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First and foremost, by all means (and with all due haste) get the Tentet album -- and if you do CD's, get the CD reissue with the 3 bonus tracks from his Word from Bird album. Those specific 3 tracks from Word from Bird are substantially more similar to the entire Tentet album, than the other half of Word from Bird. Some of the most unique and amazing music of its kind I can think of. I don't know enough of the rest of Charles' other output to really comment, other than (from what I gather) it's not as compositionally-complex (or the arrangements aren't as elaborate) as that Tentet +3 material is. (But I'd LOVE to be proven otherwise, if there's other stuff by Teddy that I'm overlooking, because I just don't know it.)

I'm excited about this release, but cautiously so. It'll all be streamable in short order (release day, probably). I'm at the point where, whenever possible, I try and fully-sample (i.e. listen to things either in their entirety, or at least more than half a release) anything before I buy it. Part of it is monetary, but it's also a question of space too (I've easily got 500 more CD's than I really have space for at the moment). Some things, clearly (like with Woody Shaw) are instant buys for me -- but it's been at least 5 years since I pulled out my Elvin Mosaic. I've got it on now, actually -- I listened to the Prime Element session with Lee this morning, and I'm on to disc #5 and #6 now (the 'weird' albums). There's definitely a better than 50/50 chance I'll get this new live Elvin thing, but it's probably not better than 65/35. It's not gonna go out of print overnight, and I can easily spin it a few times off YouTube or from Pandora before I make a decision. BTW, I still don't do (or buy) downloads much -- so, yes, space is a consideration. But that also helps keep me from amassing so much music that I'll never listen to 90% of it more than 5 times each (or less) over the next 20 years.

I have the Elvin Jones Mosaic, but I might pick up the new (first CD) reissue of Prime Element, in case I ever decide to sell the Mosaic. The 1969 session with Lee Morgan is one I wouldn’t want to be without. I do like the rest of the Elvin Box (even those last few, kinda squirrelly studio dates on discs #5 & #6) — but I could probably survive with just a subset of it.

Just down the road from us here in DC. Never new Kloss was on Mr. Rogers, until this very moment…

FWIW, Dusty does seem to be accepting pre-orders on this… https://www.dustygroove.com/item/126541 But then so does Amazon… Revival: Live at Pookie's Pub https://a.co/d/dVHfPme

Don’t derail a thread?? I’m sorry, but that’s not what we do around here!

Back around 2002, EIGHT or TEN times (the entire production run -- every performance over two weekends, including two performances on the Saturdays) -- I had the good fortune of seeing a ballet production of Hindemith's The Four Tempraments (wiki) -- commissioned by Balanchine, and scored for piano and strings (it's practically a piano concerto, except for the lack of solo cadenzas). Why the hell did I see every performance? -- you're asking. Well, it was on a double-bill with a staged ballet of Carmina Burana that I sang in the chorus for back in KC with the Kansas City Ballet and the KC Symphony (and the Hindemith was the first act). And for the entire run, I never missed watching the Hindemith from out in the audience. The music was wonderful, of course, but so was the choreography. My mom was a dancer back in her college years, and in her ideal world, she would have been a professional dancer of some sort (she loved modern dance, and tap). IIRC, she had the fortune to interact with Merce Cunningham once or twice a couple times the university she went to brought him in to work with students (University of Illinois), and she also got to dance to the music of Harry Partch performed by an ensemble with Harry overseeing the proceedings somehow (not sure if 'conducting' is the right term). Anyway, my mom always loved Balanchine, and I remember him being the only choreographer she mentioned by name very often (other than Cunningham). Over the years, my wife and I have tried to attend every work we happen to find in the arts section, that specially pairs Balanchine with works by modern, 20th century composers. I should have kept a list, but I know we've seen half-a-dozen l wonderful Stravinsky works (and not just the usual suspects). ALSO, as I was about to try and post this yesterday, I pulled up Four Temperaments on my phone briefly to include in the post (a YouTube clip), and started to play just a little of it, wondering if my wife would recognize it (she really loves the music). And I'll be damn, she nailed it barely 20-seconds in, and she said "Hey, is that Hindemith?" -- and 5 seconds later she said "Four Tempraments?!!" And this is WELL before any of the piano part comes in. Like I'm really not entirely sure *I* could have ID'd it that quickly myself!! Like I said, she really loves that piece -- but I'm sure it's been 3+ years since we've played it on the stereo. I've tried to cue this up to the 84-second mark, so the music starts right away (we'll see if that works)... 4 TEMPERAMENTS (NYC Ballet 1964 Canadian filming) PS: My wife saw that production twice (back in 2002), iirc — and I think we’ve seen two other productions of The Four Temperaments since then too. The music is divine, and the choreography too!!

I’ve dithered about getting this one for years. Maybe one of these days. I should set up an eBay auto search, and get more serious about finding one cheap (or at least cheaper). I

That’s how I look when I play any of the mid-20 opus numbered chamber works with winds by Schoenberg on the Hi-Fi — Wind Quintet (26), Serenade (24), and Suite (29). Half serious, at least in mind and spirit!

Pete Townshend(!!) knows EXACTLY what you're talkin' about, Jim. EXACTLY. Don't believe me? Check this... Pete's band in 1985, playing "Walking" of all things... But look for Pete throughout -- starting around 1:05, but periodically the camera is on him every 45 seconds, give or take. THAT motherfucker does dance, or at least he did in 1985, the whole fucking song. TOTAL COMFORT IN MIND AND BODY, just as you said...

RIP, genuinely. But I have to confess, sometime over the last 10-15 years (or at some point, at least), I must have literally completely forgotten all about him. I don’t think I’ve ever owned anything by him either, far as I’m remembering. I’m sure I was vaguely aware of him 20+ years ago, but what (specifically) I thought of him back when I was in college and thru the 90’s — I have absolutely no idea, or any specific memory whatsoever.

Walt Dickerson. On acid?

Just got an email from Mark’s publisher, and they’re offering a 40% discount on seemingly all their offerings… Our annual Fall Sale is here! From 9/12 to 9/30, get 40% off all titles. Plus get free shipping after the purchase of four books or more. Use the discount code UMSEPT22 to enjoy this deal. Happy reading! https://www.press.umich.edu/ And here’s Mark’s wonderful book! https://www.press.umich.edu/4454129/jazz_from_detroit

The only title from this set I’m missing is The Body & The Soul, his second Impulse date. Hasn’t been an urgency to get for the last 20 years, but maybe I’ll run across a cheap used CD of it sometime (or the two-fer that pairs both his Impulse dates — can’t remember if they both fit on one CD, or if that’s a 2cd two-fer).

More new info here… https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/blue-note-elvin-jones-revival-pookies-pub/ …and this seems to be the exact same copy (just a different link)… https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/blue-note-set-november-release-125209909.html

Yeah, hard to imagine me not getting this at some point too. (Not urgently, but I’m sure I can’t resist it for too long.)

The (separate) sessions specifically with Tolliver and Goykovich weren’t ever released before — and I would dearly love to have to have them on legit CD’s (I do have burns of them, but that’s not the same).

https://store.bluenote.com/products/elvin-jones-revival-live-at-pookie-s-pub includes track listing

First ‘single’ — all 20+ minutes worth. Damn!!

How many discs do we think the Sonny Clark will have? I think I have about half his BN leader-dates, but I haven’t done my homework to work out what I’m missing (FWIW, I have 3 or 4 discs, iirc).

Looks a little like the facial expression Billy Crystal uses when he does his Muhammad Ali.

9 of the 10 here — I’m missing one of the two Impulses.

And “Black Drops” is damn near as good too (I go back and forth about which one of the two I like better).

The only Dylan album I have is Oh Mercy from 1989 (plus a promo-single of a song, “Series of Dreams” from the same sessions, that really ought to have been on the album too) — and it’s a lovely album I enjoy a lot. But I never got bitten by the Dylan but. I did own a (free promo) copy of the very first Bootleg Series Vol 1 set — that I got back in college, but never kept. It gave me some insight as to why Bob is so important — but I still didn’t feel the urge to get lots more. That said, I’ve toyed with getting a couple more of his from the 90’s.

Never hurts to ask. There’s also this, fwiw: https://lostmediawiki.com/Jazz_Goes_to_College_(partially_found_BBC_jazz_concert_series;_1966-1967) also this… https://missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/2633/jazz-goes-college and this… https://londonjazznews.com/2016/11/07/feature-ghosts-and-spirits-remembering-albert-ayler-at-the-london-school-of-economics-in-november-1966/?amp=1 this too… https://www.theguardian.com/friday_review/story/0,3605,401760,00.html