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Damn if some of this doesn't sound a ton (specifically in the vocal delivery) like Tyrone Washington's Do Right. And I say that as someone deeply conflicted by Do Right -- meaning I'm not sure Yusef Lateef's lone(?) funk(!) album entitled Autophysiopsychic (CTI, 1977) is really all that much better, though I'll grant that it's perhaps slightly 'slicker'. Only just stumbled on this for the very first time tonight. The tracks with vocals are easily as "haunting" as Do Right. Tracks #3 & #4 (which seem to be largely instrumental) aren't half bad for what they are (and feature Art Farmer to good effect). The time-index points for the 5 tracks are as follows. 00:00 - Robot Man 06:37 - Look On Your Right Side 11:47 - YL (pronounced eel) 19:43 - Communication 29:05 - Sister Mamie But the tracks (#1, #2, & #5) with vocals are all pure "Tyrone/Do-Right"...

Pretty sure that's right. I'm about 90% sure it's only been on CD (individually, apart from the Mosaic) just that one time, from Japan. And seemingly for only about 15 minutes, judging from its scarcity.

OMG!!

I just scored a copy of this on eBay over the weekend, $32 shipped to my door (ouch, but every other copy I've seen since February has been double or triple that, including international shipping. The one I got is only coming from Moscow, thankfully -- Moscow IDAHO!! Next I gotta track down a score for this (which actually didn't look all that impossible when I looked back in March), and see if this is something our church choir (Unitarian) can perform. Seriously.

Quoting myself (from 2 years ago), as on Saturday I just picked up a $3 mint promo copy of Bobby's second leader-date: All Because of You (1979). I liked ETA (his first for Roulette) slightly better - because it's a little bigger band, and a little more adventurous arranging -- but this, his second ever leader-date (also for Roulette), is nearly as good. I'd GLADLY buy both these Roulette dates on CD, if I had the chance. Haven't checked, but maybe they'd even both fit on one CD - ? Just checked, and ETA is 45:43, but ABoY is only 35:46 -- so if you could trim even just 60 seconds, both would fit on one disc. Some would call that a crime, but there are worse crimes. They're both solid albums, but I'll admit that part of it is they sound a little dated (in a good way), not entirely dripping in a certain "70's sound" -- but they both do have a bit of that quality to them.

RE: Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 1 -- MPS 06025 1779747 -- Includes the albums: - Zo-Ko-Ma (1968), feat. Attila Zoller, Lee Konitz, Barre Phillips & Stu Martin - Wild Goose (1969), feat. Colin Wilkie & Shirley Hart, Joki Freund, Emil Mangelsdorff, Heinz Sauer, Günter Lenz & Ralf Hübner - Never Let It End (1970), feat. Heinz Sauer, Günter Lenz & Ralf Hübner - Trombone Workshop (1971), feat. Slide Hampton, Ake Persson, Jiggs Whigham, George Gruntz, Isla Eckinger & Tony Inzalaco - Birds Of Underground (1972), feat. Heinz Sauer, Gerd Dudek, Buschi Niebergall & Peter Giger =================================================================================================== So I've been listening to the my 5 new discs from the Mangelsdorff Vol 1. box that got just about two weeks ago, and thought I'd chime in with some thoughts... "Zo-Ko-Ma" - Clearly a great album, but a more sparse and 'open sounding' than I was expecting. It'll grow on me more over time, but for now I'm just giving it a 4/5 stars. I do like it, but I was expecting something a little more 'dense' for lack of a better word -- or maybe less episodic. Still quite good, though. "Wild Goose" is just nuts - and NOT in an especially good way. Folk music meets free jazz, in a shotgun marriage. 2/5 stars, at best (I'm being charitable, many would say 1/5). This one may go in a box under the bed. "Never Let It End" - OMG, total 5/5 stars. Just fantastic! A little out there at times, but never more or father than I want to go. Almost as stunning as his earlier studio dates for CBS in the mid 60's. Can't say enough good things about this one. And the 10-minute title track is just sublime: "Never Let It End (Spanish Waltz For La Singla)". "Trombone Workshop" - what a fun date! I've spun this 3x since I got the whole box, and it's just a blast. A very solid 4/5 stars (which I was a little surprised at myself). "Birds Of Underground" - I haven't really heard this one yet, other than a short cursory spin (skipping around). Sounded good, but a little more 'out' than "Never Let It End". Jury's still out.

Just found a relatively cheap ($10) copy of Light Lines on vinyl over the weekend, and I'm diggin' the hell out of it. Not exactly 'inside' - but not too acerbic either. It's got a bit of that ECM sheen to it, but in this case, I think it helps the other-worldly aspects of it go down a little more easily (for instance, I had it on with Mrs. Rooster around, and she wasn't too put off by it). Beautiful bass clarinet too. Very adventuresome, without being too in your face about it constantly. Very free, but not crazily so. Then some Googling around today, I found an 8-song concert playlist on YouTube, from 1977 -- and it's just as wonderful... NOTE: In case the above embedded YouTube video doesn't play the entire playlist, here's another link to it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuoCjto_axE&list=PL2QepMLlfwKqYYQi8V9pDrXP5rGDrxboO Or do a search on "Manfred Schoof Quintet - Konzert 1977" on YouTube, and that should bring it up. Gotta be an hour's worth of live footage. I have Schoof on a Mal Waldron date from around this same time, but I think that's all I've ever heard from him before (except embedded in a couple much larger ensemble things). And these three Schoof leader-dates for JAPO (which seems to be a sub-label for ECM) are just fantastic.

More I've been thinking about this album, I think it's the lack of clichéd playing I think I find the most refreshing about this odd trio date. The playing is a bit square, definitely - but it's also NOT filled with tons of predictable chord changes (though I'll grant that the changes that are there aren't necessarily the most exciting either). The guy obviously has some skills -- even if making stuff swing *isn't* foremost in his wheelhouse (or at least not yet - don't know about his later stuff - ?). Sure, I don't think the entire album really gels -- but there's a lot going on, and they're clearly trying hard to make it happen. And it was certainly worth the $12 I paid. [We'd put our names in at a restaurant about 5 blocks away, and thought we had 45 minutes to kill. I'd just walked into the record store, and not 5 minutes later my wife notices a missed call on her cell-phone that our table was open 20 minutes early). I'd only gotten through up to the G's in their jazz titles (A-Z), but they didn't have a listening station. But the guy at the counter was nice enough to put it on the house system for the first minute of each side, and I pretty much bought it sight-unseen. Meaning I never even looked at the vinyl, which was fortunally in Ex- condition, my guess.] So that's how I found something this obscure and bought it in barely 7-minutes flat. Like it had some homing beacon on it, or something.

That's actually one one of the things I like about it, or at least that makes it somewhat unique. It's not so much "out" as it is "in" but somewhere else "in" than where everyone else (was in). It's an intriguing album, at least.

Mrs. Rooster and I were in Raleigh, NC for a long weekend over Columbus Day last week -- and I found up a pretty obscure(?) 1964 piano trio date by a pianist I'd never heard of before: Friedrich Gulda. From Austria, Gulda was apparently primarily a classical pianist (or classical albums seem to be the greater bulk of his output), but seemingly also a somewhat free-leaning or at least open-minded jazz player as well. Rounding out his trio was Jimmy Rowser (bass), and none other than Albert Heath (drums). The album, simply called "Gulda Jazz" seems to have been recorded in Sao Paulo. The album I found is simply called "Gulda Jazz" - and the particular issue I found is a 1977 reissue from the Musical Heritage Society. Here’s a YouTube upload of the entire album. Side one is just one 20-minute tune ("Suite 1962") -- with 4 other tunes on side two (which seem to be ordered differently, depending on which release you happen to have - ?!) It's maybe 75% of the sort of thing that the Valdo Williams date is for Savoy, or (the 'legendary') Hasaan Ibn Ali with Max Roach (though the writing on both the Valdo and Hasaan dates is stronger). But the approach isn't entirely dissimilar. Or maybe some of the more (slightly) out-leaning *bonus material* from the Denny Zeilin Columbia Trio Mosaic Select might be another comparison (not quite, but within the realm). Anyone else dig this? Or have any other Friedrich Guilda jazz sides to recommend? Embedded YouTube video right here, with album images from Discogs below that. My copy is the B&W cover from Musical Heritage (MHS), at the very bottom.

Surely what you passed on for that price, had to have been on LP, and not CD - correct?

My copy set me back $50 + a couple bux postage about 2 years ago. I've had an auto-eBay search set up for it (on CD) for 6+ years, since I first learned (in about 2012) that it'd come out on CD in 2010. I think that 2010 Japanese issue is the only individual CD issue of this title (ever). But it was impossible to find even back in 2012 (and I never did get one until like 2016). From my auto-eBay search (which I never turned off even after I finally got it), it seems to come up 1-3 times a year, on eBay -- but more often than not with some crazy minimum (of $70-$80 or more). I've only seen it go on eBay for less than $55 maybe 3 times in all these years: when I got it for $50, and the other times were in the range of $45-$55, iirc. The Young, Hill (big box), and Sam Rivers Mosaics are the only Mosaics that I already owned (on CD), but was still determined to find all the individual titles on CD as well -- and Heaven on Earth was definitely the toughest one to find as a separate CD.

Of all the 14 versions on Discogs (in every format), this seems to be the only one with that cover (released in the UK in 1969): https://www.discogs.com/Thad-Jones-Mel-Lewis-Jazz-Orchestra-Central-Park-North/release/4641509

Aha, that's news I can use!! Thank you!!

An old question, but I'm wondering this too. Cursory glance at Discogs says "no" -- is that right? https://www.discogs.com/Thad-Jones-Mel-Lewis-Jazz-Orchestra-Monday-Night/release/3224759

Just got this set in the mail last night. Enjoying discs 1 & 2 today, for the very first time (I've had Stockholm on CD since back in 1991, but Paris and Copenhagen are totally new to me). Skimmed a whole bunch of reviews on my phone, during my commute this morning, and several mentioned that Wynton Kelly is really a surprise standout on some of these recordings (and I have to agree). It'll be interesting to see if my impression of Miles' playing is different by the the 5th or 10th times I spin the Paris and Copenhagen sets. On first spin, though, I'm left still thinking that Miles really delivered much stronger on the next European tour (with Sonny Stitt, in the Fall of 1960, iirc), at least from the Stockholm sets (with Stitt) that we all know. That said, I'm listening again, and Miles does play better on the second Paris set (than the first), so that's good. I'm not totally down with Trane's experiments, but neither are they totally off-putting either. After 30 years, I've *still* never gotten bitten super hard by Trane's playing, but maybe eventually I'll succumb. Not that my tastes are super conservative, but I've just never gotten super fanatical about Trane, the way I have 2-3 dozen other players (not all sax). Next I need to spend some time with the liners, which I've barely skimmed 20% of. Many thanks to a board member who just hooked me up with his copy. PS: I'm REALLY digging the Copenhagen set. One review I read said that they had to move mountains to find the tapes (tape) for it, and only got it at the 11th hour. But for my money -- again, this is just based on ONE spin of the first 2 discs -- but for my money, *Copenhagen* may be the most cohesive 'set' of the entire bunch. Like the whole band seemed more on the same wavelength (or more so than Paris, or Stockholm). PPS: Ok, second time through the 2nd disc, and that Paris material (the second disc) is really clicking more for me this time.

Forgot about that one. He also covered the Woody Woodpecker theme too (which I hadn't forgotten!) -- also on Muse, iirc.

To say nothing of Cannonball's brother's nut.

I only have had one experience with a pro CD buffer type machine (at a game store), but it worked like a charm. I found a super-rare Stewart Copeland CD (drummer for the Police), that looked like it had sat on the side of the road for about 2 years, blowing around in the wind and elements. Scratched all to hell. Normally $100, I got it (even beat all to hell) for $12. Took it across the street, and the kid in the gamer store took pity on me and didn't even charge me the $3-$4 they charged to buff CD's -- and it came out looking stone mint, like a brand new CD. Wish I knew a place here in DC that had that kind of service. Not that I have a lot of discs needing it, but I'm sure I have a dozen or so that I wouldn't mind getting buffed (out of 5,000)

I'm pretty certain that the Tokyo reverb is inherent in the recording (and/or a byproduct of the venue where it was recorded). I can't imagine that it was added later, artificially. I suppose it's possible, but unfathomable.

I've had that Bremen '83 show on CD-R for a dozen years, and it sounds phenomenal. You could release the copy I've had all this time, bit-for-bit, and there would be few if any complaints. One of the best, and best-sounding Woody live documents I've ever heard, in over 20 years. Noticeably better than most (all?) of the Highnote releases (vols 1-4), for instance. SQ should be top drawer.

I guess I should have been clearer to say a *live* version, which is would have made it more unique - more so than being a quartet only. (Was only on mobile all day earlier (on the train), and I'd forgotten "BN" was quartet only on PTTP originally.)

Would that then be a rare quartet(!?) version specifically of "Black Narcissus"? (I'm not immediately recalling a released performance of that tune by Joe specifically in a quartet-only config.) Tempting!!

Track listing and timings seem to be visible (in English) towards the bottom of this page: https://diskunion.net/portal/ct/detail/1007761689