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If anybody sneaks a DAT into this concert, let me know -- I'd actually really like to hear it. Now whether I'd like to ever hear it a second time (ever!!) is entirely a different story!!

Yes, absolutely - totally fake. Here's the thread where it came from: CLICK HERE

SOURCE JOE HENDERSON AND KIKUCHI, HINO IN CONCERT PHILIPS/Nippon Phonogram Recorded Aug/5/1971 at Tokyo Toshi Center Hall,Tokyo (Live) [personnel] Joe Henderson(ts),Masabumi Kikuchi(p,elp),Terumasa Hino(tp),Kousuke Mine(ss, as), Yoshio Suzuki(ba),Hiroshi Murakami(ds),Yoshiyuki Murakami(ds) [track list] 1.SUNRISE IN TOKYO(J.Henderson) 2.SO WHAT(Miles Davis) 3.GET MAGIC AGAIN(M.Kikuchi) Anybody here ever heard this???

Shit, never even heard of this one. What tunes are on it?? Anybody here ever heard it before?? from the eBay listing... Joe Henderson and Kikuchi and Hino "In Concert" Fontana PAT-1064 Japanese only LP. Record- Near Mint or M- One little inaudible mark otherwise perfectly clean Cover- M- With OBI. No insert, back cover in Japanese. Recorded live in Japan in 1971 the day after the Milestone recording Joe Henderson in Japan was recorded. Features Terumasa Hino and other Japanese musicians. Incredible Joe Henderson.

Hell, all of the Tolliver's on Strata East are essential. ( But then y'all knew I was gonna say that in this thread eventually. Hey - I held out as long as I could!! ) Good thread, cuz other than the 4 Tollivers, "Glass Bead Games", and "Capra Black" (Billy Harper) --- I don't have any other Strata East titles. Here's a LINK to a listing of the entire Strata East catalog, to further the discussion.

Since this is in moderately bad taste, I'll post it here - instead of the main 'California Fires' thread... (Only funny if you recognize the guy in the hat.)

Sound samples HERE.

Just spotted this on eBay... STEVE COLEMAN DAVE HOLLAND phase-space CD A decent price on a moderately hard to find import. (The cheapest prices currently on half.com for this title are in the $18-$24 range, not including shipping.) All the usual disclaimers: I don't know the seller, the seller don't know me, the seller ain't me (and I ain't the seller), and I never done no business with the seller before -- you dig!! Great disc, with just Coleman and Holland as a duo. AMG Review. Barns & Noble wants $20 for it (plus shipping).

Well, for starters --- 90+% of the items I find on Gemm.com are really "Availability: SPECIAL ORDER (Not in stock)" items, where you know the 'seller' can't possibly fulfil the order. (Well, maybe once in a blue moon they can.) But my point is that I'm not about to start throwing my money (and/or credit card numbers) at on-line retailers who are attempting to sell things they can't actually get a hold of. That, and the prices are insane - or at least 98% of them are. So, I stopped looking on Gemm - well over a year ago. (That said, "Boogaloo" is a fantastic disc, and $11 is a decent price - good find!! ===== Edit: I guess I should say that 90+% of the really interesting items (like OOP titles, or imports) are "Special Order - Not In Stock" items. If one is looking for more mainstream stuff, than perhaps the "in stock" rate is a bit better. At least with eBay and Half.com, you're dealing with sellers that actually have the product (in hand) to sell you. Imgine what a pain in the ass eBay and half.com would be if you could list anything and everything that your distributor still has in their computer. Yikes!!!! Talk about a recipe for chaos!!!!!

I enjoy them (generally), but don't consider them essential - and I rarely listen to them twice in the same month (if that's any indication). Sorry, I can't speak to the individual albums - as they all blur together for me, pretty much. Frankly, in terms of Wilkerson's playing (specifically his playing), I like The Texas Twister better than any of his BN output... (Not the answer you were looking for, I realize - but hey, that's par for the course.) FYI, "Texas Twister" isn't a soul-jazz date, but is much more hard-boppish. Frankly, I often wish his BN output had more of the fire and edge of "Texas Twister".

What has this thread come to???

Well, I for one think what CNN and their laywers are doing to this poor guy... SUCKS!!!!!! ( )

Yes, a good idea for a thread. Hey, wasn't there another thread where everybody was too lazy to do whatever??? I'd do a search myself, and post a link to it here, but... ...well, you know.

Love the title of this thread.... "Fake story..., blown out of proportion"

And see the original page HERE Urban Legends and Folklore weighs in on the topic, and HERE is what the guy who wrote it now has to say...

Me too!!!

Speaking as someone who has railed against Wynton (especially), and a little against Burns too, somewhat (though his crime was not premeditated), I thing it would be good for everyone to remember a couple things... Wynton and Burns are neither as bad (or 'evil') as some people make them out to be (which even I have done on occasion, with Wynton anyway), nor are they as good as some others (and Wynton himself, especially) make them out to be. From what I saw of it, the Burns documentary was relatively good (or at worst "decent"), by and large. I didn't love it, and I could probably go on for pages about things that I personally found lacking in it. Still, warts and all, it was probably a good thing for jazz (especially in the long run), and a reasonable attempt to explain the music to a mainstream audience. Was the glass half full, or half empty??? ( And yes, I fully admit that I used the word "crime" in the first paragraph of this post, implying that what Wynton has done to jazz is "a crime". No, I really don't mean that literally. He's done some good things, and some bad things. But what I find most disappointing is that so much of what he's done for jazz (and/or against jazz), has been in service to promoting Wynton over promoting jazz. Not a crime against humanity, but something I certainly find lacking in the man. )

Two events - took a "jazz appreciation" class in college for the "easy A" - the professor (Scott Garlock) was a nice enough guy (for the most part), and reguardless, it was hard not to at least listen. I also had a part-time Disk Jockey gig at a top-40 radio station while I was in college -- and after 20 to 30 hours (per week) of forced exposure to "top-40" music from 1990-92, I got sick of 'pop' music in general, and also the "classic rock" that had previously been the focus of my musical interests. The combination of these two events hooked me. So, walking into my room in college, you were either going to hear Disintegration (by The Cure) - or - Kind of Blue and Nefertiti Rooster T.

There might have been a very small few Sun Ra albums in this category (all from the very late 70's), but they represent such a small percentage of his total output - I think these nearly qualify for this thread (in terms of a direction hinted at, but not really taken). (From 1978 and 1980, respectively) - Both of these albums feature electric bass (at least on several cuts each), and sometimes even an electric guitar (credited to one "Disco Kid" - ???) - and the overall vibe is decidedly more 'goovy' than anything Ra had recorded before, or after. One other Sun Ra release also fits this mold - a very obscure Saturn record called "On Jupiter" (from 1978) - best known for the all-out funky "U.F.O." (and I do mean funky).

This Lee Morgan album (his last studio date as leader), is quite unique in the Lee Morgan catalog. Would that were not the case, but alas - it was the beginning of a new direction for Lee – and sadly, one not fulfilled.

I finally found my CDR's of "Dance with Death" and the 2nd LP of "One for One" (the one that isn't on the Mosaic), and I gave them both a listen tonight. Which leads me to a prior post I made in this very thread... I am NOT going crazy!!!! Or at least you can't prove it by my thinking I had heard the tune "Cascade" (track #6 off "Passing Ships") from SOMEWHERE before. "Cascade" is the EXACT SAME TUNE as the last tune on SIDE 1 of the 2nd LP of "One For One". I can't tell what the name of the tune is - in it's version from "One For One" (or at least I can't be 100% sure of the name), but the line-up is: Andrew Hill p, Charles Tolliver tp, Pat Patrick as/fl/bs, Bennie Maupin fl/ts/bass cl, Ron Carter b, Ben Riley d (recorded in January of 1970 -- which is after the sessions for "Passing Ships"). I've only got a 'burn' of that 2nd LP of "One For One" - so I can't totally verify the name of the tune (and all my on-line resources to check on this are ambiguous, or at least there's conflicting info between different on-line discographies). But damn it, it is the EXACT same tune, and a mighty darn similar arrangement too!!!! - down to the riffs from various horns during (over) a couple of the solos. Man, I KNEW I knew that tune from somewhere!!!!!! ( And not a word about this in the liner-notes to "Passing Ships". For shame!!! ) PS: Come to think of it, I'm not even 100% sure it's the last tune on side 1 of the "One for One" 2nd LP. It's the last tune before any of the tunes with the string quartet -- which I'm assuming is where the break between side 1 and side 2 is. But I guess it could be the first tune on side 2. In any case, it's the 3rd tune when I listen to my burn of "One for One". In any case, can somebody that owns both "Passing Ships" and the actual "One for One" LP set verify the tune name, and also how darn similar they are??? Thanks!!!

Thanks for the "Super Andrew!!!!" Avatar, AB!!!!!!!