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Had to look this one up - as it was a cover I had never seen before. Here 't is... Just picked up a used copy of this CD today. Haven't listened to quite all of it yet, but what I've heard -- I like!! EDIT: Listened to the whole thing in the car, while driving around town to various appointments. Great disc. Always good to have some more Lee that I didn't have previously.

Hey, any chance we could get a new rolleyes.gif smilie?? --> I can't tell you how many times I've seen people around here use it (I think by mistake), when they really probably intended just to pick a "smiling" smilie. In fact, looking over to my left right now -- as I'm typing this -- for some reason none of the smilies are currently animated (not "animat-ing"), and as a result, the "rolleyes" one looks like a regular smile with the eyes wide, wide open. So, with that in mind, I have this suggestion... Take away the "smile" part, and make the mouth go straight acorss, just like the mouth on this smilie ---> Oh, that, and we need more threads about Kerry's war record. Can we please do something about that too.

There are many, many videos floating around of Miles concerts, from every year after his comeback, including 1982. I have a bunch from later in the 80's (that I got years ago, when I was in college around 1990), but remember seeing listed two or three full-length concerts on the "trade lists" of others, from every year in the 80's, including the early 80's. The answer you seek is out there, for sure.

I'm not sure this is what you're looking for (and perhaps it isn't), but allow me to wholeheartedly recommend the single most interesting jazz bio I've read in years, and that's John Szwed's recent book "So What: The Life of Miles Davis" -- one of the best written books of any kind, that I've ever read. Though I certainly liked Szwed's bio of Sun Ra as well (and not just cuz my name appears in the “thanks” section in the intro B-) ), I don't remember it being as engaging as the Miles book. Having recently re-read his bio of Miles, I'm eager to revisit the Sun Ra book sometime soon. Side question: Has anybody read Szwed's recent general jazz guide/book: "Jazz 101: A Complete Guide to Learning and Loving Jazz"?? Any thoughts??

If she even half-likes the Ornette, then marry her!!

Wrongfully convicted man free after 40 years behind bars Friday, August 20, 2004 Posted: 11:45 AM EDT (1545 GMT) LUFKIN, Texas (AP) -- A 76-year-old man who spent nearly every day of the last four decades in prison walked free after a judge found that deputies extracted his confession to a 1962 robbery by crushing his fingers between cell bars. After walking out of the Angelina County jail Tuesday with his wife, Robert Carroll Coney said he was not bitter. "I'm going to try to pick up the pieces," Coney said. "If I was angry, what could I do about it?" Coney was convicted of robbing a Safeway supermarket in 1962 and sentenced to life in prison. Many times he escaped from facilities in other states -- including South Carolina, Louisiana and Mississippi -- only to be recaptured each time. He was returned to the Texas prison system last year. Coney said his identity had been confused with a man he had carpooled with through Lufkin on the day of the robbery. State District Judge David Wilson, who dismissed Coney's charges, investigated and found that the sheriff of Angelina County at the time and his deputies used physical force to extract confessions, often crushing prisoners' fingers between jail cell bars. When Wilson questioned Coney, the prisoner held up two twisted and bent fingers. "I remember the sheriff well," Coney said. He said the jailers, in addition to mangling his hand, threatened his life and scared him into confessing. Wilson's findings stated Coney probably did not see a lawyer until he stood before a judge in the case with then-court-appointed lawyer Gilbert Spring. Spring said he didn't remember Coney's case and told Wilson that courts frequently called attorneys in the 1960s to stand with defendants for no money. "It really contains everybody's worst fears about what went on during certain darker years in this country," said Huntsville attorney David P. O'Neill, who worked on Coney's case. Coney said he may consider a civil suit at some point but initially wants to focus on his family. Holding his wife's hand as he left the jail Tuesday for their Dallas home, Coney said little about the ordeal. "We're going home," Coney said.

Funny, I'm usually the one around here with big, gaping holes in my collection for older music. (Over 95% of my collection was recorded after 1960.) But "Birth of the Cool" is one that's always worked for me. It's not about the soloing, it's about the texture!! B-) I was a Miles junkie when I first started with jazz, and I still am to some extent. I have all the Columbia boxes, and plenty of boots from the late 60's, but currently I don't own anything he did before be joined with Columbia ----- EXCEPT for Birth of the Cool, which I've always had -- and actually pull out to listen to two or three times a year. (I used to own the Miles box on Prestige, but sold it several years ago, cuz I just never found it all that satisfying.) So count me in the pro-BOTC camp.

As everyone knows, I was a BNBB refugee, and I joined relatively late in the game (member #171, and I joined a full 6 days after "day #1"). First I went to a couple other places... First to some board based on the Harlem Renaissance (??? -- does that ring any bells with anybody?). Needless to say the "Harlem Renaissance" board never did attract enough BNBB-ers to even drive 10 posts a day, as I recall. Then I found AAJ, but that never seemed right either, with the bashing we were starting to take over there from day #1 ("damn Blue Note people, go away!!!"). I think I saw on AAJ that something was happening at some board with the funny-sounding name that I couldn’t hardly spell ( ) --- and then when I saw that both Sangry and Chuck had up camp over here --- I said, this be the place for me!!!!

Howdy all, My Dad has about 50 reels of silent home-movies from the 30's and 40's (back when he was a kid!! -- he'll be 80 in about 2 years), which my cousin just had transferred to DVD. So, my Dad is looking for a good, but inexpensive DVD player, and I said I'd get back to him by the end of the month with a couple suggestions. He's gonna probably be hooking into the inputs (RCA-type phono-jack) on the back of his existing VCR, for both video and audio (and it's an old mono-VCR, for what it's worth), which is already hooked up to his TV. We're really talking low-tech here. (And his TV is mono too, I think.) I'd like to suggest a relatively inexpensive unit, with as few bells and whistles as possible --- but the key is that it's gotta be reliable. My Dad goes ballistic when stuff doesn't work, and he's one of those guys who thinks that everything should last forever. (He uses a toaster that’s 40 years old, if that tells you anything.) So, what brands are super-ultra-reliable??? Brands that make/sell entry-level units that are dirt-simple. Maybe a better question... Are any of the dirt-simple ones reliable??? (I'd like to find something for him that's less than $75, if at all possible.) Thanks!!! PS: My first thought for cheap, but reliable, was maybe to go with a low-end Panasonic model. I've had pretty good luck with their low-end (and medium-end) bookshelf CD systems, etc...

Haven't heard this one in at least 10 years. (A friend of mine had it back in my college days.) Re-Birth of the Cool --- Gerry Mulligan How has this held up since it's release in '91?? I remember enjoying it some, but it was also somehow too "nice", maybe too "clean" or "perfect sounding" in it's approach. (Can't remember if that was just in how it was recorded (being GRP and all), or in the performances too.)

OK, what are your favorite recordings of tunes that originally (or most prominently) appeared on BN recordings from the 1960's?? Yes, I'm limiting this thread to the 60's, because let's face it, that's the decade where the tunes -- the compositions that help define the label -- where they nearly all come from. And in particular, it'd be good to hear about examples of two things (though this thread isn't just limited to these two categories)... 1. Other recordings also made in the 60's (on other labels), of tunes primarily associated with Blue Note. (Often this happened when a BN guy guested on somebody else's non-BN date as a sideman.) 2. More recent albums/CD's with remakes of multiple tunes primarily associated with BN. (Be they single-artist tribute albums (like to Herbie, or Wayne, or Lee Morgan, etc...), or albums that include two or more BN-centric tunes originally by different artists.) Here's one that fits the bill pretty well... Uri Caine's second album as a leader, "Toys" (JMT, 1996), includes versions of several Herbie tunes from the 60's: "The Prisoner", "Dolphin Dance", "Toys", and "Cantaloupe Island". (And for me, "The Prisoner" is particularly interesting here -- in that it is covered much less frequently than many of Herbie's other tunes from the 60's.) What others are your favorites??

I've always been struck immediately when I hear a non-"Birth of the Cool" version of a tune originally from "Birth of the Cool" (or at least that's were I personally associate all those tunes -- cuz that's where I heard all of them for the first time). Two of my favorites happen to be from Blue Note titles, and are of the same tune, Denzil Best's Move. 1. The version from Art Taylor's "A.T.'s Delight", with Dave Burns (tp), Stanley Turrentine, Wynton Kelly, Paul Chambers, Taylor, and "Potato" Valdez on conga. The conga part, in particular, in duet with trumpet (and nothing else), really works well for me --- in spicing up this tune in a pretty darn exciting way (especially for 1960). 2. And Lou Donandson's version from "Blues Walk" (in 1958), also with congas (oddly enough). Just for reference (for this thread), the tunes from Birth of the Cool are... 1 Move 2:32 (Denzil Best) 2 Jeru 3:10 (Gerry Mulligan) 3 Moon Dreams 3:18 (C. MacGregor-J. Mercer) 4 Venus De Milo 3:10 (Gerry Mulligan) 5 Budo 2:31 (B. Powell-M. Davis) 6 Deception 2:46 (Miles Davis) 7 Godchild 3:08 (George Wallington) 8 Boplicity 2:58 ("Cleo Henry") 9 Rocker 3:04 (Gerry Mulligan) 10 Israel 2:15 (John Carisi) 11 Rouge 3:13 (John Lewis) 12 Darn That Dream 3:24 (E. De Lange-J. Van Heusen) What are your favorite versions of these tunes?? Any with particularly interesting arrangements and/or instrumentation?? And by "interesting", I might be even inclined to include even piano-trio versions, since the "originals" (or at least the "Birth of the Cool" originals), which were certainly not what you'd call piano-centric.

Word!!!

Hey Connie, Is that extra copy of Jacknife still available?? I've got the Mosaic, but wouldn't mind having the Conn of this one too. I'll PM you too... -- Tom

Oh man, I love half.com, and will be sorry to see it go. I've probably bought 30 discs over the last two or three years from them.

Hi gang. I'm back!! Actually, my PC got back up and running late last week, and I've been just 'lurking' every now and then, since then... ...a self-imposed ban on myself being on the board, until I got a long-overdue package in the mail to Couw, to whom I've owed some CD's from a trade we set up a long, long, long time ago. Couw, that package went in the mail to you this afternoon (at 4:30pm), and I spent the extra $$$ to sent it to you air-mail (4-7 days), vs. ground (4-6 weeks). I figured I took so damn long to get this in the mail to you, that I'd better spring for the extra postage to get it to you more quickly. I know that doesn't even begin to make up for how long I took to fulfill my part of our trade, but I figured it wouldn't hurt any to try to get it to you more quickly. Couw, please let me know when it arrives, and hopefully the 16 discs (total), most of which are CDR's of either OOP material, and/or live concerts that were never commercially available, will help to make up for the time it took me to get my shit together and get all those discs sent off to you.

How are the bonus tracks??? Are both Tolliver and Joe Henderson on both of the bonus tracks??

So, then does that mean the original album was called "Gemini II", but the resissue is only called "Gemini"??? --- and they're really the same recording??? Lazaro, I assume the copy your quoting from is a promo of one of the new CD's of this release??? (Since you list the catalog number as being "TRCD 4004", the "CD" part makes me think it's a CD (funny how I'd get that idea).) Also from the way it refers to the rerelease of something.) In any case, it still sounds like the rerelease (the CD release) is called "Gemini", but the original album was called "Gemini II" ---- and that the two are in fact the same 1974 recording. Or am I missing something here????

And for god's sake, try harder than these guys...

Wait, Late. I think these are one in the same. From http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/news.htm... So, all these references to "Gemini" - are one in the same with "Gemini II"???? Yes??? No??? I don't think I'm confused, but should I be???

Hot damn!!! -- Dusty Groove says this is gonna be reissued on CD (and also on LP) later this month!!! Don't know for sure what label is doing the reissue, though (and they don't seem to know either). Nothing listed at Jazzmatazz yet, but I e-mailed Alan about it. 1. Marcus Belgrave -- Gemini II . . . CD . . . Upcoming Release: Around July 26, 2004 A classic of the spiritual soulful Detroit/Tribe jazz scene! Trumpeter Marcus Belgrave plays in a beautiful ensemble, packed with Tribe labelmates like Wendell Harrison, Phil Ranelin, and Harold McKinney. The record includes Belgrave's beautiful track "Space Odyssey", which has a long flowing cosmic groove, nice electronics, and haunting trumpet solos. Other cuts include "Gemini II", "Marcia's Opal", "Glue Fingers", and "Odoms Cave". FYI, Dusty Groove has it listed as being just "Gemini". (I added the "II" to the above listing, assuming that is the correct full title.)

I have the Hill Mosaic, but I bought the new RVG for the new liner-notes, and also because I'm a confirmed Andrew Hill nut (and I was also curious about the sound quality improvement, though I didn't expect it to be all that much better). I normally don't buy all the RVG issues of titles I already have Mosaics for, but there are exceptions -- and this was one of them.

You know, I was really late getting to 'The Smiths' party. I went off to college in the fall of 1987, and probably heard some Smiths, here and there, but I never even really became aware of the band until much later -- like around 1991, 92, or 93 (when I worked as a DJ on a local top-40 FM station). Then, a couple years later, I borrowed some Smiths CD's from a friend (this would have been around 1995), and it was only then that I got hooked. But actually, oddly enough, I was already well aware of Johnny Marr, having heard him on a couple albums by the supergroup "Electronic" -- with Marr on guitar, and Bernard Sumner on vocals (from New Order), plus Neil Tennant (of The Pet Shop Boys) on vocals on at least a few "Electronic" singles.

I see "Black Fire" as kind of being the ultimate Andrew Hill album. It's incredibly progressive, with some of Andrew's strongest tunes. But it's still a pretty accessible album too. Thus, it's an excellent choice for the RVG series. In fact, I've always liked "Black Fire" more than "Point of Departure", which (for right or wrong), has always been the Hill disc most widely heard (or at least in the CD era). I often don't upgrade my McMasters to RVG's, but I definitely ran out and got "Black Fire" -- for the new linernotes, and for having the alternate takes at the end of the disc. I've already got the Mosaic, but for key artists, like Hill, I usually get the singles too, particularly when they available cheaply, like in the RVG series.

Picked up a couple things fairly cheap (but only when you take into account both the 15% discount, plus 'free shipping') ---- just a recent BN Conn ("Sonic Boom"), and an OJC (Charles Earland's "Intensity"). But, in particular, I've been looking for Phil Grenadier's "Playful Intentions" (on Fresh Sound New Talent), for a price that wasn't too ugly. Buying direct from Freshsound's website means mega-expensive shipping charges, so getting it for $12.75 (shipping included) from Tower was great!!