitarist, Eric Clapton smoking a cigarette in the middle of a field,and Jimi Hendrix holding his Stratocaster, smiling at us. While it does have shots of jazz clubs on 52nd St. with some jazz musicians, there are an equal number of 'society' dance bands with attractive female singers This is published by Arcadia , which apparently specializes in picture books of various towns and cities- not jazz.

Oh yeah, you got it! Do you have any idea why that POS exists?

I think I've managed to find the worst book ever written on jazz in the history of mankind. I stumbled on to it during a search, and was excited by its title, so I ordered it from my local library. The title is "NYC Jazz". I abbreviated the city involved in case the author is out there and wants to murder me. Has anyone ever uh... read this? It's mainly pictures with unbelievable blurbs written underneath the pictures.

I went into NYC for the first time since the pandemic to see the world premiere of the documentary on Judee Sill that I had contributed some home recordings of the jazz pianist she married, Bob Harris. https://www.docnyc.net/film/lost-angel-the-genius-of-judee-sill/ The two directors of the film worked for NINE Years(!) on the doc, and it showed it. It was done very well, considering that she died back in 1979, and they had no footage of her speaking. They used a voice actress to simulate JS' voice on the two interviews that she did for Rolling Stone and some other periodical, and she also read the letters and diary entries by JS, that her family had contributed to the directors. They went over the tragic stories of her life; child abuse, robbing liquor stores, jail, prostitution, drug addiction, back injuries,etc.., which I had heard before, so I didn't find particularly affecting. But then they played some of her music through the incredible sound system of the SVA Theater, and when they reached some of the string arrangements done by Bob Harris (the first album) and JS (the second album), I felt the tears welling up in my eyes. Her music could be very powerful emotionally, even though the lyrics dealt with her weird theosophy that audiences pretty much ignored back in the early 70s. Then the credits rolled, and I was surprised that they included my name in big letters under the "Thanks to" part at the end. I was so surprised, I burst out laughing. A young woman from Rolling Stone interviewed the two directors and the singer/songwriter Shawn Colvin, who had covered one of JS' songs. Since I knew most of the things in the film, I decided to ask about the incident in which David Crosby was bugging her and JS took off his belt, and started running after him, whipping him with it as Crosby fled for his life. The director I emailed about it said he had heard that there was a rubber chicken involved, so I asked him about the David Crosby "Rubber Chicken Incident", and the packed theater started laughing. The director seemed kind of embarrassed about the question, and said he couldn't discuss it publicly, and they ended the Q&A session on that note. Anyway, the audience concluded that not enough people knew about JS, and the directors urged them to spread the word about her. You can still see the doc streaming on the web through the link I posted above, so I've done my part.

Jim Hall played "Skylark" for Jimmy Raney's Memorial service at St. Peter's. I'm pretty sure he played it at some other guitar player's service also( Atilla Zoller's?). I played "Nancy With the Laughing Face" at my mother's wake. I started singing it at the part where her name is mentioned, but then I burst out crying

Good to hear that security features are being updated. I read something online that showed you how to delete your caches and cookies, so I tried it, and got knocked off of every website that needed a password. That was no big deal for every website except this one. I forgot my old password and when I tried to set a new password, I got an ominous message that I would be compromising all personal information in my account if I reset my password, so I ran for the hills with my tail between my legs. I tried to reset my password this time, and it seemed like this website was more secure when I went up to the symbols in the address bar, so I reset a new password, but after I did that I got a new message in the security images in the address bar with a triangle on my padlock which means: "A padlock with a triangle indicates that Firefox is not blocking insecure passive content, such as images. By default, Firefox does not block mixed passive content; you will simply see a warning that the page isn't fully secure. Attackers may be able to manipulate parts of the page like displaying misleading or inappropriate content, but they should not be able to steal your personal data from the site." Which is better than the previous message, but is this website going to be totally secure come Dec.1st, or will it be the same as it is now (which seems to be okay, except for insecure passive content such as images)?

Thanks, guys.

Does anyone know what happened to the merchandise Phil was selling on his website? He had a tape of a recording session I did with Joe Dixon that had a bunch of my compositions and arrangements going for $25 for sale. I came into some big money ($27.50) last night when I dumped all my pennies, nickels and dimes into one of those coin machines, and I'm looking to spend it somewhere...

He was also another house drummer for CTI. He's on one of those Turrentine records mentioned in the Creed Taylor thread.

Bob Bruno told me he used to play at a club in LA in the early 60's where MTM would be sitting right in front of him. Imagine Laura Petrie within touching distance for four hours! Rob was probably out doing Millie... Bob Bruno told me he used to play at a club in LA in the early 60's where MTM would be sitting right in front of him. Imagine Laura Petrie within touching distance for four hours! Rob was probably out doing Millie...

They never showed the Petrie's bedroom, just that same freaking living room, where he trips over the furniture every week, so we can only assume the Petries were celibate throughout their entire marriage.

Hey, little girl, Comb your hair, fix your make-up. Soon he will open the door. Don't think because There's a ring on your finger, You needn't try any more For wives should always be lovers, too. Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you. I'm warning you. You're telling me that Hal David warning women that they should behave like obedient little dogs is not dated and cornball. Even Michael Bourne (RIP) put this one down on his radio show as hopelessly outdated and anti-feminist! LOL!

I guess like Felser, I was reading too much into it. With that info from the re-issue's liner notes, it does make more sense that it was just wackiness. If it had been like his work for Ramsey Lewis, all instrumental, the issue wouldn't come up, but Hal David's lyrics are so cornball, giving them a hip treatment just comes off as comical, trippy,satirical, whatever. It's just hard to take the part where the Dells are going ba ba ba ba, and the lead singer is testifyin' in a gritty voice seriously. in a song like "Close To You". I mean, WHO DOES THAT? LOL!

He does some great Puerling- like things with it, but at the same time, he's making fun of most of the songs. The Dells were in on it, too.

I agree with you. It sounds like they/Stepney were making fun of Bachrach/David songs. The out of tune whistling, the weak sounding vocal on Raindrops, The morbid sound on Planes. the cornball stops on a few of them, the weird ending on Alfie, the mocking (probably deserved) of the demeaning lyrics of Wives and Lovers, the overdone dynamics, the snide comments that went by pretty fast, and as you said, the fact that Warwick didn't even sing a bunch of those songs, and they called it "The Dells Sing Dionne Warwick's Greatest Hits". Even the record cover has them laughing, not smiling! It's too much to be a coincidence. I wonder ho Burt took it? Hal David was already put down by some lyricists, but they were going after both of them here.The Dells got a new producer after this album...

I almost forgot about that Gilberto and Turrentine album, which IMHO was more consistent than Salt Song (other than the title track, of course) Stanley kills on everything, and there's always Astrud and great Deodato arrangements again. The pairing of Stanley and Astrud worked a lot better than the ridiculous pairing of Astrud and Gil Evans. He wrote back and said it's coming in the future. I hope we're not going to get another Al Haig drama...