Rooster_Ties

My take is that it's just the nature of the Internet. Here's an example (typical?? - you tell me), of a board that's not music-related. Generally a lot more cantankerous than we are, depending on what's going on in the world. But nowhere near as crazy as some others, probably. Helps they often have more than 500 people viewing the board at a time. ("Most users ever online was 1028, March 2, 2003 at 08:13 PM." -- ) Topics fly off the first page of "Today's Active Topics" in a matter of minutes sometimes. http://www.iidb.org/vbb/index.php Something to look forward to around here, when the band really takes off!!!!

"Somewhere Else" (shown above) is made up of "outtakes" (extra material) from the sessions that producted Ra's two A&M albums from the late 80's ("Blue Delight" and "Purple Night") BUT, as much as I generally like "Blue Delight" and "Purple Night" (and a few cuts from each are really outstanding), SOMEHOW, "Somewhere Else" tops 'em both, at least in my book. ( ) (Includes some really outstanding work from Don Cherry as well.)

Sounds interesting to me. In round figures, Chuck, what do you think it take to get this project off the ground??

Why Chuck, I do believe that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me. Or wait, maybe not...

Another board I read occasionally (for Classical Music discussion), though I don't post there all that much. A bit like this place (same software, probably different version though). Check it out... http://www.classicalmusicguide.com How often do board like ours get hacked?? I know, it all depends on how good a board's defenses are. Doesn't suprise me at all that this Classical board got hacked. Every three or four months they would literally close down the entire main discussion forum, lock it, and open a brand new one. From what I understand, the performance of their board would grind to a halt every 6 to 9 months if they didn't create a brand new forum more frequently than that, and close the old one. Searches used to take upwards of 3-5 minutes sometimes, and posting would take a full minute or two too. (Obviously they didn't have the technical know-how to run the place -- not that I do either, but I don't run a board either.) And they probably also didn't have the know-how to set up many (or any) defences for their board either, it would seem. Just got a dozen e-mails from the hacker too just now (which is how I first realized this happened). I guess the board is now called "HACKED BY ACHILLES" (instead of "THE CLASSICAL MUSIC GUIDE")...

I was gonna say the Ronnie Boykins too. Not totally off the wall (not that there's anything wrong with that).

You know, I'm just betting the name “Michael Fitzgerald” is some sort of pseudonym. Your real name, Mike, is probably something like Chutney McFlypants.

I agree. Better to have been a PM.

Dare I ask (Chuck) who the trumpet player was on this date?? Though I realize that there are much bigger fish here to fry, than clearing up a discographical uncertainty. (FWIW, I did not download the date, so I'm only asking out of wild curiosity.)

That'd be my problem too. Most of the regulars around here know me by name (or at least my first name). And many of us have even posted pictures of ourselves on the board too. I've had the "Rooster_Ties" handle for close to 5 years now, and it seems kinda silly to change it now, after all these years. Like Jeff said, then nobody would know who I was!!

Gesundheit!!

Have Jazz Kat call her. Be a good learning experience.

Hmm.... Really?? Hadn't ever noticed that before. Interesting. Hmm....

That was just cuz he was tired of you trying to call the entire set.

The Stitt concert sounds like it occurred ten years before the Coltrane concert. Yes and no. When you just compare Trane with Stitt, probably yes. But I think Miles' playing is more advanced on the 2nd date (meaning the one with Stitt). Or at least that's my memory of it -- been at least six months since I've listened to any of this material. Hafta try to dig it out soon.

Might maybe be interested in #7, but I'm about 1 minute from needing to be out the door. I'll check into it later tonight. (Or if anybody else wants it between now and then, don't consider it on hold for me -- let 'em have it.)

Congrats!!! Any chance you could have b3-er host a 30-second sample of each side?? (Assuming you can run your turntable through your PC, etc...) We'd all love to hear some of this thing too!!

I couldn't finish Finnish. It's a language for cunning linguists. Yeah, but you could always become an expert BBQ-ist. You know, a master baster.

Looks like that wasn't his only World Pacific album... CRAIG HUNDLEY TRIO + ORCHESTRA Craig Hundley Plays With The Big Boys (World Pacific) Now it's Hundley's mug hogging the cover. The trio, with Stuffy McKinney replacing Jay Jay. On this album, with accompanyment from an orchestra, Craig Hundley sounds more polished, with help from arrangements by Don Sebesky. His classical training is more evident on this one, but the selection of songs show not only his training but his personal musical tastes, including a bossa nova-ish rendition of The Beatles' "Martha My Dear". In the songs with big band arrangements, you will hear the drumming of Paul Humphries. The selections sound more "pop" oriented than those on Arrival Of A Young Giant, but it's still a great album. SOURCE (scroll down a bit)

Yup, that's the one... CRAIG HUNDLEY TRIO Arrival Of A Young Giant (World Pacific) This was interesting, a young trio of teenage boys, two in Nehru jackets, on World Pacific. Was this the future of jazz to come? According to the liner notes, Craig Hundley was classically trained and made use of his talents by appearing on a number of television shows during the late 1960's. He was also a child actor, apparently appearing on Lassie and The Flying Nun. But at the age of 14, he already had a group and they were picked up by World Pacific to record the first album. Craig Hundley (piano), Jay Jay Wiggins (bass; son of pianist Gerald Wiggins), and Gary Chase (drummer) do not sound like a bunch of 14 year olds (or 12 years old in the case of bassist Jay Jay), in fact these guys sound more mature than a lot of rock bands of the time. Not only is Hundley's piano playing extraordinary, but he also gets into different time signatures not unlike Don Ellis. How many 14 year old kids today know anything about performing in 11/4 and 7/4? Keep in mind that I'm not a piano player, so an expert can probably tell you that Herbie Hancock or Dave Brubeck are far better than Hundley, but this is a 14 year old playing jazz like an old man, with 12 year old Jay Jay playing bass as if he's Ron Carter or Jimmy Garrison. If there is any reason to keep music in schools, this is it. SOURCE (scroll down a bit)

Was just thumbing through a mess of jazz LP's in a store the other day, and ran across an album (on Pacific Jazz maybe?? - make that World Pacific), that was a piano trio made up of all teens, probably all ages 15-16, maybe 17 or 18 at the very most (heck, one could have been as young as 14 maybe). The piano player was the leader on the date, and according to the liner notes -- was some kind of child actor (forget what he'd been in, some TV show probably). He was White, and so was the drummer. Bass player was Black (with a medium-size 'fro B-) ). All kids, mind you. Who was it, and how is it?? I have no intention of buying it, but was curious about the back-story here. Was he really good enough to get a recording date?? Or was this a simple attempt to cash in on the kid's name as a child actor?? Some of both?? Anybody got a pic of the cover handy?? Any of them go on to bigger and better things, musically?? Edit: The LP was from the mid-to-late 60's. 1967 or '68, if I remember right.

You know, on second thought, the weird thing about this date isn't Green + Gilmore. It's John Gilmore + Duke Pearson. The idea of those two "clicking" on this (or any) date does take some imagination. Not saying it couldn't ever have happened, but Pearson was such an "inside" player, and Gilmore was rarely ever that "inside". (I'm not trying to denigrate Duke Pearson's playing either. I'm just saying I think they coulda been like oil and water.)

I have the Dragon 4CD set, and agree that Trane really goes for broke on nearly every cut. But in some ways, I almost prefer the later concert with Stitt, if only because Miles really had to step up to the plate more, given Trane's absence. I find Miles to be playing harder and more aggressively on the date with Stitt, where he lays back a bit on the earlier date with Trane (since Trane is all fireworks). Both are outstanding concerts, though, highly recommended.