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That's a great half album to me, play the Love For Sale/Autumn Leaves side way, way more than the other.

Maybe they just wanted the issue resolved, with minimum involvement from them.

You may very well be right, not sleeping is rough.

Sometimes, and if it's what you're used to then more than sometimes.

There's many regular people (as opposed to record collectors) who want, say, High Tide & Green Grass and not just any damn RS hits collection, either because it's got exactly the tunes they want, or they can't remember which tunes they want but they remember that album, or just because....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Music_Hall

Not really expecting greatness at this late date, but I'm going to check it out just out of respect.

Still better 'n half the shit that passes for poetry, thanks!

Struck me afterwards that I'd picked one each by my 5 fav drummers - Billy, Roy, Tony, Max, and Elvin. Only thing missing is Art Blakey - make and album of the first side of Moanin' and the 2nd side of the Big Beat (the one that starts with Dat Dere, did I remember the name right?) and that's in there too then. Not usually consciously drummer centric, but there it is.

Oh I agree, and thought I had made it clear above, that there's a whole lot of messed up stuff packed into the Nobel peeps rationale here, but that doesn't stop me from being glad they did it - if peeps had to just go from one wholly consistent position to another, they'd never get there.

...and the're both literature, IMHO, YMMV, etc. There's no dividing line to art. best poetry is the horn line at the end.

I dig Ken Nordine, Cleo Laine not so much. Not sure what your point is here.

Of course, I also think Van Morrison spelling his girlfriend's name is better poetry than anything Patti Smith has ever done.

Bob's better literature, better everything than either of these, so is the more familiar "St. Louis Woman".

James Carter unquestionably has massive skills http://harderbop.blogspot.com/2011/04/james-carter-ruined-my-life.html But to my way of thinking he's never made any music on record that's commensurate with those skills. If I had to pick one album of his it would be the Django tribute 'cause it just tickles me to hear him charging around on bass sax, but that's damn close to novelty act stuff.

I must be in a different time zone; here it's somewhere between half past that time and quarter to the next thing.

Such great music, does the vinyl have the same tracks as the CD?

https://www.acerecords.co.uk/search?query=songwriter+series Post-standards songwriters are a varied bunch, not readily put all in one bag. "Yester is/the prefix/that we fix/to things that have gone by/forever they say" I thought JSangrey's Smokey quote was decidedly non-conversational in terms of where the accents fall...

Agreed, good thing the're not grading right minus wrong though 'cause when he's good... And the arguments against (here and elsewhere) are IMHO as much special pleading as the arguments for - just to take the most glaring fallacy is the Spectator article, since when do poets have to be nice people or even reasonable? And the way it sets itself up for its conclusion is just cheap...

Agreed, good thing the're not grading right minus wrong though 'cause when he's good...

"The Lovano side that seems to have been slept on is Friendly Fire, with Greg Osby, Jason Moran, Cameron Brown, & Idris Muhammad. That one gets frisky and rope-walky, downright noisy at times. More of that type thing in general, music that forces you to have an opinion, would have been good. " I've passed on that more than once, ditto the Summit with Leibman and Ravi, may have to remedy that. Miguel Zenon, is he the one who did the album where the tunes were interspersed with bit of Porto Rican radio?

Now that I've had time to let this sink in, I'd rather they gave it to someone less arty and more songwriting as songwriting, more attentive to detail and, well, more like Smokey Robinson or Chuck Berry or Willie Nelson. But we all know that wasn't going to happen. Larry: I appreciate what you're saying and especially the attention to detail/close argument rather than sweeping generalizations so common in this sort of pre- vs. post-rock comparison. But sometimes standards have a too much craft for too little impact/diminishing returns/overwrought painting ourselves into a beautiful corner quality for me. And then other times I think the BIG BREAK aspect is overstated and that Lennon & McCartney, Burt Bacharach, ____, ______________ (you fill in the blanks) were closer to the Great American Songbook than whatever it is that's happening now. Not a coherent, much less closely reasoned and detail supported, argument...I know.

Hank Mobley , Caddy For Daddy - Not just generic BN, not to me. Even if it is, how good is that? Oliver Nelson, Blues and the Abstract Truth - Not just a formal exercise on two common forms, and even if it is... Stan Getz, Captain Marvel - Not fusion to me, Don Wilkerson's Preach is my idea of fusion. The last great record by Tony or Chick. Sonny Rollins, Saxophone Collosus - Intelligent swagger. Just so right from first note to last. Sonny Sharrock, Ask the Ages - Not just my fav SS, fav Pharaoh and Elvin too. Thank you Mr. Laswell. I love Miles, Trane, Monk, Duke, Jelly, Bird, Frisell, Giufre, Papper, etc. And have many favorite performances by them. Same for less celebrated persons and organists I dig too. But these are 5 that sprung to mind that are head and shoulders, reach for 'em all the time and strike me as being all of a piece. Could also do five live, or five pre-album, or five not jazz.

Hmm, no thanks, not today anyways.

Happy b-day to him, I think he was born a curmudgeon, but I hope he takes time out from his usual rigorous self-criticism to enjoy the day.