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Ha!

Given that Ornette Coleman is not always the easiest person to understand in a spoken dialog, there could very well just be a misunderstanding here. In the end, it will come down to whether a clear written contractual agreement was signed. I rather doubt it.

RIP

The three titles that are known to exist from this Stan Kenton concert with Bird are Night and Day, My Funny Valentine, and Cherokee. This CD contains two more tracks with Kenton - On the Alamo and Manteca. Now the Pete Losin discography notes that there are more tracks with Bird rumored from this session, BUT...it also says that there are tracks from this date already reissued that have Dizzy Gillespie as the guest soloist rather than Bird, including On the Alamo and Manteca. Listening to the samples on Allmusic would suggest that these are indeed the tracks with Gillespie and not Bird http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/BirdSessions.aspx?s=540225

Happy birthday, Chuck, and thank you for continuing to grace this Forum.

Also pick up Charlie Parker at Birdland and Cafe Society. As Bird himself says, "we sincerely hope you will enjoy WITHOUT STRINGS Just Friends, April in Paris, Summertime" Bird is in top form!

RIP

Thanks for that link, James!

Ace has been releasing BB King's recordings from the 50s and early 60s - the period before he signed with ABC. On balance, that is my favorite BB King. You can hear his distinctive guitar playing maturing and emerging, which was already almost there in the latter 1950s. His singing voice was never better. BB King had a smooth crooning voice and falsetto at that time, which he combined with a bit of shouting, that was already in decline at the time he signed with ABC. Ace has released this music in various forms and on various compilations. The most impressive releases (IMO) are the 11 CDs that package the original Crown LPs with a lot of bonus tracks in fantastic sound quality. The other set of note is the 4-CD set: The Vintage Years that makes a great selection and also boasts very good sound quality and speed corrections for a number of tracks. The other two that I pull out sometimes are The Best of BB King Volumes 1 & 2. Those CDs were (I believe) the first Ace BB King releases, and included horn dubs over most of the tracks. This generated a lot of criticism at the time when most of the tacks without horn dubs were not available on CD. But I actually enjoy hearing the tracks with horns sometimes.

Very interesting. Thanks for the heads up. I want to hear what Bird plays on some of those new alternates.

BB King often got composer credit or co-composer credit on songs that he didn't actually write, at least not from scratch. BB King generally took songs from others and put such a distinctive stamp on them that one might argue that he re-composed them. Lowell Fulson recorded 3'O Clock Blues and Every Day I Have the Blues around the same time in the late 1940s. BB King would seem to have gotten both songs from Fulson, although "Every Day I Have the Blues" really comes from Memphis Slim, who first recorded it as "Nobody Loves Me." BB King got "The Thrill is Gone" from Roy Hawkins. BB's version is so different that it virtually qualifies as a different song.

Some interesting thoughts here. I personally put a huge premium on sincerity - I really like it when an artist puts all of his or her cards on the table in a sincere manner. What bothers me a lot about some art, including music, that loosely falls under the category of post-modernism is its seeming lack of sincerity, a parody of a parody so to speak, a mask hidden behind a mask hidden behind another mask. That may be good for a temporary laugh or two, but not usually for the ages.

Bud and Pres were also complete opposites in a way. Pres was the super-relaxed street-smart jazzman who all the hipsters tried to emulate, whereas Bud was the usually tense neurotic nerd who could never quite comprehend what was going on in the world around him. Ironically, their creative paths had some real similarities.

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Grooveyard is the same as Harold in the Land of Jazz, which has been mentioned - a strong session.

Bouncing With Bud also dates from 1962, like the Lausanne and Geneva concerts. It seems that Bud was in a sort of resurgence at that time. Back to the original question of this thread, the other Bud Powell from 1962 is the Golden Circle, which I also consider to be highly worthwhile Bud.

If you are as big a Bud Powell fan as you seem to be, I don't think that you will be disappointed with the Golden Circle recordings. Two later live CDs to look out for with quite strong performances from 1962: Live in Lausanne Live in Geneva

God bless BB King

He had a great comeback in the 70s too with "Supernatural Thing." RIP to the last of the Soul Clan.

I was first in Preservation Hall in 1975, several times. Unfortunately, I didn't even pay attention then to who was playing other than the leader - Sweet Emma, who led the band with one arm after her stroke. It was quite nice. Back then, there was no fanfare. You could just walk into Preservation Hall for free. There was usually no line.

Did the melodies that ran upside down have anything to do with the upside down cake they were serving at Minton's?

Correct. Maybe it is three equations, it which case the answer would be 5 5 2 If it is one equation and they mistaken left of the plus signs that link them, then the answer is 12. The rule in mathematics is that, in the absence of anything else, multiplication and division before addition and subtraction.

Cecil had a great band then.

The Lord Online Discography allows you to do this: Louis Armstrong's All Stars :Louis Armstrong (tp,vcl)Jack Teagarden (tb)Roy Ross (accor)Nicky Tagg (p) unidentified (b) Sidney Catlett (d) Art Ford (announcer) WNEW radio broadcast, 8:35p.m. - 9:30 p.m., New York City, April 26, 1947 Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans (la vcl,*) V-Disc 760, Locomotive (E)ML21012, Joker (It)SM313 Joker (It)SM3131, Saga (E)ERO8014, PAN6913, Kings of Jazz (It)KLJ20002, Ozone 3, Decca (G)PD12006, Family (It)SFR-DP640, Festival (F)ALB144, Dan (J)VC5014, Vik KV128, Elec (Jap)KV128, Classics (F)992 [CD], Lady Day Box (It)LDB03, JUTB (It)3036 [CD], Sound Hills (Jap)8005/16 [CD], Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD184 [CD] Ain't misbehavin' (hs out,la vcl) V-Disc 784, Palm Club (F)PALM05, Ariston (It)12010, Saga (E)PAN 6904, Alamac QSR2436, (F)180.053, Jazz Society (F)67401, Dan (Jap)VC5006, Musidisc (F)JA5102, Boulevard (E)BD3001, Swing House (E)SWH44, Classics (F)992 [CD], Laserlight 15773 [CD], Forlane UCD19002 [CD], Collectors Choice Music CCM4509 [CD], Definitive (And)DRCD11291 [CD] Lover (jt,nt,unidentified-b,sc only) (unissued) Reminiscin' with Louis (includes) [High society] V-Disc 784, Queen (It)Q-004, Dan (Jap)VC5006, Swing House (E)SWH44, Phontastic (Swd)NOST7662, PHONT9308 [CD], Laserlight 15773 [CD], Classics (F)992 [CD], Definitive (And)DRCD11291 [CD] Basin Street blues (jt vcl) (unissued) Muskrat ramble - Note: (*) This title on V-Disc uses this performance by Louis then splices on the Billie Holiday vocal from the Louis Armstrong Carnegie Hall concert of February 8, 1947 (see there for more details about releases). This composite is used on almost all issues. The information listed in "V-Discs" by Richard Sears is incorrect. The date of this broadcast has been listed as February 18, 1947 (Westerberg, Schaap) but Sears' gives the above date from the V-Disc files. Furthermore February 28, 1947 was a Tuesday, not a Saturday. Also on this date but in the afternoon, Louis Armstrong was guest on the "This Is Jazz" radio show which is detailed under that heading in this work. "Reminiscin' with Louis" is a conversation between Art Ford and Louis Armstrong. Before Armstrong begins speaking, one chorus of "High Society" is played by Louis Armstrong (tp) Jack Teagarden (tb) Nick Tagg (p) unidentified (b) Sid Catlett (d). Queen (It)Q-004 titled "Reminiscin' With Louis". Laserlight 15773 [CD] titled "Louis Armstrong And His All-stars" (also part of 3 CD set Laserlight 55554 [CD]); see flwg sessions to April 25, 1950 and "Eddie Condon", "V-Disc All Star Jam Session" for rest of CD. Definitive (And)DRCD11291 [CD] titled "Louis Armstrong - Complete New York Town Hall & Boston Symphony Hall Concerts"; rest of this 3 CD set by Louis Armstrong. [A5775]Add Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong And His Orchestra :Louis Armstrong (tp,vcl)Bobby Hackett (cnt)Jack Teagarden (tb,vcl)Peanuts Hucko (cl,ts)Ernie Caceres (cl,bar)Johnny Guarnieri (p,cel-1)Al Casey (g)Al Hall (b)Cozy Cole (d) New York, June 10, 1947 D7VB952-2 Jack-Armstrong blues (jt,la vcl) Vic 20-2348, 47-1010, LJM1005, LPM (S)2971, HMV (E)B9819, (F)7EG8065, SG280, 7EMF23, RCA (F)A75382, 430205, FXM3-7241, (G)EPA9566, (Eu)CL89799, Time-Life STL-J08, Camden CAL422, Swinghouse (E)SWH44, VJC 1016-2 [CD], The Entertainers (Eu)CD0250 [CD], Giants of Jazz CD53088 [CD], Laserlight 15773 [CD], Jazz Roots CD56030 [CD], Vintage Jazz Classics VJC1016-2 [CD] D7VB953 Rockin' chair (jt,la vcl) Vic 20-2348, 420/447-0067, EPA5000, LEJ-1, LJM1005, LPM (S)2982, Playboy PB1957, Cam CAL383, (E)CDN112, HMV (E)B9583, RCA (E)RCX1007, (F)430205, FXM3-7241, (G)EPA9566, Col (E)33CX1529, (F)FPX167, (G)90977, The Entertainers (Eu)CD0250 [CD], Giants of Jazz (It)CD53088 [CD], Jazz Roots CD56030 [CD] D7VB954-1 Some day you'll be sorry (la vcl, 1,*) Vic 20-2530, EPAT-1443, LPM1443, VPM6044, HMV (E)B9630, RCA (E)RC24002, HMV (F)SG161, RCA (G)EPA9566, RCA LPM1443, (F)430258, Vik VP180, Franklin Mint GJR002, Phontastic (Swd)Nost7662 D7VB955-2 Fifty-fifty blues Vic 20-2530, 947-0163, LJM1005, LPM (S)2982, VPM6044, HMV (E)B9630, 7EG8065, Cam CAL588, (E)CDN147, RCA (F)430205, (G)EPA9566, The Entertainers (Eu)CD0250 [CD] Note: VJC 1016-2 [CD] issued as "Christmas Jubilee"; rest of CD by others All titles except (*) on Bluebird 66244-2 [CD]. Title from Victor LPM1443 also on RCA International (E)INTS5070. All above titles also on RCA (Jap)RA-13/16, RCA (Jap)RA-16, Giants of Jazz (It)LPJT69, Bluebird 5920-1-RB, 6378-2 [CD], RCA Victor 68682-2 [CD], RCA (Eu)74321846512 [CD], (Eu)ND89279 [CD], Classics (F)1072 [CD], Properbox (E)24 [CD], Bluebird 09026-63846-2 [CD]. [A5799]Add Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong And His All Stars :Louis Armstrong (tp,vcl)Jack Teagarden (tb,vcl)Barney Bigard (cl)Earl Hines (p)Arvell Shaw (b)Sidney Catlett (d)Velma Middleton (vcl) Broadcast "Empire Room", Los Angeles, March 24-April 3, 1949 When it's sleepy time down south Swinghouse (E)SWH2, Joyce 1135 Panama For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, De (G)PD12008, Joker (It)SM3133, Swing House (E)SWH2, Jazz Society (F)67414, Saga (E)PAN6931, Joyce 1135, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Back o' town blues For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Saga (E)PAN6931, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Pale moon For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Swing House (E)SWH2 Don't fence me in Swinghouse (E)SWH2, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Lover (la,bb out) For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Swinghouse (E)SWH2, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Body and soul For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Saga (E)PAN6931, Joyce 1135 Note: The above from AFRS Jubilee #339. Those titles on FDC (It)1017 also on Ariston (It)ARI12078, Those titles on Laserlight 15773 [CD] also included in Laserlight 3CD set 55554 [CD]. All above titles also on Storyville (Dan)STCD8232 [CD] titled "Live at the Hollywood Empire 1949", see flwg 3 sessions for rest of CD. [A5802]Add Louis Armstrong Broadcast "Empire Room", Los Angeles, March 24-April 3, 1949 A song was born (la,jt vcl) Swinghouse (E)SWH2 Whispering - Note: Above from AFRS Jubilee #347. both titles on Laserlight 15773 [CD], 55554 [CD], Storyville (Dan)STCD8232 [CD].

Still no release that I am aware of. I listened to these rediscovered tracks at the Harlem Jazz Museum last year - incredible stuff.